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Your GA nomination of Fez, Morocco

The article Fez, Morocco you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Fez, Morocco for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mertbiol -- Mertbiol (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Brian Tudor Speedy Deletion https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Brian_Tudor

Are you a card trick expert?

I am an avid fan of specialty card tricks and when I found that wikipedia had articles about it I was surprised to find that they didn't have a profile for one of my very favorite magicians. How does Lee Asher, Chris Kenner, Daniel and David Buck - Dan and Dave who all worked with him have pages, yet he does not?

He is mentioned in several articles as the creator of the genre:

] (Multiple mentions) ] ]

The authority on card flourishes, Jerry Cestkowski said in his book, Tudor had "very, very good flourish cuts and some unbelievable false flourish cuts." (http://docshare.tips/the-encyclopedia-of-playing-card-flourishes_587545e9b6d87f86848b49f5.html )

This is the single most prolific producer of card flourishing publications, how does that still not make him notable?

I was asked for more independent sources to confirm his notability, the article lists that he is cited as notable by:

1. Vanity Fair 2. Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes 3. Urban Dictionary 4. Genii Magazine 5. Magic Magazine 6. DecemberBoys.com.ua 7. Bicycle Playing Card website 8. "Flash Cards with Jerry Cestkowski" podcast

There are 27 total references. I was told I needed seven, and now I have plenty more, how many do I need to satisfy you? Chris Kenner has much fewer and has his own article.

I am in contact with the cited noble contributors such as David Copperfield, Chris Kenner, and Dave and Dan, but they all don't understand why the draft would be rejected.

Do you have any tips to help me accomplish this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CardistryExpert (talkcontribs) 01:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @CardistryExpert, first things first, what is your affiliation with Brian Tudor? Have you been paid to write this article? Considering you say you're in contact with several people in the magic world, it seems you may have a possible conflict of interest. Wikimedia's terms of use require you to disclose any conflict of interest, especially paid editing. ––FormalDude talk 01:20, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

I am not affiliated with him, just a fan, but I have asked Chris Kenner, etc. through social media channels and they believe he should have his own page, being integral to the inception and adoption of cardistry techniques. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CardistryExpert (talkcontribs) 23:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

@CardistryExpert About the draft, please ensure that all your sources are reliable, and please read Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources, an article should only need two quality sources that provide significant coverage to be accepted. If you are unsure what counts as a reliable source, please check if there's a discussion about your source up on WP:RSPS.
This is a draft about a living person, one of the hardest to article types to get right due to it's stringent requirements for the quality of source. If you intend on making positive contributions on Misplaced Pages, I would strongly suggest you edit elsewhere for a while to gain a stronger understanding of Misplaced Pages, then come come back to it when you are more experienced. Justiyaya 23:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

I submitted more than two quality sources, Vanity Fair and Genii Magazine are mainstream sources that are well respected in the industry and elsewhere as reliable and independent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CardistryExpert (talkcontribs) 00:20, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

@CardistryExpert Significant coverage? Justiyaya 05:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the Vanity Fair article details how he was the pioneer of this unique style and influenced many magicians (who are notable with their own wikipedia pages,) and they all follow and support him on social media.

Vanity Fair has paragraphs on his contributions: 'When the Bucks were 13, they became mesmerized by a VHS instructional tape called “Show Off” in which a performer named Brian Tudor taught eye-popping cuts with playing cards... one-handed cuts broken into three packets, with the third twisting an added 180 revolution. Eyes sufficiently bugged out, the Bucks fell down a rabbit hole.' 'Brian Tudor’s VHS tape “Show Off”... a card move called “The Five Faces of Sybil,” described as “a quick cut flourish to demonstrate skill and dexterity.” Using all available fingers, Sybil divides a deck of cards into five distinct stacks, resembling staircases in an Escher print. can deftly perform Sybil the way guitarists can run through a blues progression."

