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| This is ]. The article name is in violation of ] (because there is no proof of any such "influence operations"). No source has been provided for the claims in the lead, although they have been fact-tagged for a long time and this has been requested many times. There are no similar articles in WP either (there is no ] or ]. If this material should be in Misplaced Pages at all, it belongs to ], not in a POV article such as this. ] (]) 21:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | This is ]. The article name is in violation of ] (because there is no proof of any such "influence operations"). No source has been provided for the claims in the lead, although they have been fact-tagged for a long time and this has been requested many times. There are no similar articles in WP either (there is no ] or ]. If this material should be in Misplaced Pages at all, it belongs to ], not in a POV article such as this. ] (]) 21:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| *'''Delete''' too synthy. ] (]) 23:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' too synthy. ] (]) 23:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep'''. Found a source for the lead that verifies the ] have analyzed and reported upon these influence activities. In fact, I'd be inclined to rename the article ], since this is how the Estonian security police characterizes it in their annual report, and that view seems to be confirmed by various and , which places the recent cyber attacks as one element of a wider information war. I suppose the aim of any "]" is to influence. I don't think the name violates NPOV; it complies with ], as it provides the '''where''' and the '''what'''. --] (]) 01:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Russian influence operations in Estonia
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This is WP:SYNTH. The article name is in violation of WP:NPOV (because there is no proof of any such "influence operations"). No source has been provided for the claims in the lead, although they have been fact-tagged for a long time and this has been requested many times. There are no similar articles in WP either (there is no American influence operations in Pakistan or American influence operations in (name your country). If this material should be in Misplaced Pages at all, it belongs to Estonia-Russia relations, not in a POV article such as this. Offliner (talk) 21:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith 02:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith 02:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete too synthy. JBsupreme (talk) 23:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. Found a source for the lead that verifies the Estonian Security Police have analyzed and reported upon these influence activities. In fact, I'd be inclined to rename the article Russian information war against Estonia, since this is how the Estonian security police characterizes it in their annual report, and that view seems to be confirmed by various scholarly sources and news sources, which places the recent cyber attacks as one element of a wider information war. I suppose the aim of any "information war" is to influence. I don't think the name violates NPOV; it complies with Misplaced Pages:Naming_conventions_(events), as it provides the where and the what. --203.35.135.133 (talk) 01:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)