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Who's Up For the Challenge?
Find my secret page and recieve the ultra-special honour of a POKEYNUT AWARD. (NO CHEATING!)The Rebel's Gone Pokeynuts LOL 05:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
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You have mail
"Open your inbox quickly. It's really important. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 14:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
IRC
- Can you get on? Shapiros10 contact meMy work 13:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Civility, Maturity, Responsibility
Hej. What is source of this quote? --Александр Сигачёв (talk) 14:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- My Adopter User:Xenocidic
- But I stole it from my would-be admin coach, User:Balloonman. –xeno (talk) 16:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Who stole it from...... lol it could go on for ever :-) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 16:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- But I stole it from my would-be admin coach, User:Balloonman. –xeno (talk) 16:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Fixing redirects that aren't broken
I've looked at some of your contribs and I'm concerned that you are fixing redirects that aren't broken whose incoming links might one day point to what is an actual article. For example, the very first link changed in this diff: [1] piped a link to Interstate 9 to Future Interstate Highways, but one day there may actually be an Interstate 9 article, thus it shouldn't necessarily be fixed. Thus I'm also not sure if you should be fixing these redirects as they aren't broken. See also: WP:R2D. –xeno (talk) 16:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Meh, ok ill roll back my edits
- cheers. i know i said to run it on your main account but when i had a closer look at what it was doing i don't think it's particularly helpful, at least not for every one. so it might be best to wait for BAG input altogether. –xeno (talk) 16:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Tom Sayle
I deliberately don't provide an edit summary because to be blatently honest, I really can't be bothered. I also can't be bothered to sign my own posts- well, not with my IP address, anyway, because I just sign a blocked account that just ain't mine. Tom Sayle
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.112.224 (talk) 14:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Requests for arbitration -- Bedford -- Further Comment by Prom3th3an
Hi, Regarding your comment, "it filled[sic] incorrectly (Bedford did not notify Jimbo Wales on his talk page as per Request requirements no. 5, which further questions his conduct)" [2]. I believe Bedford already explained that, "I asked two of the ArbCom members about who should I file against. One basically said the actual defendants were vague, and the other said it wasn't necessary" [3] [4]. I would put this on the RFAr page following your comment, but I cannot because I just registered now. Joeblow179350 (talk) 18:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Typo
Just a heads up, you have a typo on your user page: "Renovatig User Space" should be "Renovating User Space" under What I am currently working on. Sorry, I'm a copyeditor at heart this stuff bugs me. Cheers. Washburnmav (talk) 19:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Contactor (2)
He, sorry if I was being dumb at that abuse report. I did read all the comments. But I did not believe that all those 71.107.*.* computers are open proxies. Can you proof that? Cheers, Face 10:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I did traceroutes on all four IPs from that range (71.107.133.226, 71.107.163.121, 71.107.165.252 and 71.107.161.105). They all trace back to nodes of which the names end with "lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net". Can you tell if they are open proxies / union servers? I don't know, I'm not an expert. Cheers, Face 18:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
This category you created appears to duplicate an preexisting (and populated) category Category:Abuse reports. Would you consider redirecting, blanking, or deleting your creation? Stepheng3 (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, I was not aware of the existing category but we are in the process of restructuring the abuse reports category as is, when I'm done I will merge the old category into the new category system. Cheers «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 23:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for the information. Stepheng3 (talk) 23:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, I was not aware of the existing category but we are in the process of restructuring the abuse reports category as is, when I'm done I will merge the old category into the new category system. Cheers «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 23:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Mediation Remarks
I am sorry, but I am also a volunteer. I don't intend to discuss something with an editor who sends me offensive emails, I don't have time or will for such mudfights. Look at his blocklog, for pity's sake, see who is the problem. If he apologizes and starts to assume good faith, mediation will be possible. If he cannot do that, and stands by his offensive words - don't expect me to waste time on that issue. PS. WWJD? He'd have blocked him long ago. If you don't believe, send him and email with "you are a dick" and see what he will do... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- With all that said, I always deeply appreciate efforts of mediators and other folks involved with DR. Perhaps after reviewing the situation and statements you will be able to come up with a solution that I don't see. Take care! PS. Do note I've added 3 users to mediation - I know they've also discussed the Polish-Jewish history with Boody. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't edit protected articles but for minor, noncontroversial edits (typos, etc.). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, I can wait. Once I've brought it up to FA, but I don't have time to do it again right now anyway :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've replied there.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, I can wait. Once I've brought it up to FA, but I don't have time to do it again right now anyway :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't edit protected articles but for minor, noncontroversial edits (typos, etc.). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- I have added my own apology for my part in the incivility to the mediation, with the caveat that a commitment be made by all to follow suit in agreeing to be civil, This has demonstrably been not a one sided issue. Boodlesthecat Meow? 17:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Impartial mediation?
