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Visram, Talib (May 17, 2024). "The new CEO of 'The Onion' is bringing back the 'good internet.' Here's how". After a 2014 mass shooting, The Onion first posted its story titled '"No Way to Prevent This," Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.' The headline, which now has its own Misplaced Pages page, has since been reposted on the site 35 times.

Time zones? CDT/CST

Why are all of these in Central Daylight Time, surely some of them would have been published in Central Standard Time? Should they reflect the local time in when they were published? Umimmak (talk) 03:59, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

The exact times are probably unnecessary and could be removed, keeping the date. Ckoerner (talk) 13:03, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Recent Move - Page Title

The "To" in the page title should remain capitalised as it is a direct quote of the subject of the page. Tayste (edits) 02:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

It's a title, not a direct quote. But even if it was a direct quote, you really do not need to worry about adhering to the capitalization used in the original source. aaronneallucas (talk) 18:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Citation for footnote a

Could someone change the citation in footnote a (about The Onion's homepage) from source 10 to source 8? Source 8 has the archived version of the homepage with all of the articles from the "No Way to Prevent" series. I am having trouble figuring out how to change the citation. AkiraRorschach (talk) 02:20, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Done TompaDompa (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Regular and cumulative

Made a (reverted) edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=%22No_Way_to_Prevent_This%22,_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens&oldid=1090121355 The reversion may very well have been the right call, but I see arguments for both. As the repeated articles add up, so do the victims. The two are connected. Thoughts? jax (talk) 04:15, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

I think that having something like what was in the reverted edit would be useful, so long as it was properly cited. It might be more useful to show deaths and injuries in each case, rather than the cumulative. aaronneallucas (talk) 18:50, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

I agree that it would be useful to show the deaths and injuries for each shooting instead of the cumulative statistics. The labels in the reverted edit's table are confusing because the reader is required to hover over "Deaths" and "Injuries" to find out that they are cumulative. AkiraRorschach (talk) 22:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Em-dash

I think I used the template correctly this time? I meant to add this to the edit summary but if people think it's more clear without the em-dash feel free to revert the edit. I just felt it was a nice to have a parenthetical there since it breaks up what otherwise is a run on sentence. I suppose could use parentheses but that seems like overkill. Operator-zeta (talk) 12:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Move Commas and Periods Inside Quotation Marks

Many times throughout article (including title), the comma is incorrectly placed outside the quotation marks. 2600:1700:2190:A890:9091:D3E4:98D6:288D (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Accuracy?

Without intending to minimize the issue, The Onion is satire and makes no claims of fact. Maybe there should be some way to mention this (beyond the description in the first sentence)? Incidentally: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/42384/does-america-not-lead-the-world-in-mass-shootings Drsruli (talk) 23:03, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Ignoring that this is a forum source, the question statts with: "According to an OpEd in the NY Post by John Lott and Michael Weisser that cites a report by the Crime Prevention Research Center , America doesn't lead the world in mass shootings." The NYP is not a reliable source and even if it did, it is an opinion piece by (according to one of the users that replies) "Michael Weisser, aka, 'Mike the Gun Guy', and John Lott, the president of the ". The user even investigated more than Weisser and Lott and found that: "The study was not peer reviewed, and does not have a coherent methods section with a well defined search strategy or case definition. To me, it reads like an undergraduate student's report or a blog post, not an academic study They start with events listed in the University of Maryland Global Terrorism Database, and then add events found using a defined nexis search and an undefined 'web search', which included wikipedia." The US might not be necessarily be the leading country, but certainly it is the only country in the world that always repeats the "There's No Way to Prevent This" cliche which is the punchline of the satirical article. (CC) Tbhotch 21:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

All articles featured on homepage again

In response to the July 4 shooting in Highland Park, IL, The Onion has once again featured all of the articles from this series on its homepage.

Could someone add a note to the Highland Park entry in the list, similar to the note for the Uvalde shooting? AkiraRorschach (talk) 16:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Done Juxlos (talk) 18:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

What's up with the quoting?

The quotes in the chapter "Reception" start like this: "here ... ". I've checked the source, and the only difference that's being paraphrased here is a capital letter. Shouldn't it just either keep the capital or make it lowercase without referencing it? Another citation in the same chapter uses this correctly, by replacing a reference to "it" with "". CanaDavid1 (talk) 05:45, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Retired?

The Onion hasn't posted an article with this title since last October, despite several high-profile shootings. Is this article officially retired? Maddox121 ForgotHisPassword (talk) 22:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

You were saying...!? 2A02:2F01:6A0D:E100:9097:EBB5:F874:EEAE (talk) 01:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Rats. Maddox121 ForgotHisPassword (talk) 02:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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