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Don't delete relationships from the Archie Comics

As a character that doesn't have separate articles for different incarnations, all relationships pertaining to this character have a place in this article. Denjo

Rouge's Age

I've noticed lately that people, specifically 82.33.13.30, adding that she's 17. She's 18! Check her profile on Sonic Channel, or any other site, even Concept Mobius. And please, stop adding that she's 17. I'm sick of correcting it! UnDeRsCoRe 13:31, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll assist in this matter. Grandmastergalvatron 00:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok this is the last straw 82.33.13.30 just vandilised my page because I kept on reverting the 17 years old edits! Block that IP now! UnDeRsCoRe 15:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

hey wait Rouge is 18 my bad, 82.33.13.30

No, really? UnDeRsCoRe 22:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalizing his page was totally unnecessary >> Grandmastergalvatron 17:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

yea i got a message about that im not even a member of this thing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.13.30 (talk • contribs)

Well, Rouge was originally 18 and it was corrected to 17 in Sonic Heroes. --PJ Pete

Which was later corrected by Sonic Channel which states that she's 18.GrandMasterGalvatron 12:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Shoudn't the age say 17 or 18. Because an instruction manul does say shes 17 and a website says she 18.

Rouge is actually 17, because that's her official age, and she is NOT an adult, although adults are aged 18 and over in most countries. --PJ Pete

The most recent source, Sonic Channel, says she's 18. Leave it as is. GrandMasterGalvatron 13:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Edit Block

Can we get a block or something on Rouge's age? Someone insistenly changes it to 17 when it is stated in more than one source that she is not. Grandmastergalvatron 16:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

actually, can we just block IP 82.33.13.30 from editing the page? Grandmastergalvatron 20:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't really think that's a suitible decision. IP 82.33.13.30 isn't necisarily "vandlising", he, or she, just thinks that her age is 17 because of the Heroes manual. We could just send a fair warning, cause obviously IP 82.33.13.30 isn't reading the history page and seeing why we're reverting his/her edits. But if the problem persists, we will have to block edits to Rouge the Bat from IP 82.33.13.30 UnDeRsCoRe 22:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Ok this is the last straw 82.33.13.30 just vandilised my page because I kept on reverting the 17 years old edits! Block that IP now! UnDeRsCoRe 15:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's Breast Size

Does this: "In Sonic Adventure 2 Rouge's 3D model has the biggest size of breast (in comparison with other versions)." really need to be known. It isn't really significant. And besides, even if so, why would be the reason of this? I removed it. UnDeRsCoRe 02:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

What? No it doesn't! They're all the same, it's the oufits that make them look different. All that's needed is a simple side view. Grandmastergalvatron 00:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone keeps on talking about Rouge's, you knows, in this article. Please stop it. SHE'S A VIDEO GAME CHARACTER. UnDeRsCoRe 21:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

To deny the sexual references of video game characters is quite naive these days. Especially with games like "Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball" and such. Grandmastergalvatron 16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not denying them (her entire appearence is, undeniably, a sexual refrence to attract "adolenscent (heterosexual) males and lesbians", it's just that the fact that her breasts were any larger, smaller, etc. is not the whole point of this article. The page was getting seemingly stuffed with refrences that her "Breasts were largest in SA2" or "In Shadow the Hedgehog they shrunk". This is an opinionated decision, and wheater or not they were big, small, or just round about not there, has not been confirmed. For all we now, they are all the same size. UnDeRsCoRe 22:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

That I agree with. I've removed many of those statements Grandmastergalvatron 01:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that Rouge is supposed to be the sex symbol of the Sonic series. Which, by the way, means that Amy is not supposed to be the sex symbol. Just to notify the pervert trolls. --Luigifan 18:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's outfit in Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog is the same outfit. It seems to me that sega toned her character design down, presumably to make more sutable for a younger audience (even though they didnt remove the gun use in that game, which i think is much worse) I think thats worth a mention. ROSSYMILES (ロシマイルス) TALK 07:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey do you know what would be good? If we lived in a world where people didn't think Amy Rose was a sex symbol and people stopped arguing about Rouge's breasts! SHE'S A GODDAMN FICTIONAL CHARACTER!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I made my point. Roxyr 17:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

So true, Roxyr, soooo true. DeathGodDragon EDGE 22:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I concur. Man, I wish people could get over it, but some people just have a thing for things that they shouldn't be attracted to. --Luigifan 12:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree. Rouge's "you-know whats" aren't something to be raving about. SHE'S NOT REAL PEOPLE, SHE'S NOT REAL!

