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Martial arts

Hi, thanks for your message. I checked Dravidian martial arts, but it looks to me like Category:Indian martial arts is the most appropriate category for it at this time. Do you disagree? --Elonka 09:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello Elonka. Thanks for the reply. Well, I would have to partially agree and disagree. While Tamil martial arts which is also classified as Dravidian martial arts have been practiced in India for times history, these combative arts have been practiced in Sri lanka too. Actually, before the arrival of the British, Sri Lanka and India were not the names of this part of the world at one time. There were many kingdoms and even nations such as the Cholas, Cheras, and Pandyas of the Tamils. Pallavas of the Telugus, the Kingdoms of Kandy and Kotte of the Sinhalese, and so forth... The Tamil kingdoms were in both Southern India and Northeastern Sri Lanka respectively. So, I feel that the category Dravidian martial arts would be an appropriate classification since these arts cross borders. Lastly, I plan to expand on the Dravidian martial arts and to find more from other Dravidian groups such as the Kanaddigas, Telugus, and the Tulus. Much Regards. Wiki Raja 10:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's nothing that says that an article can only have one category. Feel free to add as many others as you feel are appropriate.  :) --Elonka 10:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Martial Arts

Raja,

OK Fine. :) Do let me know if and when I can be of some help.-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 21:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks. Wiki Raja 08:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:On Yakshagana

I have to appreciate your efforts in trying to create a meaningful article on the topic. I hope you'll continue adding material to that article. Gnanapiti 21:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration

Hi there. This fortnight's Indonesia Collaboration is > > > Indonesian language < < <. Please contribute! Please nominate for the next collab here. What about choosing one the shorter Indonesia stubs this time? kind regards Merbabu 15:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Dravidian people.

Re . ARYAN818's talk page indicates that he's causing a lot of trouble. You can request help at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, asking an administrator to look at User:ARYAN818's edit to Talk:Dravidian_people. -- Jeandré, 2006-12-29t08:15z

See this is why I cant say anything.....This user is saying that my page shows that im causing alot of problems.....no thats not true....im debating people....and alot of wiki people cant handle debates and because of that they report me.....plus.....my name itself leads some idiots to believe that im a hitler nazi or something when im not.....so....please dont write something stupd like my page indicates that i cause alot of problems ARYAN818 23:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

${\displaystyle Insertformulahere}$==Theres no such thing as a Dravidian race ==

The term Dravidian is a racist term that was made up by Europeans who beleived in an Aryan invasion theory.....An Aryan does exist lol....Its written about in Vedic literature and Indian history......It was termed Aryan or ARYA or ARYA PUT.....BUt the term Dravidian is made up.....thers no such thing as a Dravidian.....U asked me if I consider the Punjabis & Tamils the same group of people.....today no.....In the bigger picture....yes...they are the same ARYAN818 23:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Then you haven't read Tamil literature which talks about Tamilakkam or the Tamil country of present day Southern India. After all, isn't Dravidian a Sanskrit or Greek term for Damila = Tamilian? If you are saying that there is no such thing as a Dravidian, you are saying that there is no such thing as an Indian. Can you tell me in which ancient literature (Sanskrit, Tamil, Kanadda, Bengali, etc.) which mentions the word "Indian" or "India"? The word India itself is a derivation of the Greek term Indica, which was derived from the Persian or Indo-Iranian word for the Indus Valley or Hindu. Otherwise there was really no India. I unerstand that the original name for "India" was Bharat which consisted of 16 Mahajanapadas or republics. But, that only consisted of present day North India, Pakistan, part of Afghanistan and part of Central India. As for the Dravidian South, or Tamilakkam if you may, it was its own separate entity with its own kingdoms. Even in Asoka's rock inscriptions III. and IV. It mentions of the boundaries of his empire, and states that the kingdoms of Chera, Chola, and Pandya (Tamilakkam) were outside his realm. The whole sub-continent became united under one administration during the 1700s.

I will admit that the term Dravidian was invented by an outside source to describe the Tamilians and their sister groups such as the Telugus, and Kannadigas. Correct me if I am wrong, but in Vedic literature, do they not mention of Damilas, or Dravidas? How about the Indian national anthem? We can learn a lot from each other. Anyways, I would like to have contructive historical and cultural discussions with you instead of arguements. My olive branch to you: Can we work together collectively and humanely? Regards.

