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User:86.175.111.238 reported by User:FlightTime (Result:Blocked by Drmies )

User being reported: 86.175.111.238 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

23:22, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Legacy */Revert unexplained and unhelpful edit"
22:40, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Legacy */As used by the themselves. This is official. This trumps whatever Misplaced Pages considers correct"
Consecutive edits made from 22:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC) to 22:33, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
1. 22:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Personal life */What does 'putting him through college' mean?"
2. 22:33, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Legacy */The Corra use a capital (see their website) and is also widely use elsewhere"
22:25, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Legacy */Has a capital"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

22:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "General note: Formatting, date, language, etc (Manual of style) on Stevie Nicks."
22:38, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Formatting, date, language, etc (Manual of style) on Stevie Nicks."
22:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "/* February 2022 */ Well, not here"
22:49, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "+ {{ow}}"
22:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Stevie Nicks‎."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

IP's comment at AIV - FlightTime (open channel) 23:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Blocked – for a period of 72 hours by Drmies for violation of MOS:THEBAND - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 18:11, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

User:197.89.19.211 reported by User:Chip3004 (Result: Warned)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:

Comments: This is has been going on since February 4, and it is Edit Warring by the ip

You neglected to mention that I was the one who started the discussion on the article's talk page. And, read the sentence the way you prefer it. It is the longest-running professional wrestling event in history. That can only mean one thing. I tried rewording it, to correct it. And, for whatever reason, you prefer it to sound like WrestleMania 1 is still happening. But I won't bother trying to correct very badly worded articles like that again. So, you "win", for what that's worth. And anyway, I'm off to MSG now to watch the still-running WrestleMania 1. 197.89.19.211 (talk) 08:51, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

The IP is warned that if they resume editing at the article, they risk being blocked without further notice. Your aggressive/attacking style is separately sanctionable, and you have been blocked before for it. Chip3004, reports here require diffs, not links. Your presentation forced me to do all the work myself. Also, your messaging at the IP's Talk page is dreadful. First, with the exception of one edit that was reverted by ClueBot, the IP's edits were not vandalism. Second, you insisted on repeating messages after the IP removed them, which was their right. Third, you double-messaged making the IP's Talk page a mess, all of which they blanked.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:07, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

User:JimmyCrow reported by User:RossButsy (Result: )

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1069864778:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1070260937:

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1070260937

Comments:

User has been blocked for edit warring and disruptive editing before and is seemingly unwilling to engage in discussion.

User:Loverofediting reported by User:Apaugasma (Result: )

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:

Comments:

User was blocked for edit warring on the same page before. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 20:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Loverofediting reported by User:Apaugasma (Result: EC protection)

User being reported: Loverofediting (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

21:06, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "See talk page. Removed baseless opinion."
19:52, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "“Tide turned” is baseless and incorrect. Please read what I wrote on the Talk page."
19:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Removed a baseless opinion that the “tide turned”."
19:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Not a fact. An opinion."
18:17, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Tide turned? Not a fact."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

20:15, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "/* The intro */ reply"

Comments:

Says "See talk page" after not replying to talk page comment. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 21:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Disruption continues . Requested temporary EC protection at RPP in case they get to this first. Thanks, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 19:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Where are the admins:/ This has been here for 24 hours now. AhmadLX-(Wikiposta) 19:27, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Result: Page EC protected three months. EdJohnston (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Asfedayn reported by User:Atlantic306 (Result: No violation)

User being reported: Asfedayn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts: This is the first change here, their first revert of my restore here, this is their second revert of my restore here which is the present iteration. Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: We had a discussion on their talk page my main point here. Although I was incorrect in suggesting a pro-Pallotta coi when they have now shown to be very critical of him in regard to his interests at AC Roma.diff

Comments:

User:Asfedaynan spa removed referenced material from Boston magazine that Pallotta is a billionnaire changing it to millionnaire. I ve reverted twice theyve reinserted twice and I don't want to go to three. Ive tried a discussion on their userpage but it became ill-tempered. Atlantic306 (talk) 00:58, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

No violation – The same issue was raised in another report. See my closure there. Both sides should consider following WP:Dispute resolution. EdJohnston (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

User:DudeFromTheBaltics reported by User:Moxy (Result: EC protection)

User being reported: DudeFromTheBaltics (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

02:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "I still don't understand why do you all want Latvia look like a Russian state. I bet, add this also to Estonia, since they also have a lot of Russian speakers. This literally makes me angry by knowing how biased some of the editors are."
01:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "Excuse me, are you threatening me to ban, because I said this one guy to stop posting in Latvia's wikipedia page that Latvia's minority language is Russian? Latvian constitutional law doesn't put Russian as the minority language and by that I will stand. Also, you should put this exact sentence to Estonia and Lithuania, not only Latvia. Don't threaten me, this is 💕 after all, and I will work to put it as neutral as possible."
20:56, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1070312450 by Denis tarasov This source doesn't show Russian is a minority language. Stop this or I'll have to report this as vandalism(talk)"
20:32, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1070307023 by Denis tarasov Why you're adding this to only Latvia? There are more than one language. Also your sources doesn't say about Russian language. (talk)"
19:19, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1070269734 by Denis tarasov Unsourced data (talk)"
16:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1070125027 by Denis tarasov Unsourced data (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

01:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Latvia."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

02:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Russian language in infobox */ new section"

Comments:

Having no luck in getting editors to talk about edits. Moxy- 02:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Result: The Latvia article is EC protected indefinitely under authority of WP:ARBEE. EdJohnston (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Atlantic306 reported by User:Asfedayn (Result: No violation)

User being reported: Atlantic306 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts: This is the first change I made here, here, After Atlantic306 reverted the change this is the second time I edited the information here which is the present iteration. Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: We had a discussion on my talk page my main point here. Regrettably, the discussion was almost immediately made personal by Atlantic306, given almost right away I was accused of having a conflict of interest. Other instances, such as "I am not your mate" further heighten the suspicion that the edit was mistakenly taken personally, when that was not at all the intention of the edit. Even in the report, Atlantic306 seems to suggest an undermining of my position as just someone critical of Pallotta, which again, ignored all the arguments put forward - see below. As I stated on many occasions, the core of the inquiry is on accuracy and truthfulness, which is not personal. I tried to put forward many reasons for why using the word "billionaire" was inaccurate and misleading, but as evidenced by the discussion, all of the arguments were ignored. I tried informing Atlantic306 that the source is an old article from a 2006 issue of the Boston Magazine, which cannot consider the 2009 crisis in which Pallotta lost most of his assets. Further, I pointed out that the magazine itself offered no source or evidence of where how the information was obtained. I tried to inform Atlantic306 that Pallotta is also not present on the Forbes list, which was ultimately ignored as well. While the source might have been accurate over 15 years ago, currently it would be dangerously misleading to suggest Pallotta is a "billionaire" without any evidence of it. I believe we should strive to put out accurate and truthful information, which was the point of my edit - regrettably, an edit war was initiated by Atlantic306 because presumably the edit was taken as a personal attack and no efforts were made in trying to resolve the issue, other than personal attacks such as the insinuation of a conflict of interest.

Comments:

User:Atlantic306 continued to revert that Pallotta is a billionnaire, despite evidence to the contrary. I have tried a discussion on my userpage but as shown above and by the discussion itself, it was made personal by Atlantic306 and, at least presumably, never entered with a bona fide intent to come to a resolution, as the attacks and ignoring of arguments regrettably confirm. Asfedayn (talk) 6:50, 6 February 2022 (PTC)

I have not edit-warred or I wouldn't have kept your version. As for you calling me a mate that was not sincere and I haven't attacked you in any way at all,Atlantic306 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

As can be seen by the searches on the talkpage there is recent coverage that calls him a billionnaire and there is also some coverage that calls him a millionnaire so it is not a clear cut case you have suggested, Atlantic306 (talk) 03:05, 7 February 2022 (UTC) Asking if you have a coi is common practice if you have only edited his article and saying you were critical of him as shown here is not a criticism, just stating the facts. Also I have no coi myself, Atlantic306 (talk) 03:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

No violation – I encourage further discussion on Boston Magazine's claim from 2006 that Pallotta is a billionaire. It seems that Pallotta has not made it into the Forbes list of billionaires. When there is conflict of sources, some qualification may be needed. Actual billionaires tend to be conspicuous and be widely covered in the press. There is at present no discussion of sources on the article talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 19:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Cedar777 reported by User:Hemantha (Result: Self-revert)

Previous version reverted to: Special:Diff/1070050132 by Sriramk750

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Context:
05-Feb-2022, 11:44 - Sriramk750 adds allopathic to IMA sentence in lead (while removing some other text)
05-Feb-2022, 11:49 - Black Kite reverts

User's reverts:
06-Feb-2022, 06:46 - Cedar777 adds "allopathic" back in the lead sentence while moving it down, along with other minor (ce,ref titles) edits
06-Feb-2022, 10:47 - I revert the "allopathic" addition and the lead sentence move
06-Feb-2022, 18:33 - Cedar777 repeats their edit (including the word allopathic), but in the body. They don't touch the lead sentence.

