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'''Argumentation ethics''' is a proposed proof of the ] ] ethic developed in 1988 by ], a Professor Emeritus with the ] College of Business and ] Senior Fellow.<ref name="hanshoppe">{{cite journal |last=Hoppe |first=Hans-Hermann |author2=Murray N. Rothbard|author3=David Friedman|author4=Leland Yeager|author5=David Gordon|author6=Douglas Rasmussen |title=Liberty Symposium |journal=Liberty |date=November 1988 |volume=2 |url=http://www.hanshoppe.com/wp-content/uploads/publications/liberty_symposium.pdf}}</ref> Responses have mainly come from Hoppe's colleagues at the Mises Institute, among whom the argument's reception has been mixed.<ref name="blog.mises">{{cite web|last=Kinsella|first=Stephan|title=Revisiting Argumentation Ethics|url=http://archive.mises.org/9610/revisiting-argumentation-ethics/|work=Mises Economics Blog|publisher=]|authorlink=Stephan Kinsella|date=March 13, 2009|quote= number of thinkers weighed in, including ], ... ], ... ], ... ], ... ], ... ], ...], and others....}}</ref>
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Argumentation ethics aims to prove that arguing against the right-wing interpretation of ] is not logically coherent. Hoppe states that if argumentation ] presupposes the norm that both the speaker and the listener are allowed to exercise exclusive control over their respective physical bodies in order to settle a disagreement or resolve a conflict over scarce resources, then it follows that propositions propounded during such argumentation cannot contradict this norm without falling into a (]) ] between one's actions and words. Thus Hoppe concludes that despite violations against self-ownership and private property being possible, it can not be argumentatively justified. While argumentative ethics is actually a ], Hoppe did not define the term.<ref name="hanshoppe2">{{cite journal |last=Hoppe |first=Hans-Hermann |title=The Ultimate Justification of Private Property |journal=Liberty |date=September 1988 |volume=1|page=20 |url=http://www.hanshoppe.com/wp-content/uploads/publications/hoppe_ult_just_liberty.pdf}}</ref>

==Foundation==
Hoppe states that his theory is an ], ] ] argument for ] ].<ref name="hanshoppe" /> Argumentation ethics asserts the recognition of self-ownership is a ] of every argument and so cannot be logically denied during an argument. Argumentation ethics draws on ideas from ]'s and ]'s ], from ] praxeology and from the ] of ].

Hoppe first notes that when two parties are in conflict with one another they can, eventually, choose to resolve the conflict by one of two means. Engaging in violence, or engaging in honest argumentation. In the event that they choose argumentation, Hoppe asserts that the parties must have implicitly rejected violence as a way to resolve their conflict. That is, both participants agree that each one has to exercise exclusive control over their body parts in order to produce and perceive meaningful sentences. He therefore concludes that non-violence is one of the underlying norms (]) of meaningful argumentation that is accepted by both participants.

Hoppe states that since both parties act to propound propositions in the course of such argumentation, and because argumentation must presuppose certain norms (that he specifies, non-violence among them), then the content of the propositions cannot negate the presupposed propositions of argumentation. To do so is a ] between one's actions and one's words.<ref name="hanshoppe2"/>

==Deriving the private property ethic from the presuppositions of argumentation==
Argumentation ethics aims to show the private property ethic (in a certain formulation) follows from the presuppositions of argumentation, and so it cannot be denied.

Other than dismissing propositions calling for violence as means to resolve conflict, Hoppe also argues that only ] norms are consistent with such meaningful argumentation, as, he claims, arbitrary categorical distinctions have no intersubjective ], which also must be a presupposition of such argumentation. Hoppe then also argues that since argumentation requires the active use of one's body, all universal norms for resolving conflicts over the human body aside from ] are inconsistent with argumentation, as they would not allow one to independently move.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://archive.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe7.html |title=Rothbardian Ethics |first=Hans-Hermann |last=Hoppe|date=20 May 2002 |publisher=] |accessdate=6 February 2012}}</ref> Hoppe then argues that since the resolution of conflicts over external resources must also be objectively justifiable, only the physical establishment of an objective link by original ] (i.e., ]) is a norm compatible with such a requirement. From these Hoppe concludes that only the private property ethic can be justified in an argument without contradiction.<ref>. Hans Hoppe</ref>

==Punishment and self-defense==
Bearing reference to the ] of ], ]'s "Dialogical Estoppel" theory extends argumentation ethics by considering an argument between a victim and aggressor. Kinsella argues that an aggressor cannot consistently object to being proportionally punished for his act of aggression, by the victim or by the victim's representatives, because by committing aggression he commits himself to the proposition that the use of force is legitimate, and therefore, his withholding consent based on a normative right not to be physically harmed contradicts his aggressive legitimation of force, i.e. he is "estopped" from withholding consent.<ref>. N.S. Kinsella</ref>