Wiki Raja 02:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Talking about Tamilakkam or the Tamil country of present day Southern India doesnt mean theres a race of people known as Dravidians......And what do u mean if theres no such thing as a Dravidian theres no such thing as Indian?.....Being Indian (Brrruah) is a nationality....So I dont understand your logic on that one.....and....Another thing.....when....when...when....did i ever say that any Sanskrit literature had the word Indian in it?....I never said that......Raj....buddy....im not sure what kinda arguments ur giving me here ARYAN818 04:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I sounded a little confusing, but what I meant to explain was that the terminology Dravidian is a classification or name of a family of simliar ethnic groups. While the terminology India was given as a name given for the country itself. So, in reality, both the terms India and Dravidian do exist. Furthermore, both names Dravidian and India have been given by the early Europeans. Did you know that the terms Australia and aborigine were names given by Europeans, Greek to be exact? Furthermore, a separate and distinct group of ethnicities do exist in Southern India whom are categorized as Dravidians. Lastly, please use a little more civility while posting discussions or engaging in debate on wikipedia. Thank you and Happy New Year. Wiki Raja 04:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I have something about this topic for you in Aryan's talk page. Aupmanyav 07:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Since this topic concerns both of us, so I thought it better to post on your page. Aryan, of course, is welcome to join us, if he so desires. Here is what I would like to add. You said on Aryan's page that Aryans (and Greeks) called South Indians Dravida, it may or may not be true. There might have been people who called themselves Dravida. The writers of Vishnu Purana and Padma Purana might have picked up the name by which these people knew themselves, e.g., Marwari for those who lived in the earstwhile state of Jodhpur and Mewari for those who lived in the state of Udaipur. I will also contest your view that Bharatvarsha was only North India, otherwise Kalidasa's Meghdoot would not have taken the trouble to travel all the way from Kanyakumari to Himalaya, travelling from Vindhyas would have been enough. And if Dravidians signifies aboriginals then those in the South India are not the only ones, you have other aboriginals in UP, Bihar, Bengal, and Orissa. So all aboriginals of India cannot be termed as Dravidas. This was the real mischief done by christian missionaries, they turned the name of a people into a race and separate from Aryans. Aupmanyav 12:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Well anything can be an ethnic group....But Indians are not Dravidian....Nobody calls themself Dravidian...And some probably dont even know what it means....And again....Why do u keep telling me about the word India?....I never disputed who coined the name India....BUt I dont understand why u keep telling me about India......And I have been very civil what are u talking about?......Bottom line....THere is an Aryan heriatge....but not a Dravidian heritage....ARYAN818 07:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Why should we tolerate mischief, whether Christian or Hindu? What proof would you offer to say that 'the aboriginals, tribals, backwards castes, and untouchables throughout the whole of India (with the exception of Eastern India) are ethnically related to Dravidians (we are still debating as to who the Dravidians are?) of South India'? Language is not the tool to find about people. Do you mean that Kashmir, Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttarkhand, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Orissa, Bengal, and Assam, where the languages are influenced by Sanskrit, are all Aryans? That way, even Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam, and even Tamil carries the Sanskrit influence. Dravida is not a term to classify the non-Aryans of India. That is the mischief. It was the name of a particular people. Of course, non-Aryans were a majority in India. A small number of Aryans came, brought a strong language, brought a wise book, and mingled among the non-Aryans. In the end, they nearly forgot about their Gods and took up the worship of the local Gods, Shiva, Vishnu, Shakti, and a host of other local deities. Hindus did remember some things from the Aryan wise book. It was a give and take. Both prospered. The Aryan ways were saved only in India and hinduism got a wider perspective. The indigenous heritage is just as strong as ever. Aupmanyav 18:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

