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Hi! Sorry for the delayed reply, I was very busy yesterday and really only had chance to scan my watchlist at wikipedia.

FIrst let me say that wikipedia is a collaborative project—thousands of people are changing other people's edits constantly; if there were a requirement to get permission from each editor individually before changing their edits nothing would ever get done. In fact, when you submit material to wikipedia you implicitly give permission for other people to edit it—in the editing window it states clearly "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it."

Regarding the external links that I removed. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia. Encyclopedias have content. If you bought an encyclopedia and it just referred you to other books I think that you would go and ask for your money back. This is one of the reasons why external links are discouraged by many editors (you can read the current community consensus on external links at WP:EL). So, whilst I agree with you that, for instance, adding a topographical map to the Geography of Sheffield article would be a great addition, I think that adding a link to a topographical map on another website adds little or nothing to the article. Similarly for the links that you placed in other articles—had you added useful content to the article I would be only too pleased, but adding links to articles on your own website looks like self-promotion. That may not be what you intended, but wikipedia gets many thousands of people who do think that they can use wikipedia to drive traffic to their own website. So I would encourage you to add content to wikipedia (bearing in mind that it may be edited by other people), but not in the form of external links. JeremyA 15:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: your mail

Hi! You sent me an email with a couple of questions:

1. If I edit an article but forget to "sign in" is it possible to go back and put my name on the edit?

You cannot change the name on the edit. What many do is sign in and make a null edit with an edit summary that is something like "the last 5 edits were by me"

1. How does one start a new page ?

For the long answer read Help:Starting a new page and Misplaced Pages:Your first article. The short answer is to type the name of the article that you want to start in the search box on the left hand side of this page and click on the Go button. If an article with that title already exists you will be taken to it, if not you will be taken to a page with a red-link that says create this article—click on that link and start editing.

I hope this helps, feel free to ask for more help if you need it (I am likely to reply faster to messages on my talk page than by email as I use a dedicated email account for my wikipedia email and I often forget to check it). --JeremyA 00:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Page views

Hi! I thought that I had replied to your email about this, did you not get it? Anyway, unfortunately as far as I am aware Misplaced Pages has no way for you to see the number of people that visit a particular page. Misplaced Pages is one of the most visited sites on the internet—a google search for 'Ponds Forge' gives the wikipedia page as the second hit, so you can be sure that a good number of people will read your contributions. However, the only way to gauge page visits is by the number of edits a page gets (add it to your watchlist), but as only a very small percentage of people that read an article actually edit it this won't really tell you very much. —JeremyA 19:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Try this link for hits per article http://stats.grok.se/ this can also be used for images ***Adam*** 01:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Your contribution to Transmitter

I'm afraid I find your edit rather baffling. I live about ten miles from a place named Waltham, but I've never heard of "Sandy" except as a woman's given name, and "digital MUXES 5 & 6" doesn't signify anything to me either. Please remember that Misplaced Pages is an international project, and an example which is obvious to you may mean nothing to most readers. 121a0012 02:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussion on naming - Crystal Palace transmitter or Crystal Palace transmitting station

A discussion has opened on the more appropriate naming of articles in Category:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom. The discussion has been moved to Category talk:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom. The essence of the discussion, is that:

• a) the term Crystal Palace transmitter or Foo transmitter is used more commonly than Crystal Palace transmitting station or Foo transmitting station and so fits with the advice of Misplaced Pages:Name#Use_the_most_easily_recognized_name.
• b) the term Crystal Palace transmitting station or Foo transmitting station is more technically accurate as the term Transmitter has a specific use which does not and should not be applied to the station as a whole. As this is a technical term, the naming policy does not apply.

The relevant wording of the advice from the Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions is:

Generally, article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature.

This is justified by the following principle:

The names of Misplaced Pages articles should be optimized for readers over editors, and for a general audience over specialists.

Misplaced Pages determines the recognizability of a name by seeing what verifiable reliable sources in English call the subject.

Reliable sources use both transmitter and transmitting station.

Input to the discussion is sought. SilkTork * 19:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Richborough power station

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Hi. I'm afraid I have to agree with the above statement, but in the spirit of cooperation, I'll restore it. As I recall, the article lacked citations and therefore lacked notability as well. Good luck and thanks for asking. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:15, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Kirkstall Power Station

FYI I've removed the OS reference and added a {{coord}} tag instead. Noting the prod, above, may I say that I welcome the creation of articles on old power stations - very good subject matter for wikipedia in my view. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

See Adolf Galland

Justin, I believe the incident about a "..squadron of Spitfires" is already quite well known and I have made some revisions to your edits on the Battle of Britain (film) and the Galland article. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC).

Warships Westerns etc.