DebbieLin 18:08 27 December 2006

Other Sonic series girls and their breast sizes

While I still say Rouge is the official sex symbol of the Sonic series, I have to point out that Rouge isn't the only character with a large breast size... I can think of two others off the top of my head; Amy Rose and Princess Sally Acorn. Sally, in particular, is controversial because the only clothes she wears are a vest and a pair of boots!! And the vest is always left open!!! If anything, Sally's the one who should be shouted at! I'm not a Sally hater, but, for crying out loud, the lack of clothes is disturbing!!! --Luigifan 03:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Amy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No really...Amy hardly has any breasts XD. I believe Sonia and Bunnie are more "developed" than she is in that respect. :P GrandMasterGalvatron 04:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

What? Just look at Amy's official artwork from Sonic Heroes. You cannot tell me she doesn't have large... you know. --Luigifan 12:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

• looks at artwork* No...she doesn't :P Seriously... Sonia has a larger chest than Amy does. XD

But then again, this really depends on one's definition of "large"GrandMasterGalvatron 15:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Are you kidding? Amy looks like an hourglass in that photo! But, this isn't supposed to be about Amy, it's supposed to be about Rouge!!! --Luigifan 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

True. The point simply is that Rouge and Amy's chest sizes are nowhere near equal ;)GrandMasterGalvatron 22:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I never said that they were equal. Just that Amy also had large, well, you know. --Luigifan 22:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Are you incapable of saying the word "breast" or something :P Just messing with ya there. Oh...I also want to mention that Rouge's physique has not been altered since her debut (sans a tail removal). I don't know where people are getting the idea that she has been toned down or anything. All it takes is a good view of her side profile to see that she hasn't changed. I also said this before but no physics were altered from SA2 to SA2:B. The frame rate jumped up and since the game moves faster, the screen is usually too busy to notice. GrandMasterGalvatron 22:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't played Sonic Adventure 2, only the remake, so I have no clue what you mean by that. And, I have noticed the 'bouncing boobies' in SA2:B. --Luigifan 22:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, in SA2, the VS mode frame rate was 30 fps as opposed to 60 fps like it is in Battle. This resulted in a slightly slower game. During Rouge's intro pose, her breasts bounced just like some anime chick....they did in her victory pose as well. Although SA2:B does the same, it's a lot faster...I guess that's where people though she was toned down.GrandMasterGalvatron 22:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the argument over Amy has stagnated, but, come on, Sally's "slut factor" is undeniable. I have to wonder why parents are more disturbed by Rouge than they are by Sally. I mean, for crying out loud, is it that hard to get a bra?!??? Yeesh... --Luigifan 21:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

-- But the male characters are practically clotheless. Why? Because they have nothing objectionable shown. Niether does Sally. Why? Because her anatomy is not drawn to be suggestive, whereas Rouge is. I'd rather have a clotheless sally than a clothless Rouge.

Well, there are two things I have to tell you, Anonymous;

A: Sally's breast size is quite large, and I'm presuming it's only considered to be okay because fur is covering the nipples. Fiona used to have nothing covering her chest area , too... but both her and Sally had much smaller breast sizes then.
B: In all anatomical respects, there should be a private part showing; it's just that the artists always take the "creative liberty" of not drawing it...
C: Breasts are not sexual organs, per se, and it is truly sad that our society cannot distinguish between them being portrayed normally or sexually.