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Page subject to 1RR. Notice at the top of edit window and talk page.

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: There was a talk page discussion on the same day where multiple editors explained the consensus about this issue to a new editor. Cedar777 hasn't participated in that discussion, but has commented upon others in the same time.

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: Special:Diff/1070377315

Comments:
Page subject to 1RR. There's longstanding consensus about the sentence in lead - IMA describes Ayurvedic practitioners who claim to practice medicine as quacks. Occasionally, IPs and new editors wish to change it to - practice allopathic medicine as quacks. hemantha (brief) 05:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Result: No action due to a self-revert. Cedar777 undid their last change after my request on their talk page. This edit broke the 1RR restriction on the page which had been applied due to WP:ARBPS. EdJohnston (talk) 19:03, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

User:49.195.81.81 reported by User:Zefr (Result: Page protected)

User being reported: 49.195.81.81 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

06:08, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision you don't reply for over a week. And USDA trust the analysis and you're speculating that USDA is irresponsible."
04:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1070370666 by discuss on Talk First. USDA database is reliable."
03:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Uses */Added in USDA database for nutrition information and analysis. https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/173032/nutrients"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

04:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Disruptive editing on Goji."
06:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Goji."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

03:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Vitamin A? */ r"
04:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC) "/* Really? there needs to be a Nutrition chapter */ r"

Comments:

User is edit warring within last 12 hours and in recent history on Goji, using at least 4 different IPs on the talk page and article, despite 4 experienced editors offering numerous explanations for what appears to be inability to understand USDA data presentations and nutrition contents, and need for WP:RS sources. Zefr (talk) 06:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Based on your own count. I didn't break the 3 RR rule. So nothing to discuss. Today is the first time I specifically added in the USDA database. Never have I ever done that before. So I reverted twice only today and not three times.

49.195.81.81 (talk) 07:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Page protected See note on talk page. Ritchie333 15:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Fewspeed555 reported by User:RJFF (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:

Comments:
Long-term edit war accross several articles on Thai political parties. RJFF (talk) 13:32, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

With the exception of a few edits in 2014, the editor has only edited since January 2022. Apparently they change the position of the party in the infobox or elsewhere in the articles. They have never responded to any warnings; indeed, they have never talked at all. I have blocked them indefinitely.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Axxxion reported by User:Twsabin (Result: )

Previous version reverted to: revision (4 Feb revision immediately preceding the addition that is being reverted); alternatively construed: diff of 6 Feb revert (being reverted back to)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Earlier reverts (not within 24h):

6 Feb

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 1st, 2nd (link to talk section)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff (link to talk section)

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: diff

Comments:

The discussion involving multiple editors is ongoing, the removed section is both praised and scrutinized, and incremental improvement is being considered. twabin 22:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

The objection (not only mine) is that the recently introduced subsection is off-topic and therefore should not be in the article pending the ongoing discussion. The matter is quite plain. Instead of participating on the TalkPage, Twsabin keeps re-introducing the dubious material under discussion.Axxxion (talk) 23:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

There had been no consensus that the table should be removed pending discussion. Your edit warring is egregious. twabin 23:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

The fact is that you were both edit-warring but are now participating in a discussion at the article talk page. I'm not a regular admin at this noticeboard so I'm not going to respond with any penalties, just commenting after looking over this article. Liz 00:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I did not breach 3RR and my intent was to maintain the discussed section, so that it may be discussed and improved further, while the here reported editor tried to impose their preferred state of the article (and enforce it by edit warring), bypassing discussion, based on a defective reasoning that something that is undergoing discussion can't also be included in the article at the same time. Seeing how their removal was disruptive in the context of an ongoing discussion, I consider my three reverts to be helpful and generally consistent with policy. I can't accept the conclusion that our conduct was roughly the same. I request preventative action, so that the reported editor understands their error. twabin 01:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

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