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| *'''Delete''' I just looked at all the source search options. Images shows an unrelated military figure, articles show one article featuring the subject from a local news source. Other source searches show up with zero information. Looking at the article It doesn't seem like the subject is notable according to Misplaced Pages standards. I would argue for keep if there were more notable credits to his name. Just my two cents. ] 09:50, 29 October 2021 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' I just looked at all the source search options. Images shows an unrelated military figure, articles show one article featuring the subject from a local news source. Other source searches show up with zero information. Looking at the article It doesn't seem like the subject is notable according to Misplaced Pages standards. I would argue for keep if there were more notable credits to his name. Just my two cents. ] 09:50, 29 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
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Does not appear to have had any really major roles; a lot of minor ones--mostly as figures in minor documentaries-- doesn't make for a notable actor. I don't see that any of the references discusses him in a substantial way--they're reviews of the minor films which, naturally mention him . DGG ( talk ) 02:31, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:51, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:51, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Hi. You have already met me in person here in NYC, so you know I can't be him in an Asian skin. So the "closely connected" accusation is FALSE to begin with. Happy to meet you again per Misplaced Pages:Meetup/NYC - Misplaced Pages. I submit to you that maybe he wasn't written extensively like other Irish actors such as Liam Neeson, Colin Farrell, Pierce Brosnan, etc. Maybe he was shy or hasn't attracted the attention. I don't know because I don't know the guy. But his long list of works speak to his Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) - Misplaced Pages regarding the two requirement laid down. This has been argued extensively on the talk page and on my talk page if not else where. There are sock puppets who have intentionally made disruptive editing that have been caught and blocked. Respectfully, I hope we could dedicate our time and energy on something more meaningful instead of this. Plus, correction on facts. He was never in any documentary film. Thanks for your time and consideration. Supermann (talk) 12:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable actor with minor roles. Fails WP:NACTOR as well general notable guidelines. Supermann did Hogan has played any lead role? If yes, please specify which one as I failed to find any significant role at the moment. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- It's right there in the article/filmography. Two film roles: Hogan played Sky Marshall Omar Anoke in science-fiction film Starship Troopers 3: Marauder...He played the lead role of Adam Smith in Iraq war drama Kingdom of Dust: The Beheading of Adam Smith. And then three lead roles in theaters: Mad as Hell (2018), Possible Worlds (2002), 1999 (Fast Food). You are not even reading the guidelines correctly. As I had said before, if you have difficulties accessing the world class libraries electronically, I am happy to upload the printout so that everybody can verify the theater roles are lead roles. But more importantly, you should just watch the movies that are widely accessible. I see you can speak Hindi. Have you seen his performance in Sardar Udham? I am not saying that is a lead role, but once you compare the aforementioned two with his role in Sardar, you can tell what a lead role is. Thanks. Supermann (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Making claims do not verify his roles. It needs reliable sources to support the claims. As I can see, the subject has played zero lead roles. The guidelines are very simple.
