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| :*Not seeing any major disjoint between the sections. Four ITNs is the norm. ] (]) 19:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | :*Not seeing any major disjoint between the sections. Four ITNs is the norm. ] (]) 19:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | ||
| :::What? I've never heard of any such "four blurb" norm. The norm has been ] as long as I can remember. I've never even ''seen'' anyone object to a balance adjustment before. Link to this rule? I can't find anything. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC) | :::What? I've never heard of any such "four blurb" norm. The norm has been ] as long as I can remember. I've never even ''seen'' anyone object to a balance adjustment before. Link to this rule? I can't find anything. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC) | ||
| ===Impeachment charge=== | |||
| The term "incitement of insurrection" should not be wikilinked to ] unless there RSs can show this is the prevailing legal interpretation of the impeachment charge. Otherwise the link should be changed to ]. ] (]) 20:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :A few preliminary sources: | |||
| :*''BBC'': "The House of Representatives accused Mr Trump of encouraging violence with his false claims of election fraud." | |||
| :*''Washington Post'': "Thus, the House said, Trump violated the 14th Amendment by inciting violence against the government." The same article contrasts the charge against Trump with potential sedition/seditious conspiracy charges against some of the rioters. | |||
| :So far I haven't found anything to support the sedition interpretation. | |||
| :Another alternative is to link to each term independently: "] of ]". ] (]) 20:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have replaced it with a link just to insurrection. I didn't think incitement really needed linking, as that's a fairly standard English word and we don't want link bloat, but if others disagree we can reconsider. — ] (]) 06:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :*The phrase "seditious acts" is in the article of impeachment itself. The word sedition is defined as "incitement to rebellion." Why are we splitting hairs here? ''<small>]</small>'' 13:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| Why is the old pic of Trump grinning back? The one of him brooding seems much more appropriate in context. ] (]) (]) 20:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :See which has been resolved. An alternative could be ] from the target article. ]<sup>]</sup> 20:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::No alternatives please. We use his official pic, as we do for all other subjects. — ] (]) 21:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :Oh, yes, please, let's dredge up this discussion again, because we didn't expend nearly enough bytes on the last one. ''']'''-''<small>(])</small>'' 22:31, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::Can someone just kill off this entire thread? Even the sedition/insurrection discussion is getting a little old now.... — ] (]) 22:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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"With the southern vote split, Abraham Lincoln won the election" is a peculiar construction. It implies (without explicitly stating) that the split was material to Lincoln's victory, which it was not. Lincoln won absolute majorities in states representing 173 electoral votes (of the 152 he required). The frequency with which I hear the election described this way makes me suspect some malicious intent to cast ambiguity on the result. GreatCaesarsGhost 01:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Please remove another item to balance out the Main Page, thanks. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 19:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not seeing any major disjoint between the sections. Four ITNs is the norm. Mjroots (talk) 19:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- What? I've never heard of any such "four blurb" norm. The norm has been balance as long as I can remember. I've never even seen anyone object to a balance adjustment before. Link to this rule? I can't find anything. ~Swarm~ 03:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Impeachment charge
The term "incitement of insurrection" should not be wikilinked to Sedition unless there RSs can show this is the prevailing legal interpretation of the impeachment charge. Otherwise the link should be changed to Incitement. AnonQuixote (talk) 20:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- A few preliminary sources:
- BBC: "The House of Representatives accused Mr Trump of encouraging violence with his false claims of election fraud."
- Washington Post: "Thus, the House said, Trump violated the 14th Amendment by inciting violence against the government." The same article contrasts the charge against Trump with potential sedition/seditious conspiracy charges against some of the rioters.
- So far I haven't found anything to support the sedition interpretation.
- Another alternative is to link to each term independently: "incitement of insurrection". AnonQuixote (talk) 20:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have replaced it with a link just to insurrection. I didn't think incitement really needed linking, as that's a fairly standard English word and we don't want link bloat, but if others disagree we can reconsider. — Amakuru (talk) 06:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- The phrase "seditious acts" is in the article of impeachment itself. The word sedition is defined as "incitement to rebellion." Why are we splitting hairs here? GreatCaesarsGhost 13:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Why is the old pic of Trump grinning back? The one of him brooding seems much more appropriate in context. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- See this thorough discussion which has been resolved. An alternative could be the impeachment voting pic from the target article. Brandmeister 20:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- No alternatives please. We use his official pic, as we do for all other subjects. — Amakuru (talk) 21:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, yes, please, let's dredge up this discussion again, because we didn't expend nearly enough bytes on the last one. WaltCip-(talk) 22:31, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Can someone just kill off this entire thread? Even the sedition/insurrection discussion is getting a little old now.... — Amakuru (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Internet Engineering Task Force - not seeing the date in the source provided and about a dozen citations needed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Replaced. — Amakuru (talk) 21:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Cheers, can you fix the "Tony Awards" redirect please? Oh, and where's the date cited? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done. I've sourced the date and amended the link. It's not the best article reference-wise, is it... but it was found on the "eligible" list. — Amakuru (talk) 22:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- No comment..... But thanks! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 23:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done. I've sourced the date and amended the link. It's not the best article reference-wise, is it... but it was found on the "eligible" list. — Amakuru (talk) 22:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Cheers, can you fix the "Tony Awards" redirect please? Oh, and where's the date cited? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Replaced. — Amakuru (talk) 21:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Patrice Lumumba - ironically given the subject above, the article states (a) the complicity allegedly included Belgium, the US and the UN, so why they've been left out of the blurb I know not but (b) the assertions appear to have been made in a book which Misplaced Pages does not currently seem to consider notable. Genuine question: are these allegations main-page-worthy? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've removed this blurb for Main Page balance, and to avoid multiple hooks from the same geographic region. I did reword this to mention the UN, though, so I've kept it in the eligible section barring any further issues. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 00:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Mount Nyiragongo - the damage and number of homeless is unreferenced, a basic requirement. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Reference added, and some of the citation-needed tags resolved. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 23:54, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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