This comment of your, including prognoses of my being blocked in the future, and winking at one side of a heated dispute does not inspire confidence in your impartiality. If you are of this attitude I am going to have to ask for a different mediator. Boodlesthecat Meow? 17:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Archived
Impartiality (continued)
No problem. I actually have no preference for page protection, just an end to the edit warring and an impartial voice who can mediate the content disputes. I do ask that you refrain from bringing up my supposedly problematic history (as you have done a number of times thus far). I can waste a lot of time and provide you with diffs of some absurd and obstinate gang editing behavior from the other "side" and endless personal attacks, including outright Jew baiting. Other editors can back up these observations, if needed. The simple fact is, despite my sordid log history, the vast bulk of the changes I have initiated to this article and a number of related articles stand despite the heated opposition of a group of editors because of the simple fact that they were proper and fully in accordance with Wiki guidelines. (And by the way, my unkind WP:DICK comment was a result of my angry frustration after having specifically requested that an edit war with a goal of filing yet another 3RR complaint not be instigated was ignored, and the 3RR was filed an hour and a half later anyway). We can avoid dwelling on the past if you henceforth will assume good faith and focus on moving forward. Boodlesthecat Meow? 17:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
PS: It would be helpful if 10 minute old discussions didnt get archived! Boodlesthecat Meow? 17:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Fair Enuff «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 17:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: RFA - Bedford Case
HI, I saw you accepted the case and was just wondering why, At this time the case is 4 Accept 4 Decline and you extra views would be valuable :) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 03:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think it would be a useful opportunity to reaffirm some of the relevant principles. We've been discussing this on the mailing list too, and I've mentioned that there. Suffice it to say that the question now is what is the most appropriate action to take now (if any is necessary at all), whether that be a case, or a motion without a case, or perhaps some other method; there doesn't seem to be any real substantive disagreement so I wouldn't be too hung up on the status of the request. --bainer (talk) 02:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Incorrect speedy deletion
Not a test page, I am working on filling in these randomized pages for Portal:Russia. Cirt (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Curious as to how you spotted Portal:Russia/DYK/9 in the first place? Cirt (talk) 08:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, no worries. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 08:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Ross Ray speedy declined
Hello. I declined the speedy on this as "President of the Law Council of Australia" asserts notability. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
There, and gone again, report to AIV
The editor concerned is "tired" and not retired. Any concerns should be directed to them in the first instance. Cheers. LessHeard vanU (talk) 15:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Done. Let me know if you need any help. Keilana|Parlez ici 16:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Sig question
Why does your signature for Prometheus start with the letter "ps"? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- It doesnt, It starts with a Latin letter, then rom3th3an. Perhaps your browser is not displaying the Latin letter properly «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 02:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Eh? The latin alphabet is our alphabet no? That's the greek letter for ps on my browser at least, see psychology infobox - the top letter is what i see in your signature. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok Well I just chose that letter because it looks good in my opinion and gives my signiture an original touch :-) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 02:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Touché salesman. It's all Greek to me anyway! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 03:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok Well I just chose that letter because it looks good in my opinion and gives my signiture an original touch :-) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 02:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Eh? The latin alphabet is our alphabet no? That's the greek letter for ps on my browser at least, see psychology infobox - the top letter is what i see in your signature. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thankspam
Thanks for weighing in at my RfA. Things didn't work out, probably for the reason you gave in opposing, but hey, I don't have to be an admin to help, and so I'll just keep doing what I've always done. "No big deal", as my philosophy on admins holds. I may ask your advice on mediating efforts in the future, btw. Thanks! Mr. IP 《Defender of Open Editing》 14:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Just Wondering....
