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19 May 2022

• curprev 12:0512:05, 19 May 2022 Denisnevsky talk contribs 40,118 bytes −970 I've made my reasoning for removal clear. Multiple people have already attempted to change this. If you believe that this isn't a passing comment, it is your responsibility to make a citation showing it. undo Tags: Manual revert Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 02:5802:58, 19 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 41,088 bytes +970 Undid revision 1088597550 by Denisnevsky (talk) Holy hell, stop edit warring. Per WP:STATUSQUO the burden is one you to establish consensus for a contested before it can added. Misplaced Pages doesn't work through a reversion tug of war undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 01:2301:23, 19 May 2022 Denisnevsky talk contribs 40,118 bytes +48 Added more context to Mace's article. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 01:1601:16, 19 May 2022 Denisnevsky talk contribs 40,070 bytes −970 Undid revision 1088594666 by CASalt (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 00:5100:51, 19 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 41,040 bytes +970 Undid revision 1088592692 by Denisnevsky (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 00:3100:31, 19 May 2022 Denisnevsky talk contribs 40,070 bytes −970 Deleted "Payaslian's assessment of the consensus" Explanation: Violates WP:RSCONTEXT (Mentioned in passing). It is disingenuous to put a scholar who has no previous history of work involving the Holodomor, and only mentioned it once unsourced in passing in the same section as Mace, Naimark, and Snyder who all wrote significant scholarly work on the Holodomor. I understand that this would make the sections unbalanced, but I don't believe that justifies keeping this in this section. undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

18 May 2022

• curprev 20:0720:07, 18 May 2022 Czello talk contribs 41,040 bytes +1,317 Undid revision 1088564414 by AjaxPdx (talk) discuss on talk please undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 20:0120:01, 18 May 2022 AjaxPdx talk contribs 39,723 bytes −1,317 Undid revision 1088530226 by CASalt (talk) CASalt talk is engaging in edit warring. If Simon Payaslian's argument is based on more than a passing comment in an article largely about the Armenian genocide then it is their own responsibility to provide a proper citation of the section on this question. CASalt is advised to stop their own edit warring and engage constructively. undo Tags: Undo Reverted references removed
• curprev 15:4015:40, 18 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 41,040 bytes +1,317 Undid revision 1088492523 by AjaxPdx (talk) Principal topic of article is 20th century genocides. The threshold for a passing comment is no where close to met. This genocide literature, and the comment on consensus on genocides is directly linked to it. Arguing otherwise is patently absurd and stretches the limits of credulity. The continued edit-warring here is an affront to WP:STATUSQUO. Go through the proper channels and desist this now undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 09:5709:57, 18 May 2022 AjaxPdx talk contribs m 39,723 bytes −1,317 Removed reference to Simon Payaslian's article on the Armenian genocide. This article is about the Holodomor and taking a passing comment from an article about a different event, lacking any argument or citation is invalid under WP:RSCONTEXT "Information provided in passing by an otherwise reliable source that is not related to the principal topics of the publication may not be reliable" undo Tags: Reverted references removed Visual edit

17 May 2022

• curprev 10:2510:25, 17 May 2022 Graham87 talk contribs 41,040 bytes −112 →External links: rm link added by 2001:8003:ddb1:c600:a4e2:d541:778f:3733, block-evading extreme right-wing vandal; not really what the external links section is for anyway undo

16 May 2022

• curprev 16:0516:05, 16 May 2022 The MooseMan44 talk contribs m 41,152 bytes +5 Moved a hyperlink directing to article "Soviet Union" into the first paragraph and fixed a run-on sentence in the third paragraph. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 06:4406:44, 16 May 2022 Yue talk contribs 41,147 bytes +45 →Famine as a genocide: Clarity undo
• curprev 06:4406:44, 16 May 2022 Yue talk contribs 41,102 bytes −5 →Robert Conquest undo

13 May 2022

• curprev 20:5020:50, 13 May 2022 Cdjp1 talk contribs m 41,107 bytes +65 →Andrea Graziosi undo

11 May 2022

• curprev 21:5221:52, 11 May 2022 82.129.102.139 talk 41,042 bytes 0 →Andrea Graziosi: Spelling error undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit

9 May 2022

• curprev 04:5804:58, 9 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 41,042 bytes +58 →Andrea Graziosi undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 04:5704:57, 9 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 40,984 bytes +1,622 Added Graziosi undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 04:3004:30, 9 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 39,362 bytes +969 Undid revision 1086908120 by Endwise (talk) It is genuinely impossible to argue in good faith that the passing comment doctrine has any relevance here. What you are trying to argue is that Simon Payaslian is WP:UNRELIABLE which is a different thing all together. Either way he has been on this page for years and per WP:STATUSQUO the burden is on you to establish his removal. So ready up the RFC and stop edit-warring. undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 03:1903:19, 9 May 2022 Endwise talk contribs 38,393 bytes −969 Undid revision 1086839436 by CASalt (talk) It is quite plainly a passing comment, and you appear to be the only one who thinks otherwise undo Tags: Undo Reverted

8 May 2022

• curprev 17:3617:36, 8 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 39,362 bytes +969 Undid revision 1086793351 by Hamshire (talk) Reverted, see talk page. Not what "passing comment" means undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 11:3411:34, 8 May 2022 Hamshire talk contribs 38,393 bytes −969 →Famine as a genocide: see talk page undo Tags: Manual revert Reverted Mobile edit Mobile app edit Android app edit
• curprev 03:2903:29, 8 May 2022 Spokoyni talk contribs 39,362 bytes −29 article has been deleted undo Tags: Undo Reverted