--Luigifan 12:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, don't erase my stuff like that! If you disagree about it, then please discuss it with me. Don't just erase it and pretend that it was never there, because that violates Misplaced Pages policy. --Luigifan 14:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Sonic and Rouge

I don't think Rouge said she would go on a date with him to get Emerl in Sonic Battle. And it was never stated she thinks he's "way too cocky". So I removed the cocky comment. UnDeRsCoRe

It was Sonic who suggested that Rouge was trying to date him. Grandmastergalvatron 16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, then that means Rouge may not have wanted to date him, Sonic simply thought so. UnDeRsCoRe 22:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Knuckles x Rouge relationship

As seen in the final scene of Heroes, and sonic X, the boy returns Rouge's feelings. There are numerous official sources that indicate she has a crush on him. For example: her profile in Sonic Central, which says She has a crush on a certain red echidna we all know and love. She is secretly inspired by his determination to protect the Master Emerald. The 4kids! website shows this too, and there are many other sources as well.In Sonic Adventure 2, he caught her hand as she was falling. In Sonic X, he blushes around her and shows other signs. Other than that, although he seems to dislike her, it's probable that he actually likes her. Perhaps he's trying to cover it.

Nah. Rouge liking Knuckles is as official as Amy liking Sonic. It even says so on the official Sonic website. And, at the end of Sonic Adventure 2, she said when was talking to him, she said she was going to focus on getting other things than jewels, and then said, "You" under her breath.

What? I really don't remember hearing that. Are you sure she said that? You're not making this up, are you? Anyhow, if the official website said that, then Rouge likes Knuckles and Knuckles probably likes her. --anon

What Rouge said at the end was something to the effect of "I have something better than jewels in mind." She never gave any hint as to what it was, and it seems to have been dropped anyway, because she is still after those jewels.

Actually if you pay close attention to her hand, she lifts up her right hand, the same hand that Sonic gave her Shadow's bracelet.

Whoever keeps mentioning Rouge's breasts on this article, knock it off.-User:Denjo

That's off topic. Denjo, you should be complaining a few sections up. --Luigifan 18:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe this is opinionated, but I think she is just using knuckles to get the M.E. And he likes her. I mean, Thats in character for both of them.

Wait...Do I understand she's trying to do the Knuck man? Roxyr 15:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do NOT get into that. I doubt Sega will EVER imput sex into their games. God, stop speculating. UnDeRsCoRe 16:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I think Roxy meant that Rouge was trying to take advantage of Knuckles to get her hands on the Master Emerald. After all, it is official that "Rouge isn't above using her feminine wiles to get what she wants." Still, the fact that she's so flirtatious does kind of make you wonder whether or not she's lost her virginity by now... Or, maybe the misinterpretation is on Roxy's part. --Luigifan 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Let me explain what I meant by do. I mean hoodwink, to pull one over, trick, as I know that Sega will never put sex into their games. I'm completely against it. In fact, I think I wrote about it in the Elise section...Anyway, I hope that clears up confusion. BTW, thanks for calling me Roxy. Roxyr 17:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

That's what I was saying, that Rouge probably was trying to befuddle Knux so that she could make off with the Master Emerald!! --Luigifan 21:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

HEY EVERYONE PLZ LISTEN UP! If you watched the third season of sonic X, or played sonic Heroes or sonic Adventure 2, you know, that they both love each other! KNUCKLES saved Rouge in Adventure 2, they flirted in Heroes, and KNUCKLES protected her from a robot in sonic X. HE also helped her up from the ground, and KNUX blushes, if Rouge flirts with him. If he wouldn't like her, he wouldn't do so.

Console Market Leave

Why did Rouge appear for the first time before Sega left the console market? --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com

I dont know, but it doesnt really matter that much. who knows, maby sega will come back to makeing them.-- J.A.B.

Shadow and Rouge

How do you know Shadow and Rouge have a brother-sister relationship? --anon

They don't, it merely suggests that their relationship is similar to a brother-sister relationship. -- VederJuda 20:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

New Picture

>x<ino uploaded a new picture of Rouge, from Shadow the Hedgehog, so I'm putting it on here, in keeping with the giudeline that articles should start with the most up-to-date picture available. -- VederJuda 20:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Quotes

You know, the quotes here look too cluttered. We should either get rid of some or move them all to Wikiquote (at the Sonic the Hedgehog section). --anon

When did Rouge kiss knuckles?

In the game or show? --anon

Never - well, in Sonic X I think she may have pecked him on the cheek, but don't quote me on that. On quotes, I think that there should only ever be one quote from each appearance.