Genii Magazine: "the flourishes, amazing multiple in-the-hands cuts and shuffles, are being performed (in real time) by a 19-year-old mere mortal by the name of Brian Tudor.") and Magic magazines

@CardistryExpert See comment on Draft:Brian Tudor by Worldbruce Justiyaya 06:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. Pang, Kevin (2015-04-21). "72 Hours Inside the Eye-Popping World of Cardistry". Vanity Fair Blogs. Retrieved 2021-10-09.
  2. "Show Off Review July 2000 Genii_Vol_63_Issue_7_Page_79". edocr.com. Retrieved 2021-10-26.
  3. "Genii Volume 64 (2001) by Richard Kaufman". Lybrary.com. Retrieved 2021-10-28.
  4. "Genii Volume 66 (2003) by Richard Kaufman". Lybrary.com. Retrieved 2021-10-28.
  5. "Magic Magazine 2000 by Stan Allen". Lybrary.com. Retrieved 2021-10-28.


Question about WP:NONAZI

Thanks for your suggestion over at Misplaced Pages talk:No Nazis. I struck the notice as you suggested. Honestly I was unsure if it was the appropriate venue, but I do now have a question: apart from ANI, is there a place where I can seek additional input when it seems to me that one or another of the bright lines described on NONAZI have been crossed? In this case it seems clear that editors were explicitly arguing that white people are more intelligent than non-whites, ie.e item #1 of the WP:RACISTBELIEFS section, which appears to be the kind of action for which NONAZIS warns editors who come here to push this fringe point of view in articles, under the guise of the neutral point of view policy, are typically blocked as POV pushers. Have I misunderstood the purpose of the essay or the consensus behind it? It seems I must have, but I'm unsure now what I'm meant to do when it appears that NONAZIS is being brazenly overstepped. Generalrelative (talk) 02:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Generalrelative: no problem, I appreciate you striking the comment.
Since it's just an essay, it can be easily construed as canvassing those with similar opinions as you to a discussion. Currently the best place to raise those types of concerns would most likely be at Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard. I don't think you've misunderstood the purpose of the essay, but possibly you have misunderstood the consensus behind it. Essays are not policies nor guidelines and as such don't carry the same weight as them. While it appears a majority of the community supports this particular essay, it is still just an essay.
If there's editors who you think are blatantly violating the spirit of Misplaced Pages, you can do as the essay suggests and report them to WP:ANI. ––FormalDude 03:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks very much, FormalDude. I will keep this in mind. Generalrelative (talk) 04:07, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
@Generalrelative: happy to help. You may have seen my suggestion on the talk page to start an RfC for this. Often that's a good way to get more editors involved and on the record, and it makes it easier for a consensus to form. Up to you though of course. ––FormalDude 04:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate the suggestion, and would of course participate. But I'd prefer to let those seeking to alter the article decided how they want to frame the question. There is so much bad blood in that topic area among those who are salty about the existing consensus that I fear any RfC I were to frame would be decried as biased in some way and wouldn't actually end debate. Not sure if you've been following shenanigans at ArbCom but these folks truly do not drop sticks, even in the face of overwhelming consensus. Generalrelative (talk) 05:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Hella gay userbox

Hi, cool userbox, but I just wanted to point out that for some reason it has a bit of whitespace in front of it which makes it not align with any other userboxes and that just really bothers the designer in me.

I've been listening to a lot of Protest the Hero the last few days. May not be your cup of tea (pun intended) but you asked to share so here we are.

--CupOfTea696 (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@CupOfTea696: Yeah, it's driving me a bit insane too. I can't figure out what's causing it though; I've been tinkering with it for a while. Probably need a programmer to help lol. And thanks for the suggestion! Feel free to add one or more of your favorite songs of theirs to my list. ––FormalDude 03:05, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
@CupOfTea696: The wonderful Eviolite was able to fix it! 🎉 ––FormalDude 03:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
@FormalDude: Awesome news! Glad you got it sorted :) —CupOfTea696 (talk) 13:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the music! The Polyphia song is really cool. ––FormalDude 13:37, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended Confirmed confirmation

Hello again! I wanted to ask you a question as you've been super helpful for me in the past. I do believe my account has reach 500 edits and is more than 30 days old. Is there any process that can grant me extended confirmed user status? I suppose it really isn't a huge deal, I just wanted to inquire about it. Thanks again for all you've done to help me out as I find my niche, I've been having a great time getting acclimated to the site. Spf121188 (talk) 15:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that, it looks like it updated automatically. My apologies for cluttering your talk page! Spf121188 (talk) 15:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)The extended confirmed process happens automatically as soon as you have the required number of edits and account age. You don't need to specifically apply or ask for it. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Capitol Attack