A people loose their heritage and culture when they take up foreign Gods. Look at Europeans. A large number of them are looking for their pagan past after 1500 years of christianity. They do not remember their Gods, they do not remember the ways of their forefathers. Look at the africans taking up Islam in America in search of their heritage. These are the lost people. Aupmanyav 02:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I will ask you one more time to please be mindful of others faiths. What exactly is the "wise book" and what makes Sanskrit superior to other languages? The way your message sounds like is that before the arrival of the Indo-Aryans the indigenous people spoke a backward language and had not brains. In regards to religion, people are free to choose who they want to follow and whom to worship. Generalizing a whole group of people is wrong. Please use a little more caution an courtesy in regards to to other religious and ethnic groups. Thank you. Wiki Raja 02:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The wise book, of course, the Vedas. Is Sanskrit superior to other languages? A counter question - Why is that a huge percentage of people in the world use IE derived languages? Yes, it sure had something for it to be taken up by people from England to India. Historical circumstances also helped. The indigenous people had enough brains to make the Aryans and many other people from different cultures to accept our ways. Yes, everyone is free to choose his/her belief. But people should not promote untruth and distort history for their belief. I might add, that in our rather unpleasant exchange, we have forgotten the topic of discussion, i.e., who are the Dravidas. Of course, Tamils have the best claim, but what is the proof? I am an Indian, if Hindi is my mother, then Tamil is my mother's sister. Perhaps, you do not understand this. Aupmanyav 18:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Please refrain from personal attacks on myself and on other peoples faiths and ethnicities. This is my last request from you. Thank you. Wiki Raja 23:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Strategy Games

Hi Wiki Raja! I was wondering, looking at your userpage, if you would like to join WikiProject Strategy Games. If you would, just sign up on the page. Happy New Year! | AndonicO 16:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Wiki Raja! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Prodego 02:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

You are going to need to clarify. Does the "Verify Authorization" button light up after you type your username in? Or does it remain greyed out? Prodego 20:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

It remains greyed out. But it works now. Thanks. Wiki Raja 21:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, VandalProof will highlight diffs with User:Lupin/badwords in it in bold when you use the Recent Changes feature (note the recent changes feature defaults to manual updating). Prodego 00:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

What kind of error message? Prodego 03:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, that is odd, you may want to ask AmiDaniel about that, I have not heard that one. Prodego 20:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Spelling British Isles

Thanks for checking the spelling on British Isles but note that the error is followed by the (sic) comment; the misspeling is deliberatly and knowlingly repeated from the source, in order to allow accurate reporting of the quote! --Robdurbar 10:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

ARYAN818

I moved this to User talk:Wiki Raja/ARYAN818. The admin noticeboard is not really the place, it's too long and too detailed. I think what you need is dispute resolution. As far as I can see ARYAN818 is just a bit over-enthusiastic, he's not been attacking people or making threats. You may find that mediation is the best approach. Guy (Help!) 10:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Lupin III userbox

Just reminding you that there is now an official Lupin III userbox in the gallery. - 上村七美 | talk 16:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Dravidian WikiProject

Hi Wiki Raja,

I saw the Dravidian (South Indian) template you created. It came as a pleasant surprise to me since I am planning on forming a Dravidian Wiki Project. Would you be interested in participating? ...

Thanks for your intriguing message. I'm not {{Dravidian topics}}' creator – the history indicates User:Madhava 1947 – so there's another person to try contacting (as they as well as yourself will know far more about Dravidian topics than me!)  As you may've seen already, I've also tried another and hopefully more effective format for the template. The image you found is definitely an improvement; I wonder if there's a version with lighter colors...?

Re creating (and maintaining) a WikiProject: I confess I have no experience here!  My instincts, however, led me here, where the links in the #Creating and maintaining section look like the place to start.

I haven't visited southern India (yet) and only spent a day in Sri Lanka between flights (but a fascinating day!) so my experience of native Dravidian life and culture is also tiny, but if/when you or anyone else in the WikiProject needs non-native help, I'll try to help.

Best wishes, David Kernow (talk) 17:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello David,

Both native and non-native help will be needed:) Not everybody knows about the Dravidian family of ethnicities and languages. Unfortunately, we pretty much hear one sided stories from those who are in the habit of revising history and culture. But, I think that is not new to the rest of the globe. Anyway, since you are an administrator, it will even be of bigger help to the Dravidian Wiki Project since you have more knowledge on how to go about forming a Project on wikipedia and more. Also, another thing is that on Dravidian people and Talk:Dravidian people there have been some vandals and other users changing the info and inserting their POVs on the page. So much so, the Dravidian people page tends to talk more about another family group of ethnicities called the Indo-Arayas. It is sad, why people would do this, also that page has been turned into a propogand page discrediting the Dravidian people's existence. I have added a map and some pictures of indigenous Dravidian Veddas and Australian aboriginals to show the similarities of the two. On the talk page, I have been accused of being an Afro-Centric? My pics were taken off. Instead, someone put a pic of a totally different culture not related to the Dravidian topic with a statement of an ancient Indo-Arya Swastika. Anyways, your help would be of merit. Regards.