Wow.. i can't believe knuckles actually let her kiss him... I wonder if they will have some batidnas? Hmmm... Echidnats or Batidnas, you decide! Dalek

What are Echidnats and Batidnas? Are those their children? Well, a kiss wouldn't make anybody pregnant. --anon

I know something that would! Ha ha ha, naughty little echidna, you! Dalek

I'm rather disturbed now. --Luigifan 18:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

You are all freaks.

I agree. Roxyr

Erm. . . Getting a little off topic?--Qwerty The 3rd 21:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Comic 2 Quote!?

Two images sits at the left & right side of the Quote Section.

One of them has to be deleted, so decide.

I say the right one should be deleted

>x<ino 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and I also think the quotes should move to Wikiquote! --anon

Good thinking!

>x<ino 02:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

The cover on the right (#152) has Rouge pushed in the back, so I agree that's the one that should go; and I also agree there are too many quotes, there shouldn't be more than 3 or 4. Also, I'm going to move the pictures up, they are about the comic, so they should be contained within the comic section, not drooping down into the quotes section. -- VederJuda 02:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Great work on moving the pics...great we don't need to delete them any more

for the record, the Quotes need to be sorted out!

>x<ino 02:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention the fact that Rouge doesn't even show up in Sonic the Hedgehog #152; Fiona Fox should have been on that cover instead! --Luigifan 18:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

We already decided to keep them on January! That's nearly a year ago. So there's no point in pointing that out now. UnDeRsCoRe 21:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Character Info/Personality

I merged the Character Info and Personality subjects as they seemed to be repeating each other. I also moved Rouge's stats to the top of the page, which is where the stats are placed in the other Sonic profiles. --Some girl called Harley.

I hope you people don't mind but, in the finel episode of Sonic X Rouge states she is going to work with Sonic and the gang, and she also had a necklace with a purple heart with silver trimming

So am I like the only one oh noticet that Rouge has fangs

Abilities

Thanks to 66.61.118.53 coming up with this section, but making a poor edit on it!
I am not a Rouge fan character, so I dunno that much information on her.
But I have some ideas for this section.

I will create a Sub header section under this section "Abilities"

• Sonic Adventure 2
• Sonic Heroes
• Sonic Advanced!?
• Shadow the Hedgehog

With this section we will explain which of her abilites and moves, for example powers up she needs in SA2 and even Upgrade for her skills in Sonic Heroes

I believe my work here is done, I will add the sub section and complete her Sonic Heroes abilities.

"LOOK SHARP PEOPLE...>x<ino and out!">x<ino 01:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Rouge is Knuckles's rivel why can,t she change into super?

Possibly because the ability may be a limited one. Also, she had never had all the emeralds. Grandmastergalvatron 17:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's Age

Please provide evidence that Rouge is 18 and not 17, please. If her age was incorrect in the english manual of Sonic Heroes, I'd like proof that it is wrong, instead of just an assurance that it is correct.Nintenfreak 05:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Done: http://sonic.sega.jp/chara/chara_rouge.html If my memory is correct, she's also listed as 18 in Sonic X. I think the Heroes manual may have been a mistake. --Matt S. 02:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

It's always possible that she simply became older.RememberMe? 00:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the Sonic Heroes manual does say she's 17...I thought she was 18 before that, and now that I see this, I'm so confused...TMNT Donatello 10:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

That was a printing mastake according to sega she is 18

Shadow and Rouge

In Sonic Battle, I don't remember Rouge calling Shadow "prince". Could somebody please inform me where Rouge says this? --71.104.188.207 06:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC) She says it when he wakes up from fainting. she says 2Aha, so the prince has finally awakened!" Dalek

Isn't that sarcastic or something? Cause it's not exactly a romantic thing to say. --71.118.77.204 01:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like an attempt at a pop culture reference. --DavidHOzAu 03:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

What pop culture reference? --71.105.12.73 02:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Snow white Grandmastergalvatron 17:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's weight

All official sources state that Rouge's weight is unknown, or a "secret," to my knowledge. As such, I've edited the page to match and included a source (though I forgot to include an edit summary--Sorry! Still new here.) If anyone finds a valid source concerning her weight, please speak up. --Matt S. 02:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

It's a well-known stereotype that most women don't like to reveal their weight. :p --Luigifan 03:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Amy Rose and Blaze the Cat don't have listed weights either. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luigifan (talk • contribs) 12:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Rouge's translated profile

With some help from Hepburn romanization and , I have translated the right-hand-side column of Rouge's profile.