Moved to Talk:2021 United States Capitol attack § Dispute over two categories

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HI

I have more reference relate Nadeem Naushad which I submitted and and rejected due to not enogh reference. Can I re-submit again with more reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bijukunhappa (talkcontribs) 04:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Bijukunhappa: What are the additional references? ––FormalDude 08:27, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

RfC on WSJ Talk Page

Hey, I checked the archive for the previous RfC on the talk page, and it was archived without being closed. Someone started a new RfC, with some previously uninvolved editors, and it is currently being discussed on the talk page. Thought you might want to know, since you voted in the previous one. Bill Williams 01:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

@Bill Williams: Thanks for the notice, appreciate it. ––FormalDude 08:52, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
No problem, and thanks for working things out on the Kenosha article. Bill Williams 08:53, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Close of Brake check AfD

I very strongly disagree with this close; a plurality of !votes were to keep the article, as the !votes to merge were divided on which article to merge to. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:24, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@GhostOfDanGurney: Stronger policy-based arguments were made in favor of merging. It's not a ballot. ––FormalDude 08:35, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
The only policy-based argument on either side that I see is a !vote to merge to Road rage and not Tailgating, though...? GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:47, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
As someone who believes that the subject can be expanded on, it'd be easier for me to write about the subject within an article on Road rage than one on Tailgating. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:54, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
@GhostOfDanGurney: My closure does not prevent you from still doing that. ––FormalDude 09:48, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
I feel that this would now require an RfD, unless you can assure me that no one would call it disruptive to BOLDly retarget the redirect to Road rage. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 16:07, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi FormalDude. Could you please elaborate on the relevant policy(s) which were cited by users advocating merger with tailgating? As far as I can tell, clear arguments AGAINST such a merger were made, but not refuted. I'm struggling to understand how you came to your decision on consensus here. A7V2 (talk) 11:37, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
    @A7V2: Notability guidelines. The topic was not notable for a standalone article. ––FormalDude 07:51, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
    Speaking for myself, I can't say that I'm satisfied by this elaboration; you still haven't addressed why the decision was made to merge to Tailgating and not Road rage. Neither of the two !votes to merge to Tailgating cited a wikipedia policy and the nominator themself wasn't even concerned about notability. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 15:27, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Class III transposable elements

Hello FormalDude. The 'draft': Some scientists also distinguish a third category of transposable elements. Class III TEs have been described as "a grab-bag consisting of transposons that don't clearly fit into the other two categories". Examples include Foldback (FB) elements, TU elements, and Miniature Inverted-repeat Transposable Elements. References: Capy P (1998). Dynamics and evolution of transposable elements. New York: Chapman & Hall. ISBN 978-3-540-61190-5 (definition of Class III elements + examples); Boutanaev AM, Osbourn AE (July 2018). "Multigenome analysis implicates miniature inverted-repeat transposable elements (MITEs) in metabolic diversification in eudicots". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America. 115 (28): E6650–E6658. doi:10.1073/pnas.1721318115. PMC 6048515. PMID 29941591 (MITEs as Class III TEs); Kaminker JS, Bergman CM, Kronmiller B, Carlson J, Svirskas R, Patel S, Frise E, Wheeler DA, Lewis SE, Rubin GM, Ashburner M, Celniker SE (2002). "The transposable elements of the Drosophila melanogaster euchromatin: a genomics perspective". Genome Biology. 3 (12): RESEARCH0084. doi:10.1186/gb-2002-3-12-research0084. PMC 151186. PMID 12537573 ("Foldback (FB) elements, which are characterized by their property of reannealing after denaturation with zero-order kinetics, are quite distinct from prototypical class I or II elements…"); Baez J (2005). "Subcellular Life Forms" (PDF) (review of P. Capy's scientific book + examples). Could you add it to the Misplaced Pages article re. transposable elements (TEs), please? If necessary, please feel free to make further changes, additions and adjustments. Thanks a lot! :-) Kind regards, --Pinoczet (talk) 18:30, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Brake check

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