Wiki Raja 22:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Something you might try is to present your ideas on a page of your own (User:Wiki Raja/Name of page here) and invite people to visit it via a link on the talk page or talk pages concerned; I reckon there'd then be far stronger grounds to censure anyone who came along and messed about with it (the page itself, I mean, not its own talk page) as it'd be in your userspace. Meanwhile, if it's well-referenced/cited elsewhere that "Indo-Arayans" aren't the same as Dravidians, or that there's a contentious theory that "Indo-Arayans" and Dravidians are "the same", then add and use these references in the article and/or talk page.

Re the {{Dravidian topics}} template:

...I just added a dance section to the list. Also, one more pic has been added. Please let me know if you think that this would be too many picutres, or should we just stick with two pics. Perhaps one pic as an icon?

I reckon two larger-sized pictures (as with the Meenakshi temple and Dravidian map) or four smaller-sized pictures, so long as their combined height isn't greater than the text beside them. At present, the combined height of the temple and dancer pics does look more than the text here (even with the extra string of dance-related links; good addition!) so I'd try reducing the pics' size (and adding a fourth one of similar shape) or, if they start looking too small, return to a two-picture format. Four smaller pics might also make the template look cluttered and/or draw too much attention away from the links – but perhaps not... Since the third picture is already in place, I guess you could find and add a fourth, then consider the result... Yours, David (talk) 02:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

...I have just added martial arts to the list of Dravidian topics on the template. Do you think that this would be too much to have for a template already?

Looks like another good addition to me. I also see you've returned to the two-picture format; now that there's another line of links, I wonder if there might be a more effective layout... I need to work away from the computer for a while now, but when I return I'll look at it again and see what my first thought is!  Thanks for your work, David (talk) 04:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

PS Earlier, I wandered past the Carnatic music article and noticed it didn't include a "listen to" link to an excerpt; plenty seem to be available via the external links, but I don't know who/what might be a good, representative example for a Misplaced Pages excerpt... Any ideas?  (Is there a Carnatic "Mozart" or "Beethoven"...?)

ARYAN818

Unless he can give a convincing reason for his name, he will be blocked. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am shocked by very little these days (I can't see the Chicago Tribune article, you have to register). He's going to be blocked within a week. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Wiki Raja/WikiProject Dravidian Civilizations

Hi Wiki Raja,

I have just created this link. Please let me know if I did this correctly or not. Thanks.

User:Wiki Raja/WikiProject Dravidian Civilizations

The link and the page look fine; I've added my name to the member list. Since Misplaced Pages tends to use sentence-casing (see WP:MoS), I suggest the project's name becomes "WikiProject Dravidian civilizations" – or maybe "WikiProject Dravidian civilization", unless there will be distinctions made and kept between various civilizations. (Or have there been two or more distinct Dravidian civilizations separated in time...?)
Yours, David (talk) 12:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

My talk page

I hope you took the text out of wikipedia into another programme and made those changes all at once using search and replace (Ctrl H or Ctrl F) rather than doing them one by one, SqueakBox 20:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Its not wikipedia as much as replacing large numbers of repeating items. Evne in Microsft Word there is a search and replace button and it would have saved considerable time highlighting isnt, pressing either Ctrl F or Ctrl H and replacing all with isn't in the lower box and pressing replace all. You would only have had to find the first mistake. Well, this si the sort of thing I do in my job, 20:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Testing

Testing... 1... 2... 3...

Wiki Raja 00:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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Dravidian people

I agree with your comments on the talk page of the above-referenced article. The piece is appallingly POV and inaccurate. I've merely skimmed portions and deleted some of the most egregious crap that caught my attention, but it needs serious attention.

I also noted your remarks in Tamil people. Keep up the good work. More of it is needed by others willing to treat such subjects accurately and with objectivity. deeceevoice 06:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep. I know. Kinda creepy -- ain't it? :p Where are you in the world? deeceevoice 06:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah. Me, too. You're far away from home -- and I'm up late, supposedly working on a deadline for a client, but my equipment is on the fritz. :( So, I'm on Misplaced Pages, dealing with ignorance. I'm often fed up with this place, because the website seemingly belongs not to those most knowledgeable about a topic, or even the most objective and rational, but to those most determined to push an often -- in my experience, anyway -- wrongheaded and racist agenda. Well, I've about had my fill for the time being. Think I'm gonna go catch some z's. Peace 2 u. :) deeceevoice 06:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

hey

Buddy much respect, but ur not Tamil. Ur definitely African. We dont want ur Afrocentrism in our Community. If u admire us so much, u can watch Tamil Movies, but stop making us looking Black. We are not Black. Ur POV is not wished