Enjoy, everyone.--DavidHOzAu 07:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's full name has been added to the article. --DavidHOzAu 08:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Jumpsuits

You'ev got to be kidding me am I the only one who notetice that in Shadow the hedgehog gameplay her Jumpsuit was like Sonic adventure 2 but pink!!?

I noticed that. UnDeRsCoRe 17:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

But the Misplaced Pages article says that Rouge's jumpsuit in Shadow the Hedgehog is "actually colored purple!?" No way!! No offence her jumpsuit color in Shadow the Hedgehog is the same in SA2! >.> Tikal-chan 09:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Not during gameplay it isn't Grandmastergalvatron 00:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

better than jewels....

I know this was already metioned on the talk page, but how come on the part where it talks about Rouge's relationship with Shadow it doesn't mention the part in SA2 in the end where Rouge suggests she might give up hunting jewels because she works to hard for to little; and then says: "Anyway, I've got something better than jewels that I'm thinking about right now...." Maybe, maybe she will say something in the new Sonic game about that

There's no real evidence, though. Either she was thinking about Knuckles and randomly moved her hand (SA2 has a thing for random movements), she made a reference to the bracelet and was thinking about Shadow (Was he really dead? Could've he Chaos Controlled at the last second?), or maybe something completely different Sega hasn't revealed yet. I think something should be added about the "bracelet controversy." Ne?

Yes, ne. I mean, no. The bracelet controversy is very insignificant, people have just made it more than it is by saying blatant rumours and theories. In reality, in could've meant anything. But, either way, it dosen't really matter. So don't bother with the bracelet controversy. And, yes he did survive, so if she was ever going to say something about that bracelet, she should've said it by now. Oh, an, it wasn't a bracelet, it was a ring. They even call it that in Sonic X. UnDeRsCoRe 03:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Isnt it obvious that she is thinking about knuckles? Shes only holding shadow's ring because sonic gave it to her. Sega have stated that she has a crush on knuckles. Her relationship with shads seems to be just a brother/sister relationship. ROSSYMILES (ロシマイルス) TALK 02:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Good Article?

What will it take for this article to become a Good Article? Paul Haymon 00:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Wait, I just realized the answer: A whole lot of work. Paul Haymon 19:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you mind on telling us what you think we should do? UnDeRsCoRe 20:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

For starters let's remove the critisim section. Coconutfred73 14: 51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Kill'dGrandMasterGalvatron 20:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

In response to UnDeRsCoRe, it's mainly an issue of prose. The article is probably around B-Class right now, but a restructuring of the sentences and complexity of the words used is mostly what is needed. The article has actually gotten a lot better since I asked the initial question on Sept. 26. I'll help with this issue, don't worry. Paul Haymon 22:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out~ I'll try and help out too, if I have the time. UnDeRsCoRe 22:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

more picz plz

ok guyz we need 2 get more picz of rouge on thsi page their just arent enough!!!!!11!!1/ MultiJoe 23:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

No we don't. There is only one (the Sonic Battle Art) that isn't up. We don't need anymore up, there's enough. UnDeRsCoRe 00:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

By Misplaced Pages's standards, there's too many pictures, if anything. 5 is the recommended amount for these fair use deals. Paul Haymon 00:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I was getting at, via some apparantly underpowered sarcasm. Same goes for the Knuckles article and probably the rest of the Sonic fandom. MultiJoe 13:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd certainly like less noob fodder... --Luigifan 21:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Do we really need all of these pics of Rouge? DeathGodDragon EDGE 05:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

No Offense MultiJoe but that does sound a little perverted... But it's probably just me. Roxyr 18:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

OMG! MultiJoe's a stalker! DeathGodDragon EDGE 00:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm gonna take out the Sonic Battle artwork and Alternate costume pics now. DeathGodDragon EDGE 00:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Missing Info

All info beyond her relationship with Knuckles is gone. - The 4th Snake 21:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Back now. - The 4th Snake 15:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The info about her in Sonic x is gone

Hey what happened to the article?