7 May 2022

• curprev 06:5906:59, 7 May 2022 Shari Garland talk contribs 39,391 bytes +29 →See also: Genocide of Ukrainians undo Tag: Reverted

5 May 2022

• curprev 18:0018:00, 5 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 39,362 bytes +969 Undid revision 1086275790 by 2001:1530:1016:1174:9DBB:7CBF:A41A:D788 (talk) Reverted. A mention of consensus is in of itself relevant to an article titled "holodomer genocide question" to suggest otherwise is completely fallacious and unserious. Also Payaslian and Oxford ARE the sources undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 06:5006:50, 5 May 2022 2001:1530:1016:1174:9dbb:7cbf:a41a:d788 talk 38,393 bytes −969 →Payaslian's assessment of the consensus: brief mention of the holodomor with no sources, not particularly relevant undo Tag: Reverted

3 May 2022

• curprev 23:2123:21, 3 May 2022 Mzajac talk contribs 39,362 bytes +88 Undid revision 1085994892 by QueenofBithynia (talk) see talk page undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 23:1823:18, 3 May 2022 Mzajac talk contribs 39,274 bytes +345 Undid revision 1085995293 by QueenofBithynia (talk) see talk page undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 23:0823:08, 3 May 2022 Mzajac talk contribs 38,929 bytes +969 Undid revision 1085995412 by QueenofBithynia (talk) The main subject of the source is 20th-c genocides and this is a defining statement in the lead, not “in passing.” See WP:RSCONTEXT undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 15:4015:40, 3 May 2022 QueenofBithynia talk contribs 37,960 bytes −969 Ditto. This is a passing comment. undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• curprev 15:4015:40, 3 May 2022 QueenofBithynia talk contribs 38,929 bytes −345 See talk page undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• curprev 15:3715:37, 3 May 2022 QueenofBithynia talk contribs 39,274 bytes −88 →See also: See talk page undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

1 May 2022

• curprev 21:5421:54, 1 May 2022 Cdjp1 talk contribs m 39,362 bytes +5 c/e undo
• curprev 21:5321:53, 1 May 2022 Cdjp1 talk contribs 39,357 bytes −778 Trimmed section in lede as explained in greater detail in subsequent section, and fixed reference conflict undo
• curprev 14:0514:05, 1 May 2022 AnomieBOT talk contribs m 40,135 bytes +14 Dating maintenance tags: {{Whom}} undo
• curprev 13:4513:45, 1 May 2022 Boynamedsue talk contribs 40,121 bytes +2 →James Mace undo
• curprev 13:4513:45, 1 May 2022 Boynamedsue talk contribs 40,119 bytes +5 →James Mace: Mace's report "holding up well" is a value judgment which should be attributed undo
• curprev 06:0706:07, 1 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 40,114 bytes −1 →Famine as a result of natural factors: NOT even purport* undo
• curprev 06:0306:03, 1 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 40,115 bytes −6,305 →Famine as a result of natural factors: The inclusion of this out of context quote from Kulchytsky under the heading of "Famine as a result of natural factors" is one of the grossest distortions I've ever seen on this site. Not only does the quote even purport to support the heading it's under (even when taken out of context). But Kulchytsky has spent his entire life fighting against claims that the Holodomer was NOT man-made (https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/world/europe/16kiev.html). undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:4905:49, 1 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 46,420 bytes +34 →Famine as a result of natural factors: added a MAIN template linking towards Denial of the Holodomor; per that article "Denial of the Holodomor (...) is the claim that the Holodomor, a large-scale, man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932–1933, did not occur" undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:3205:32, 1 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 46,386 bytes +1,045 Reinstated government positions. Regardless of how correct or fair an individual Wikipedian might perceive their viewpoints as, the positions of governments and legal institutions absolutely are relevant to an article on the "Holodomer genocide question". To suggest otherwise is borderline farcical. This article is called is called the "Holodomer genocide question" not "scholoarly viewpoints on the Holodomor genocide question" undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:2205:22, 1 May 2022 CASalt talk contribs 45,341 bytes +1,314 →Famine as a genocide: The removal of Payaslian was justified in the edit history because his section was merely restating the other sections. This is in turn was justified to remove his claim on scholrly consensus from the lead. This is not true, Payaslian makes a distinct claim that the other sections don't; that there is a scholarly consensus on the holodomer being a genocide. This needs to be included (WP:NPOV). Either way, I've rephrased his sub-section title to clarify his claim undo Tag: Visual edit

29 April 2022

• curprev 04:5004:50, 29 April 2022 Yue talk contribs m 44,027 bytes +5 + a undo
• curprev 04:4904:49, 29 April 2022 Yue talk contribs 44,022 bytes +1 Robert Conquest should be in the "Famine as crime but not genocide" section given what is written about him. undo

28 April 2022

• curprev 14:4614:46, 28 April 2022 Novem Linguae talk contribs 44,021 bytes +35 Added {{Over-quotation}} tag undo Tag: Twinkle
• curprev 14:4514:45, 28 April 2022 Novem Linguae talk contribs 43,986 bytes −35 fix pov quote undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 08:4608:46, 28 April 2022 Cdjp1 talk contribs m 44,021 bytes +139 formatted some of the references. undo
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• curprev 03:2203:22, 28 April 2022 Yue talk contribs m 44,174 bytes +22 fixed dashes using a script undo
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