Might I inquire as to the edit you made on my page? As far as I can tell, based on the link you added with the "if you wish to be adopted by someone else click here", I followed the proceedure it laid out. If I missed something please let me know, but otherwise, I'm not sure why you changed it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infero Veritas (talk • contribs) 14:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Alright...so how do I go about getting adopted by a different user then? I understand the change you made, thats fine, But I'm looking for some direction here. Infero Veritas (talk) 14:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
As per your response before the 'pet dog' comments...I'm basically looking for someone to help me get rolling on basic editing, maybe some templates and such, get a user page up, and then just random questions I have along the way. I was hoping to find someone who's active in the History section of things, but apparently that seems to be a rarity among adopters (maybe I'll be the first? lol) Anyways...if you're up for I'm game. The reason I wasn't all gung-ho about the chubbinator is mainly because I don't communicate well with people who could potentially be my offspring(based on their age of course, Ive never met his mother...promise)Infero Veritas (talk) 14:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Simple put, I'm slightly less than 25% of the way to my current life expectancy. (23) Ok...so maybe I can't have children at 10 years old...but the point was made. I read over your stuff for adoptees, looks like I could learn a good deal from them. So if you're up for it, I'm up for being adopted. I'm not gonna be a "one week wonder" as you put it...though I will forwarn you that I do own my own business, and as such there are times when that must take precedence over being on wiki. However, as I'm currently stuck in cleveland for my job (outside of my company) I have quite of bit of time for wiki this week:)Infero Veritas (talk) 17:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Tom's Hardware mediation page update
Hi Prom3th3an - I responded to the anonymous user's response several days ago, but so far he has not responded. What do you think about what I said in regards to his post? Please let me know.
Thank you so much. / Tuan Bom tuannguyen (talk) 23:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Touching Base
I'm fine, it's just things are a little hectic at the moment IRL so I can't do all the adoption things right now. Speaking of, can you fix the subpage box because you forgot to put an end on it so every new section on my talk gets subbed into it. PXK T /C 01:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
New parties
Please note that I've added 3 new editors as party to Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-08-02_History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland#Who_are_the_involved_parties.3F (see also talk of the mediation).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 03:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Check my Subpage
Notification
PXK T /C 16:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
History of the Jews in Poland medcab
Could you please weigh in on the mediation. I am pleading for WP:AGF and specific issues to be addressed, and am being barraged with filibustering and personal attacks. This is not constructive. Boodlesthecat Meow? 16:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Can't mediate atm
See user:xavexgoem and note at talk. ISP went dead. You're on your own for a bit, I'm afraid. I'll see what I can do while I'm on this comp, but chances are I won't have much connectivity for the next week or so. Xavexgoem (talk) 01:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Notification
Example of the typical nonsense
Here you can see yet another example of the Jew baiting nonsense one has to put up with on these articles. The cause of this particular outburst? Because I supported the view that the Polish expression "Don't be a Jew" just might be anti-semitic! Boodlesthecat Meow? 19:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
Hi, I'm Hellboy2hell. You may have not notice me before or you have. I have seen you busy making wikipedia a better place. I would be honoured to nominate you as an admin. Do you accept? H2H (talk) 07:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes I have seen you around, Im chuffed to say the least, however im going to have to turn down your offer, Im sure you would have written an excellent and fitting nomination however at this point of time I beleive I can serve Wikipedia just as well as any admin could and for this reason dont want to be an admin. If I change my mind on becomming and Admin later down the track, you'll be one of the first to know :-). Many thanks for you kind offer «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 11:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Somebody as noble as you; I would have guessed. However, keep up your good editing. H2H (talk) 11:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Bionic
I am User:DNA in Bionic and I can not understand why I am Blocked in Bionic. Better perform a CU here :) Renaulte (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights) 08:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- its quite simple really, you have been editing bionic from an IP that has been used abusivly by a renound sockpuppeter. Zero chance policy. «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 14:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Tell my socks in WP :( Renaulte (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights) 15:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
???