Almost everything is gone! Someone vandalised it. Please fix it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.253.116 (talk • contribs)

What? Looks fine to me...

Ummm....someone just screwed up the top of the article (where the pic should go). DeathGodDragon EDGE 21:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Never mind; everything seems to be back in order. DeathGodDragon EDGE 00:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Shadow and Rouge's Relationship

Alright...I've been seeing a number of you Knuckles X Rouge fanboys completely erase the section on Shadow and Rouge's relationship. Allow me to be the first to tell you to knock it the hell off. Agreeing with it is one thing, but to completely deny that there is something there is just plain ignorant, especially after what when down in Sonic the Hedgehog.

Just thought that needed to be said. GrandMasterGalvatron 18:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Ouch, but soooo true. DeathGodDragon EDGE 00:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I just whant to say that I am not saying aganst anything but in the games Rouge seams to show more feelings to Shadow than Knuckles (please don't be made)

ive completed Sonic the Hedgehog, but what do you mean by what went down in Sonic the Hedgehog.

17 or 18???

Shoudn't the age say 17 or 18. Because an instruction manul does say shes 17 and a website says she 18. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.13.30 (talk • contribs)

There's a mini edit-war going on right now over her age. I've seen sources say both, so I don't know. -- RattleMan 18:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, some sources say 17 and others say 18, so it could be either. You know if we make it say 17 or 18 it could end the mini edit war.

yes lets put the age as 17 or 18-Sonicfan0184

There are a lot of sections on this page about how old Rouge is. I might as well post in this one. Sonic Heroes says that her age is 17. I don't know if I'd trust Sonic Heroes for "Sonic facts", but this is worth considering. Then, there's Sonic X, which says that her age is 18. The page that's given as proof (linked to from this article) is, as far as I can see, copied straight from Sonic X, which has loads of mistakes (if you want to call them that), most of which are on the profile screens. So my point is that Sonic Heroes is probably a more reliable source than Sonic X. I think it should say "17/18" for her age in the box at the top-right of the page (maybe it did in an earlier version of the article), and explain why she has two ages shown in the main text of the article. The only-18 thing puts Sonic X as the main source of Sonic facts, and this isn't right. Also, that part about her being a legal adult (in the trivia section) seems to be an attempt to shove the "fact" about her age being 18 right in everyone's face. -Marth

Okay, it's nice that someone mentioned the Heroes manual in the article (finally), but saying that it's false just seems to show a preference for Sonic X. Now, let's just say that it really was a mistake that her age was shown as 17. What happens with everything else? I mean, Sonic was about 90 cm in Sonic Adventure, but Sonic X (the "official" source) claims that he is 100cm. (Not to mention that I thought he looked closer to 90 cm than 100 even in Sonic X itself, but I haven't proven that yet.) Is Sonic Adventure wrong because it contradicts the show that some seem to think it was based on? If Sonic X "facts" are going to be used in Misplaced Pages articles, shouldn't it be mentioned that they are from that show? And as I said in the last message, I've seen the site that was given as a source, but it appears to be copied directly, mistakes and all. -Marth

Look some sources say 17 and some say 18, so it could be either, its not really that important, but to stop people arquing i think it should be 17/18. That would be true, because sometimes its 18 and sometimes its 17.

Just leave the age as 17/18. People keep changing it to just 17 or just 18.