==Responses from scholars==
Various responses to Hoppe's argument came from Mises Institute scholars.<ref name="blog.mises" /> Some of them accepted his argument, among them attorney ]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=312 |title=Defending Argumentation Ethics: Reply to Murphy & Callahan |last=Kinsella |first=Stephan |date=19 September 2002 |publisher=Anti-State.com |accessdate=9 February 2012}}</ref> and economists ] and ],<ref name=anarcho-lockean>{{cite web |url=https://mises.org/daily/4629 |title=Beyond Is and Ought |first=Murray N. |last=Rothbard |date=November 1988|publisher=] |accessdate=14 October 2012}}</ref> who called it "a dazzling breakthrough for political philosophy in general and for libertarianism in particular," adding "he has managed to transcend the famous is/ought, fact/value dichotomy that has plagued philosophy since the days of the Scholastics..."<ref name=anarcho-lockean/>

Mises Institute economists ] and ] rejected Hoppe's argument.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Murphy |first1=Robert P. |last2=Callahan |first2=Gene |date=Spring 2006 |title=Hans-Hermann Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics: A Critique |journal=] |volume=20 |issue=2 |pages=53–6 |doi= |url=https://mises.org/journals/jls/20_2/20_2_3.pdf |accessdate=9 February 2012 }}</ref> The late ] David Osterfeld, an adjunct scholar at the Mises Institute, also rejected Hoppe's argument in an essay to which Hoppe subsequently responded.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hanshoppe.com/wp-content/uploads/publications/osterfeld_hoppe.pdf |title=Comment on Hoppe / Comment on Osterfeld |last= |first= |year= 1988 |publisher=Austrian Economics Newsletter |accessdate=14 October 2012}}</ref> Walter Block has since defended the argument<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://mises.org/system/tdf/22_1_31.pdf?file=1&type=document |title=Archived copy |access-date=2015-09-05 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160306160124/https://mises.org/system/tdf/22_1_31.pdf?file=1&type=document |archive-date=2016-03-06 |url-status=dead }}</ref> and Marian Eabrasu rebuts a wide range of criticisms.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://libertarianpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/article/2009/lp-1-20.pdf |title=Article |publisher=libertarianpapers.org |date=2009 |accessdate=2019-12-27}}</ref>

Ludwig Von Mises Institute Senior Fellow and Auburn University philosopher ] reconstructed the argument in ] form, specifying four premises on whose truth the argument's soundness depends. Long goes on to argue that each premise is either uncertain, doubtful, or clearly false. He summarizes his views by stating:{{quote|I don’t think there's any reason to reject out of hand the kind of argument that Hoppe tries to give; on the contrary, the idea that there might be some deep connection between libertarian rights and the requirements of rational discourse is one I find attractive and eminently plausible. But I am not convinced that the specific argument Hoppe gives us is successful.<ref>{{cite web|last=Long|first=Roderick T.|authorlink=Roderick Long|title=The Hopperiori Argument|url=http://praxeology.net/unblog05-04.htm#10}}</ref>}}

A political theorist has concluded in a doctoral dissertation on the political philosophy of several Austrian economists that Hoppe has not provided any non-circular reasons why we "have to regard moral values as something that ''must'' be regarded as being established through (consensual) argument instead of 'mere' subjective preferences for situations turning out in certain ways". In other words, the theory relies on "the existence certain intuitions, the acceptance of which cannot itself be the result of 'value-free' reasoning."<ref>J. Mikael Olsson, ''Austrian Economics as Political Philosophy'', Stockholm Studies in Politics 161, p. 157, 161.</ref>

Mainstream libertarian philosophers reject Hoppe’s argument. ] argues:{{quote| For the sake of argument, on Hoppe’s behalf, grant that by saying “I propose such and such,” I take myself to have certain rights over myself. I take myself to have some sort of right to say, “I propose such and such.” I also take you to have some sort of right to control over your own mind and body, to control what you believe. (Nota bene: I don’t think Hoppe can even get this far, but I’m granting him this for the sake of argument.). All I need to avoid a performative contradiction is for me to have a liberty right to say, ‘I propose such and such.’ I need not presuppose I have a claim right to say ‘I propose such and such.’ Instead, at most, I presuppose that it’s permissible for me to say, ‘I propose such and such’. I also at most presuppose that you have a liberty right to believe what I say. I do not need to presuppose that you have a claim right to believe what I say. However, libertarian self-ownership theory consists of claim rights… Hoppe’s argument illicitly conflates a ], and so fails.”<ref>{{cite web|author=Jason Brennan |url=https://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2013/12/hoppes-argumentation-ethics-argument-refuted-in-under-60-seconds/ |title=Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics Argument Refuted in Under 60 Seconds |publisher=Bleeding Heart Libertarians |date=2013-12-12 |accessdate=2019-12-27}}</ref>}}

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==Further reading==
* {{cite journal|last=Van Dun|first=Frank|title=Argumentation ethics and the philosophy of freedom|journal=Libertarian Papers|date=January 1, 2009|url=https://www.questia.com/read/1G1-201551105|accessdate=May 8, 2013|authorlink=Frank Van Dun}}
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