WP:NACTOR: 1. Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions;
or
2 Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- With all due respect, I don't know whether you can't count or I can't. Multiple is defined by many dictionary out there as "consisting of, including, or involving more than 1." For example, Multiple | Definition of Multiple by Merriam-Webster. Here he has 5. What I do know is you and I have ZERO. His long list of filmography shows he is prolific. You can say it's not unique/innovative, but the guideline is simple. It's either or. Thanks. Supermann (talk) 19:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Which source(s) indicate his lead roles? Please provide here so that we can better understand your sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:43, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Before we get bogged down in lead role, let's recall the guideline doesn't even use the term. The guideline instead uses "significant roles." So I am not gonna go down this rabbit hole, when the answers you seek are on the filmography by ctrl+f finding "lead role" - an imprecise term used by others. You at least should see those two aforementioned movies that are widely accessible. Supermann (talk) 19:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Please assume good faith. You are requested to provide sources here that indicates "significant roles" of the subject than making false claims regarding a WP:COI page. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:54, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Off-topic but you could be more respectful to @TheBirdsShedTears:, your comments are a little passive aggressive. deity 10:04, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- People with true good faith would not come on Misplaced Pages after 20+ days and start commenting on deletion. I have never done so in my 15 years here, because I hope to inform readers. You are not a Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppetry, are you? One notorious editor who touched on this topic has been caught. They are User:Dollyplay and User:Sleptlapps and User:Nyxaros2. I hope you are not one of them. Supermann (talk) 13:53, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Well I was reading on Starship Troopers and went down a rabbit hole and it led me here. Just trying to help out man no need to get aggressive deity 14:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I hope you at least find time to watch the pentalogy of the Starship Troopers (franchise) before embarking on a deletionist path. Then I will truly believe you have good faith and are informed. Have a good weekend. Supermann (talk) 15:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- All the films after the first were pretty awful deity 01:01, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- In that case, why don't you become a writer/director and reboot the entire franchise? It's not like you could otherwise time travel and delete 2/3/4/5 from history. And cancelling Stephen Hogan would gratify you and make you feel less awful?? His rendition of the theme song in 3 has brought the militarism in 1 to an all time high level. For that reason, I want readers not to be deprived of the opportunities to read about the actor on wikipedia. We agree to disagree. Supermann (talk) 05:15, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Well the article can't really be improved further. That's not "cancelling" it's literally Misplaced Pages guidelines deity 06:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- While you are being negative, I actually improved it in my honest opinion, thanks to new coverage by the Dublin Live. Your research skill is impressive. Supermann (talk) 00:57, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- I am quite impressive in many aspects deity 11:08, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- While you are being negative, I actually improved it in my honest opinion, thanks to new coverage by the Dublin Live. Your research skill is impressive. Supermann (talk) 00:57, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Well the article can't really be improved further. That's not "cancelling" it's literally Misplaced Pages guidelines deity 06:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- In that case, why don't you become a writer/director and reboot the entire franchise? It's not like you could otherwise time travel and delete 2/3/4/5 from history. And cancelling Stephen Hogan would gratify you and make you feel less awful?? His rendition of the theme song in 3 has brought the militarism in 1 to an all time high level. For that reason, I want readers not to be deprived of the opportunities to read about the actor on wikipedia. We agree to disagree. Supermann (talk) 05:15, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- All the films after the first were pretty awful deity 01:01, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I hope you at least find time to watch the pentalogy of the Starship Troopers (franchise) before embarking on a deletionist path. Then I will truly believe you have good faith and are informed. Have a good weekend. Supermann (talk) 15:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Well I was reading on Starship Troopers and went down a rabbit hole and it led me here. Just trying to help out man no need to get aggressive deity 14:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- People with true good faith would not come on Misplaced Pages after 20+ days and start commenting on deletion. I have never done so in my 15 years here, because I hope to inform readers. You are not a Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppetry, are you? One notorious editor who touched on this topic has been caught. They are User:Dollyplay and User:Sleptlapps and User:Nyxaros2. I hope you are not one of them. Supermann (talk) 13:53, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Before we get bogged down in lead role, let's recall the guideline doesn't even use the term. The guideline instead uses "significant roles." So I am not gonna go down this rabbit hole, when the answers you seek are on the filmography by ctrl+f finding "lead role" - an imprecise term used by others. You at least should see those two aforementioned movies that are widely accessible. Supermann (talk) 19:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Which source(s) indicate his lead roles? Please provide here so that we can better understand your sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:43, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I just looked at all the source search options. Images shows an unrelated military figure, articles show one article featuring the subject from a local news source. Other source searches show up with zero information. Looking at the article It doesn't seem like the subject is notable according to Misplaced Pages standards. I would argue for keep if there were more notable credits to his name. Just my two cents. deity 09:50, 29 October 2021 (UTC)