SilverandBlazefn 06:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

No no NO. The LATEST source is Sonic Channel. That is the OFFICIAL JPN Sonic website operated by SONIC TEAM. They make the games and characters. What they say is what should be on here. They say 18 so that's what it is. It was only 17 ONCE and that was a TYPO. Just like "Hyper Shadow". If it's on Sonic Channel, there are no mistakes about it. Those dudes take care to make sure the data is accurate. They're the ones we're using to confirm "Burning Blaze", that Chaos is a chao and all other stuff. If it's there, it's right :P That's really all that can be saidGrandMasterGalvatron 19:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Does Sonic Channel contradict Sonic X in any way? (As far as I've seen, it doesn't.) Sonic X appears to contradict Sonic Adventure (not to mention that it might contradict itself), so if Sonic Channel directly copies Sonic X, there's a problem. The Sonic X "facts", like any (Archie, for example), were thrown together carelessly, and can't be trusted as the main source. And how do you know Sonic Channel can't have any kind of mistake, when the manuals and games can? Anyway, I think it's fair enough to just use 17/18. That way, both sources are used. Changing it to just 18 is no better than changing it to just 17. -Marth

What in heaven's name does this have to do with Fire Emblem?!?? --Luigifan 12:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Sonic Channel doesn't have anything to do with Sonic X. Sonic X just happened to use official data in its JPN version. I'll say it again. SONIC CHANNEL IS WRITTEN DIRECTLY BY SONIC TEAM OF JAPAN. When it comes to the games it will never be wrong. It was Sonic Channel that confirmed that Blaze was a princess, that Chaos was a Chao, that Blaze's transformation is called "Burning Blaze", why Omega was locked in that base (they said it had to do with Shadow long before Sonic 06 came out), and a whole bunch of other data I can't think of at the time. The profiles they have are very much accurate and are in fact being used as official sources for numerous Sonic related articles.

You know what...the hell with it. I'm sick and tired of this. I'm just gonna let you all have your way, and become even more of a laughingstock among Sonic enthusiasts. >>GrandMasterGalvatron 15:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

So Sonic X got the incorrect info from Sonic Team? When did this start? If it was early (like 1998), then why'd they model the characters (in Sonic Adventure) at a smaller size than was stated in their official list of facts? If you really need proof of inconsistency, take a look at Vector. Whether you're playing Sonic Heroes or watching Sonic X, it's obvious that at his tallest (his height changes a little every time he's shown in Sonic X) he's no more than about 1 1/2 times as tall as Espio. According to the "official" source, Espio is 110 cm, and Vector is 180 cm. See something wrong here? I know that this is a little off-topic, but I'm just showing that these "facts" don't work out. Oh, and Luigifan, you were joking, right? I'm using "-Marth" as a kind of signature here, as I don't have an account. I might get one later. I can use "-SAplayer" or something instead, if it's so confusing. -Marth

Actually...that does work out..if you do your conversions right. That puts Vector at approx 2'5" over Espio. That seems fine to me. You'll have to do better than that. Also...I know I said I'd lay off...but I can't. It's just wrong. Doubting the official facts is stupid regardless of your personal opinions. This is a place of verifiable facts, not worthless opinions.GrandMasterGalvatron 19:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

So your saying a game is wrong and some websites right, you know, Rouge's profile wont have been updated since her first game so it could be a mistake, You cant know for sure. Its like Shadow, His profile says he likes Nothing and his dislike was Mankind. Bit out of date isnt it.

So, going by what you said, 2'5" is half Espio's height, and he is almost 5 feet tall. Yeah... I thought 110 cm was around 3 1/2 feet, and 180 cm was almost 6 feet. Half of 3 1/2 feet is 1 3/4, or 1'9". I must be terrible at math. Also, check this out: http://www.teamartail.com/sonicx/ss.php/59/page3 Look at all the pictures. Especially #146, where he's shown to be almost exactly the same height as Chris, who is 4'6". If that's not enough, I can start getting pictures from the games. But this whole thing is ridiculous. And "verifiable facts, not worthless opinions"? Exactly! Which is why opinions, including the opinion that a source other than the games is right (EVEN THOUGH IT CONTRADICTS THE GAMES), don't belong here. I don't see what's so terrible about mentioning both sources. -Marth

Source other than the games? THEY MAKE THE GAMES! I think they of all people know what's the right data about the characters! This is data from AN OFFICIAL WEBSITE for crying out loud! Sonic Channel is being used as a verifiable source for ALL of the Sonic related pages! This is data straight from the horse's mouth here! I can't believe we're actually having this discussion!GrandMasterGalvatron 15:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah really.. I mean it's not like we're talking about GameFAQS or something like that. This is the Official source, the best source you could possibly get. And also, hello, it depends on which Instruction Manual it is. And Rattleman, re: your second post in this section, allow me to correct it: There's a major edit-war going on right now over her age. Fix'd. Knuckles sonic8 16:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