Keep up the good work

I have been looking around at some problems that influence articles I've been working on and came upon your name because you have had related problems. Please keep a calm head, even when dealing with individuals whose voltaic piles are running low. ;-)

I see you are interested in martial arts. I teach a course on "the dao of martial arts," and have structured it mostly around Chinese and Japanese teaching stories (the things that my students will probably never learn from their MA teachers because, being Americans, they don't know them either. I would like to involve materials from other traditions. Steve Barnes wrote a good alternate history science fiction novel that hints at some things in the Sufi tradition, and I was hopeful that I might find some teaching stories from that tradition that would be fairly directly relevant to MA. But I struck out on that one. I am now looking for things in S.E. Asia, particularly Indonesia. Your interests reminded me that there may be teaching stories in other traditions that could be relevant too. The only one I know of is a story that I may have heard from one of my yoga teachers. You probably know it, so forgive me if I get the details wrong. It is the one about a village that is severely troubled by a large cobra. The cobra bites many people. The villagers appeal to a visiting holy man. He speaks to the cobra, telling him to behave himself. He goes off and the villagers are relieved that the cobra no longer bites people. A few years later the holy man comes back by the village and notices the cobra, but the poor beast is in terrible shape. The holy man asks him why he has so many injuries. The cobra explains that since he stopped biting people the people feel free to abuse him. The holy man tells the cobra that he was instructed not to bite people, but he was not told not to hiss.

Do you know of a source of other good teaching stories to prepare young people to be able to defend themselves with a clear mind, without ego, etc.? Thanks. P0M 01:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hey, nice job on Dravidian people and also in yakshagana page. Keep up the good work. I'll contribute as much as I can to that page. Thanks for informing me. Gnanapiti 02:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Asian2duracell

Rather than jump from your user page to mine, I've responded at mine. Hope you don't mind. deeceevoice 13:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

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thanks

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Your spelling correction reminds me that my comments are read by a lot of people, many who I will never meet, and so I should always tuck in my shirt and not make faces on wikipedia.

Thanks. Hope our little mini-edit war, which is thankfully now over, entertained you.

Caveat: If my spelling mistake was fixed by a bot of yours, I now feel like an ass :)

Best wishes, Travb (talk) 08:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Correcting spelling in talk pages (not articles)

I feel I should point this out: while your intention is good and the result is an improvement, it is not considered acceptable to correct other user's spelling on talk pages. From Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines: Don't edit others' comments: Refrain from editing others' comments without their permission (with the exception of prohibited material such as libel and personal details). It is not necessary to bring talk pages to publishing standards, so there is no need to correct typing errors, grammar, etc. It tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Thanks! (But please keep up the good work on article pages!) Notinasnaid 09:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will keep this in mind. Regards. Wiki Raja 09:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. There is in the US and UK a cultural unwillingness to correct people's language, which I think this arises from. In some cultures (e.g. France) it is considered perfectly reasonable to point out another person's language errors. Notinasnaid 10:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

One more question. Would it be safe then to edit (spellcheck) Users pages or pages outside the article namespace? Wiki Raja 10:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

User pages are considered to be very much the user's property, mistakes and all. People can be very annoyed at even the most trivial change (though Misplaced Pages policies do allow or require certain changes). User talk pages are similar to article talk pages; there is some debate about whether users can remove things. I'd recommend sticking to the article namespace, where nobody can object to things being made better! Notinasnaid 10:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. Wiki Raja 10:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing. Katr67 15:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone Deleted my information Unfairly

I was wondering if you could help me. I was working on the article for the James Charles Kopp federal court proceedings and someone who isnt registered and just left an ISP address deleted my update and believe it or not ADDED grammatical errors I had fixed (ie: originally "pictures of aborted" changed into "pictured of aborted". It was all in my own words and I sourced everything correctly. You can see what I mean when you go to the history page and click on the submission I made at 2:35am EST and he made at 2:53am EST and compare versions. I was wondering how do I report this person? I added back in my information but I hope I don't get banned because I have added more than 3 updates today.