Ok maybe an indef is a little over the top, but a block at least for a month or two. «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 14:07, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
What good will punishment do? Hasn't he been punished enough? —Giggy 14:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh dear lord, you're either stupid or doing a darn good job of pretending you are. You think he's still doing any of those things? Both admins have desysopped! News flash; he isn't a prolific account hacker, and he sure as hell isn't abusing admin tools now! Yes, please continue: I'd like to see how incapable you are of seeing the bigger picture here. This is the REAL WORLD we're talking about, not the MMORPG you think you're playing.
- Incidentally, the community is perfectly capable of botching up its own decision making process without Jimbo's intervention. I think the only intelligent think you said in that comment is to leave it to the ArbCom. —Giggy 14:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Your comments on WP:AN
Please read and think very carefully about this, before my patience for the trouble you're causing expires. --Deskana (talk) 18:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello Prom3th3an, I noticed you closed the RfA mentioned in the header. I have to say, however, that while it's acceptable for non-bureaucrats to close RfAs like this, I would like to mention that prior to your closing of this RfA, you opposed it. Please be aware that it is considered inappropriate to close an RfA you've participated in, with the possible exception of closing a withdrawn RfA, as those don't require independent judgment from the closer. This isn't a huge deal, but please remember in future, if you ever have to close someone's RfA as SNOW again, make sure you haven't participated in the request first. Just think of it as not closing AfDs that you've participated in or created. I will congratulate you for at least telling the candidate why you closed the RfA: that should always be done. Best wishes, and thank you. Acalamari 20:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Comments to User talk:Deskana
Prom3th3an, it is generally considered polite to warn a user before issuing them a block, so that's what I decided to do. If you do not wish to be warned, then I shall bear that in mind. --Deskana (talk) 10:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Very well, next time I shall use my one of my favourite templates when I feel the need to leave a message on your talk page: {{block-reason}} --Deskana (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Your comments at WP:RFAR
I had already posted my concerns about your impartiality and took on faith your reassurances that you were being "diplomatic. However, your comments at WP:RFAR here are troubling, and I have to revert to my earlier suspicions about your impartiality. As well, you were quite uncivil. You comment on my "colourful blocklog." I would suggest that, before you make well poisoning statements, you examine such things. You might find that a good chunk of that "colourfulness" was the result of disputes with, among others, a now-banned serial sock puppetmaster, and a now banned Nazi POS (not to mention getting blocked thanks to the Piotrus crew's rapidly getting old team revert then file a 3RR complaint vaudeville routine). There have been other editors and admins who thanked me on and offline for putting up with much abuse in pursuing these cases. I don't ask for your thanks; I do ask that you refrain from reckless character assassination and well poisoning. You write that that I "have been lucky not to be indef blocked." This seems to indicate that you feel my not being indef blocked is a mistake. In which case, I recommend that you take action to have me indef blocked to right this wrong, OR, that you refrain from such character assassinations and innuendos meant to discredit my comments. I also request that you move to find a new mediator on the current case we are involved with. I can no longer feel comfortable with the impartiality of your involvement, judging from your actions from the very beginning. Cheers, Boodlesthecat Meow? 17:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Last time I checked I was impartial in my role as a Mediator. My comments on WP:RFAR are of my own opinion (as i have now indicated on WP:RFAR) and I am allowed to express them outside mediation borders. As for being uncivil, I hardly call mentioning the truth uncivil, you do have colourful blocklog, its a fact you will have to accept in due time. Out of curiosisty, How would you describe your block log to a blind man? Because my impartialty is disputed, I'll gladly drop the case from my table. The case was about to be closed due to the stalemate thats occuring, howeer ill leave that to another mediator «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 23:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, perhaps you can check again. Your response on WP:RFAR was entirely ad hominem, addressing nothing of substance in my comments regarding Protus flagrant misuse of his authority , such as his threatening to block me for removing a documented anti-semitic BLP violation, and was entirely inappropriate for someone supposedly mediating, as were your conversations with Priotus that I expressed concern about a month ago--a concern I should have paid more attention to. Boodlesthecat Meow? 03:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- And since you've now revealed your true intent and have joined the mediation as a participant, I should advise you to tread carefully with your threats of having me blocked. That mediation clearly demonstrated the team POV edit warring Piotrus and his allies are engaging in. I was principled and cooperative throughout the mediation, in the face of endless filibustering and refusal to supply actual content issues. It's all in the history. So please lighten up with the threats and the attitude. Boodlesthecat Meow? 06:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Editor Review
Hey, thanks for the review :). In response to the last comment i'm not currently looking to go for an RfA; i've decided to wait until someone else nominates me before doing so.