C'mon people, if the guys who made the games say that Rouge is 18, and that's the most recent info, then deal with it. I mean seriously, no one is questioning: a) how Amy went from 8 to 12 in the course of 3/4 games, b) why Charmy is now 6, c) why Knux and Sonic had their ages switched around, and d) why Eggman is (apparently) 28 when he clearly appears to be in his 40's. If no one is questioning that, then why are we questioning this? Rouge is 18. Period. ChromeWulf ZX 01:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It is quite normal for a video game manufacturer to tweak their fictional characters slightly between games. What Rouge was in 2003 is completely different to the Rouge of 2007. This is known as character development, which is a good thing because it prevents the franchise from stagnating. Sonic's article doesn't say that he has no friends because he was solo in in 1991. We use the most recent information. Please do the same: state her age, cite the most compelling source, and let the facts speak for themselves. --DavidHOzAu 11:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Knuxouge and Shadouge dudes

Fans of these couplings, listen up. It's been said in official stuff that she likes Knux, and although she has shown interest in Shadow, it's never been stated. I know and accept that the two are close, but I don't believe that she feels that way about him. Yeah, I support Knuxouge, but I'm going by the facts, and they just so happen to agree with me.71.209.183.185 00:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)anon

Shadow and Rouge are closer than Knux and Rouge now, not to put ya down but it's true here's how:

1. Rouge is often very protective of Shadow
2. Rouge is always stating she's better than Knux

there's more but never mind SilverandBlazefn 23:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)SilverandBlazefan

Until the games show an actual romantic relationship developing, then we can't say that she will end up with either of them; it is true that an official profile of Rouge stated she was interested in Knuckles, and hinted at in SA2, but later games show her kindness to Shadow. It's possible she had an eye for Knuckles originally, but is now interested in Shadow; but that's speculation at best or fan cruft at worst, and doesn't belong in the article. At this point, we can't say that she's involved in any serious way with either of them, and it's especially wrong to erase chunks of the article to hide evidence either way (I'm looking at some of the rabid Knuxouge fans out there.) -- VederJuda 02:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry....but I still think Rouge DOES like Shadow..since it Does hint it many times!SilverandBlazefn 06:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Two words: SPECULATION and FAN CRUFT. We're not here to argue over who Rouge is going to totally fall in love with or whether the other has feelings in return. As an online encyclopedia, this article is supposed to state the facts based from a neutral standpoint. If you want to go couple-shipping, that's what fan-made websites are for. Kurazelu 01:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

If you ask me..it's perfectly possible the Knux X Rouge idea is being phased out for Shadow X Rouge. The games since SA2 are certainly pointing that way...especially Sonic '06. Also, it HAS been officially stated she has feelings for Shadow kthnx :PGrandMasterGalvatron 19:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

How can you say they've been pointing that way since SA2, BECAUSE THE WHOLE KNUX/ROUGE THING STARTED IN SA2. (And, if you wouldn't mind, tell me where it's been officially stated? ...kthnx.)

When I say since SA2, I mean afterwards. The whole Knuckles/Rouge thing has become a rivalry at most. It's at the point where there's only one line of dialogue between the two each game, which Shadow and Rouge have way more. In fact, the latter two are just about always together. BTW Rouge's profile in the Sonic 06 strategy guide states that she has feeling for both Knuckles AND Shadow. I have yet to see anything since that officially disproving it so it's good for now. (I generally go by the latest statement from either side of the planet).

As for what's most encyclopedic mention the situations with Knuckles and Shadow in a neutral light, and let the reader decide.GrandMasterGalvatron 17:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I know where you're coming from, but I have done some e-search, and most offical stuff DOES say Rouge likes Shadow. I mean, I was a Knuxouge... until I saw a clip from '06.SilverandBlazefn 00:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Wiki is a place of encyclopediac research and info, not speculation! So, can we drop the subject before fans start a flame war? ChromeWulf ZX 03:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it's already happening....:(--Blaze4Sonic&Sonic4Blaze 18:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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