Were these IP Addresses 128.227.1.39 and 24.237.52.201? Wiki Raja 11:19, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It was the 128.227.1.39 I have left that person a statement on their user talk page stating that I feel its vandalism to delete accurate info and to CAUSE intentional grammatical errors.

:::Yes, I would suggest the same. If the third option doesn't work and this continues then I would suggest reporting this to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents as a last resort. Wiki Raja 11:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Joseph Clarke

Hi, I just want to let you know that you were correcting a Vandals typo's on Joseph Clarke. I have reverted it all together. --Cloveious 13:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I will keep a more sharper eye out next time. Regards. Wiki Raja 14:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for fixing my typo on Michael Sinclair (soldier) (hey - these little things deserve to be thanked!) -- Qarnos 10:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

VandalSniper

You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. --Chris (talk) 19:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Bad Religion

No big deal, but you fixed a typo in quoted text. I cannot access the source of the quotation at the moment, but given the other bad grammar, it seems probable that the original text contained the typo. Thus, I've reinstated the typo and added to it. -SpuriousQ 00:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. I will keep an eye out for quotes in my future editing. Would you suggest that instead of correcting the typo in the quotes I just add by the word? Regards.

Wiki Raja 00:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's what I tend to do, after verifying the typo is in the original. If there are many errors you can also just put the at the end, or write some note to that effect (see for example ) -SpuriousQ 00:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Wiki Raja 00:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Trammel points

Hello Raja, Thanks for the typo correction. I am curious why you are signed in the front of the article. Does this mean that it has been Wikified? It has been edited several times. --Johnalden 03:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi John,

That is odd how my name got put on top of that page. Anyways, I did go back and removed it. Regards.

Wiki Raja 04:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks for removing your name, it sounds random how it happened. I like your cquote. --Johnalden 13:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Goatopia

Welcome to Misplaced Pages! We welcome your help to create new content, but your recent additions (such as Goatopia) are considered nonsense. Please refrain from creating nonsense articles. If you want to test things out, edit the sandbox instead. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. ⇒ SWATJester 07:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for pointing this out to me, as I am kind of new to editing numerous articles. I will definitely keep in mind the nonsense articles in the future and avoid editing. Regards.

Wiki Raja 07:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Just don't want you wasting your time making minor grammar checks on an article that's going to be speedied anyway. You appear to do good editing, may as well spend your time more effectively on other articles. ⇒ SWATJester 07:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

MedCab Case: Dravidian people article dispute

I have closed the Dravidian people article dispute MedCab Case which you had submitted. I am not disagreeing with your concerns, but it seems that you are having a user conduct dispute and these kinds of issues are not handled by MedCab. You may want to seek the representation of an AMA advocate. Alan.ca 21:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

reply

The Dravida page notes it as Prakrit coming from a Tamil word with a similar meaning to what I gave. That South India is an entity different than North India is obvious. That these are the product of two different races is completely debatable. While the word Aryan has been hijacked by certain people, its not like certain people do "Dravidian" much justice either. Its impossible to deny that the South Indian ethnic groups are different than North Indian ones, but they arent separate. Religion is debatable as well, though there are more Saivites percentagewise in Tamil Nadu, there are huge centers of Saivism in Gujarat, Kashmir, and Bali as well. Also South Indian belief systems mirror mainstream Hinduism as our land was the birthplace of Valmiki, Adi Shankara and other figures.Bakaman 18:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

In regards to your above reply, I will let you first know that I am not here to advocate for any political group whether they be DMK, AIADMK, BJP, RSS, or what not. I am also not hear to advocate nationalism of any kind. What I am interested in is contributing information in regards to the Dravidian civilizations overall in encyclopediatic format covering all aspects from within India and outside of India. I do agree with you that Hindu thought and ideas are credited to the Indo-Aryans. Regards. Wiki Raja 19:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Hinduism articles dont have much on South India other than our kovils. The Shiva article is a mess as well.Bakaman 21:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried working on the Shiva article? Wiki Raja 21:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not religious and am not well versed in legends and religious stories. In regards to "encyclopedic format covering all aspects" I was hoping that this may prove to be a good page for you to make better. Right now many of the Hinduism editors support Aryan818, but it has also been brought to our attention that the Shiva page is a mess. You're killing two birds with one stone there.Bakaman 01:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/User:Asian2duracell

Hello. Can you please go to this page and clarify why you would like a checkuser investigation into the matter? On the behalf of WP:RFCU, ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 20:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)