Thanks, on that topic, for the oppose vote in my RfA, and that isn't sarcasm! Looking back I wouldn't have voted support, never mind other editors! So thanks for preventing the sysopping of a truly appalling admin candidate :P. Ironholds 23:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- I dont think your any more appalling then some of the candidates ive seen, At the time you were about a 4.5 on the candidate scale (0 = Appualing, 10 = Excellent). I would have opposed for the in-experiance (and i did) but im ashamed to admit the the atheist userbox did come to mind and closed the deal, which was somewhat un-professional of me. That given if you run again I would probably support now. However im not willing nominate you (not that you've asked), I have a reputation at this time that could be contagious and would hate to lower your chances of you success. «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 03:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks; it wasn't un-professional at all; the concerns raised were valid. Ironically the only possible unprofessionalism would be the same logic as the oppose from the other side. I was opposed since showing my atheistic beliefs would make any edits to do with religious material suspect regardless of my intentions; in contrast, the only reason your oppose could be considered un-professional would be if it was driven by your religious beliefs :P. I know that probably isn't the case, but I find it funny anyway, haha. I'd rather have spontaneous nom's rather than "hey, can you sponsor me?"; a good friend of mine did that'n a while back, and while I feel he is an excellent bloke to be wielding the banhammer I do feel that tainted the proceedings (at least for me) somewhat. In regards to your reputation; massive cock-ups are normally extremely visible on WP, and i've heard nothing, so it can't be that bad. Ironholds 04:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Comment
I see you are apparently interested in eventually passing RFA. I might note that Jimbo and sending emails that 2 arbitrators specifically warn you are out of line is more likely to result in a template from a category like this than an RFA promotion template. You might want to take a step back and re-evaluate the situation at this point. MBisanz talk 11:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- I was actually listing my rationale to support/oppose other candidates. Adminship doesnt interest me at this time, but may in the very distent future. «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 14:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
chill out, mon frere
hey man, just thought I'd drop in and just suggest you forget about this whole SC situation. now do you see why I don't bother with IRC/Skype/any of that off-wiki business? just keep it all in the open, imo. take it easy, –xeno (talk) 12:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, to much drama can be bad the mind ;) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 17:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
A few tips about closing RfAs
Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Jagun First, it's best not to close something you personally voted in, like an RfA or an AfD. Second, maybe I can refer you to User:Enigmaman/SNOW, which contains all the steps for closing an RfA. You seem to have missed a few. Cheers, Enigma message 13:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Enigma, Thanks for the advice, it was the first time I closed and RFA, but I felt it needed to be done. I will ensure next time I follow the proper procedure. thanks again «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 17:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
DMOZ
DMOZ links are acceptable, in fact, they are one of the ways of preventing linkfarms in articles. As far as worrying about the article inaccessable to those behind content filters... That's not our concern. –xeno (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- My mistake «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 17:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Milton cooper was a criminal
Why you defending him, he attempted to murder a sheriff, wether you want to accept the truth or not! Your personal fantasy does not overide the truth. Block me and ill take action and change my IP in about 30 minutes :)--203.192.91.4 (talk) 16:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Reported to AIV and Blocked. «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 17:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus 2/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Coren (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)