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Text and/or other creative content from this version of History of Greek and Roman Egypt was copied or moved into Aegyptus_(Roman_province) with on 8 June 2006. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Tamil pottery

I think this can be included in the article. http://www.hinduonnet.com/2007/11/21/stories/2007112158412400.htm Maybe someone can get more information on the subject. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 02:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

how is it today part of israel?

Israel has writhdraw from sinai pannesula since 1982.84.228.92.54 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC).

Restoring previous paragraph title

Please Help with restoring original title of the section "Christian Egypt" --ROO BOOKAROO (talk) 14:41, 4 June 2012 (UTC) Done!

The Bucolic War

Text currently says : "oppressive taxation led to a revolt in 139, of the native Egyptians, which was suppressed only after several years of fighting. This Bucolic War, led by one Isidorus, caused great damage to the economy"

This reads to me as if the Bucolic War began in 139AD.

However the entry for Isidorus http://en.wikipedia.org/Isidorus says that he was *born* in 139AD and the Bucolic War occurred in 172-173.

I haven't yet been able to find any details of a tax revolt in Egypt in 139, but there seems to be something that ins't right in this entry. I don't know emough about it to be able to correct it, so I am just flagging this up for clarification.

82.71.104.222 (talk) 21:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)Victoria

Nine years later, this has now been fixed. Sorry for the wait everyone ... GPinkerton (talk) 00:51, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Why is province in the title if it wasn't a province?

And if we wanted to be technically correct (the best kind of correct), what would be our alternatives? The only one I see is to move this to Aegyptus and demote the article already there to Aegyptus (mythology) Laura Scudder | talk 22:44, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

The preferred nomenclature would, I believe, be 'prefecture' following the title of the governor of the territory. Wagrid (talk) 17:37, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

@ 36.37.194.10 (talk) 08:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Not so. Prefecture might be be appropriate at the level of the nomes, inferior to provinces, into which Hellenistic and Roman Egypt, coincidentally with modern Greece (!), was divided, but I am not aware of its use. Following Diocletian's reforms the Roman province was divided into seven provinces: Aegyptus I,II, Augustamnica, Arcadia, Thebais, Cyrenaica Superior, Inferior, these forming part of the Diocese of Oriens (the East) until circa 381 when a separate Diocese of Aegyptus was constituted.User:Clive sweeting20 December 2019 (UTC)

Libya

Actually,a little part of the Provincia Aegypti is probably a part of Libya now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.16.162.231 (talk) 04:28, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Demotic name for province(s)

Are the native Demotic names extant for the Roman Egyptian provinces? I tried to look through the Chicago Demotic dictionary, but there was no index.

References

This article includes a list of general references, but it remains largely unverified because it lacks sufficient corresponding inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations. Help me please --👀Gremista.32 (talk) 22:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 26 December 2020

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 13:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Egypt (Roman province) → Roman Egypt – :This page has been through a number of moves, all in the 2000s. They were:

Aegyptus Province → Aegyptus (Roman province) @ 15:13, 6 April 2006‎ by Panairjdde~enwiki
Aegyptus (Roman province) → Ægyptus @ 00:42, 8 April 2007‎ by Whytecypress
Ægyptus → History of Roman Egypt @ 06:44, 19 September 2007‎‎ by Anthony Appleyard
History of Roman Egypt → Egypt (Roman province) @ 11:55, 19 April 2009‎ by EraNavigator

"Egypt (Roman province)" has obtained ever since 2009. However, none of these moves resulted in what is probably the best two options, though the original name, "Aegyptus Province" came close. "Aegyptus" is possibly the best place for the article, but that would have to displace the current ] to ]. The other best candidate is "Roman Egypt" and in my view this article should just move there and avoid the brackets, like Roman Gaul, Roman Britain, Roman Syria, etc. ] is presently a redirect though, so I can't do it myself. GPinkerton (talk) 07:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:31, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@GPinkerton: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:33, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Support: "Roman Egypt" is a common term. Also preferrable since Egypt was split into several provinces in the late empire but this article covers events up until the Romans lost the country, meaning that "Egypt (Roman province)" isn't actually accurate. Ichthyovenator (talk) 10:50, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Support: unambiguous, technically more accurate according to Ichthyovenator, consistent with several other provincial names (I'm not in favour of doing this with all provinces, but in this case it seems natural and makes good sense). P Aculeius (talk) 15:53, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Support. Egypt was notable not only as an administrative division. As already indicated, see Roman Britain and Roman Gaul, though Roman Syria should probably be moved to *Syria (Roman province)*. Avilich (talk) 18:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Support It would eliminate ambiguity, as covering the entire history of Egypt under Roman control. Not just its status as a singular province. Dimadick (talk) 22:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Lead

The lead has gotten too long. We do not need to mention, e.g., Scythae Iustiniani. Srnec (talk) 01:27, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Srnec, probably true, though at present I have much more planned for the article; there are whole topics that go unmentioned that will need some coverage in the lead, which I tried to hint at using the information in the brief dictionary entries I used for finding a suitably terse but complete academic treatment to work out a summary from. I am in medias res with this article, and in the fulness of time all things will be made well ... GPinkerton (talk) 01:38, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

153 riot in Alexandria

in 153, a riot in Alexandria killed the praefectus Aegypti.. As I check the List of governors of Roman Egypt, there is no mention of that event (Peluba (talk) 12:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC))

Peluba, I also checked that list, and either that list is incorrect, or there is some dispute as to whether it happened that year or the next. Lucius Munatius Felix is the relevant prefect, but his article too fails to mention this. I'm fairly sure it happened though, and probably in 153. GPinkerton (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

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