Hi, re this edit - please could you add a reference in the approved form, see WP:REFBEGIN and WP:CITE. A source given in the edit summary won't appear when viewing the article. Similarly, could you please add references to the edits you've recently carried out at Class 22, Class 35 and Class 52. Thanks. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello Redrose. All the info is from the book "Westerns, Warships and Hymeks at work" by Geoff Endacott, I think this is probably the seminal work on the subject. I`m not sure how to put the references at the page bottom, I`ve never had time to learn how to do it. Actually, the capacity of the Maybach MD engines wasn`t from Endacott`s book that was easily found on the internet, all sites agreed on this, including Maybach`s original site (now M.T.U). MD engines have the same capacity per cylinder, i.e. 5.4L --JustinSmith (talk) 21:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, as I mentioned above, there are documents called WP:REFBEGIN and WP:CITE - these cover "referencing for beginners" and "citing sources" respectively, the latter being a bit more advanced. As a bare minumum, say you had added some fact

the engine developed 1,100 bhp (820 kW) at 1530 rpm.

you would add the reference immediately after that, within a pair of <ref>...</ref> tags:

the engine developed 1,100 bhp (820 kW) at 1530 rpm.<ref>Endacott, Geoff. ''Westerns Warships & Hymeks at Work''.</ref>

but it's best to provide a bit more information, such as publisher, year and ISBN; the most important is the page number:

<ref>Endacott, Geoff (1988). ''Westerns Warships & Hymeks at Work''. Shepperton: Ian Allan. p. xxx. ISBN 0-7110-1535-X.</ref>

You can also use the {{cite book}} template to carry out the formatting for you:

<ref>{{cite book |last=Endacott |first=Geoff |title=Westerns Warships & Hymeks at Work |year=1988 |publisher=Ian Allan |location=Shepperton |isbn=0-7110-1535-X |page=xxx }}</ref>

Either way, it will display in the references section something like this:

1. Endacott, Geoff (1988). Westerns Warships & Hymeks at Work. Shepperton: Ian Allan. p. xxx. ISBN 0-7110-1535-X.

but whichever you choose, please replace the "xxx" with the relevant page number. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Linking, referencing etc.

Hi, re this edit: this sort of link is discouraged for at least three reasons - it's an external link in the body of the article, see WP:ELPOINTS item 2; and it's not directly related to the Class 55s, see WP:ELNO item 13 - it's mainly the homepage of an organisation, which fails WP:ELNO item 19. If your intention was to use it as a reference source, that's also inadmissible because there is nothing on that page which supports the text which you added to British Rail Class 55.

Next: regarding this edit - what is Locomotive Practice & Performance by Cecil J Allen p56? I am only aware of this as the long-running series in The Railway Magazine - in which case you also need to give the magazine title, year and month at the very least.

Please also see the section above regarding referencing, since these articles use the <ref>...</ref> system, not parenthetical referencing. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello RR. I think the link to the Railway Performance Society should be included for a few reasons. Readers can see what the society is about and whether they think its references and research are worthy. Furthermore, to be frank, the RPS generally at least wants some publicity for using "their" sources and data, which, to be frank, I think is fair enough, it`s not as if they`re a business in it to make money. If you want to move the link to the reference at the bottom of the page be my guest. I also have the RPS times for an A4 on modern infrastructure schedule for KX to Edinburgh, but I don`t think it right to use any more of their data without at least a link onto their website. I think this is a classic case where an inflexible attitude to Misplaced Pages`s "rules" is counter productive. As I say on my "User page, we shouldn`t lose sight of why we`re actually here.

On the Cecil J Allen book, it is actually a book which I have in my collection, the full title is "Locomotive practice & Performance in the 20th Century", first published by Heffer in 1949.

On the reference thing, my eyes just glaze over when I see that, my brain is already full.... Just as I sometimes edit others grammatical errors, I`m quite happy for others to edit my references if they want !

Incidentally, is there a spelling checker on the Misplaced Pages software because the one on my Google toolbar doesn`t seem to work on Wiki editing for some reason. --JustinSmith (talk) 21:04, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Linking to an organisation's website so that "readers can see what the society is about" is often judged to be linkspam.

Linking to the homepage of external sites purely for the purposes of attribution shouldn't be necessary. If that organisation has made information available on their website which is used to support an edit made to a Misplaced Pages article, the reference in that Misplaced Pages article should have a link directly to the page where such information is shown. For example, on Reston railway station, I took some information from a website run by the Dunse History Society. Instead of linking to the society's homepage, I linked directly to the page where that information appears; and I didn't do it in the body text, but in the references section near the bottom.

Regarding the spell checker - the answer is "no", and it comes up so often that it appears as the third item in the FAQ list at the top of the technical Village Pump. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

On the links thing, what can I say, other than I don`t agree with you. Personally if an organisation`s data is being quoted I see no problem with linking to it so "readers can see what the society is about", it certainly isn`t SPAM. Quite apart from anything else I`d have thought a fair percentage of people reading an article on Deltic Performance would be interested in seeing what the the RPS is about, or even just discovering that it exists. I`m certainly not getting into a argument over it, though I don`t think it right to use any more RPS info under the circumstances (you`ve usually got to be a member to access the RPS acrchive), which is a pity in some ways, the only people who`ll lose out are the most important ones, the readers.--JustinSmith (talk) 17:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I've just found the relevant guideline (when searching for something else). It's at WP:CITE#Avoid embedded links, last paragraph (the one about Apple). --Redrose64 (talk) 20:16, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

To be frank RR some obscure Misplaced Pages guideline is of less importance to me than informing, and, just as importantly, generating interest from, ones readers !--JustinSmith (talk) 20:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Spitfire articles

Hi Justin - anything you can think of which can help improve aircraft articles are always useful, and I think your idea about service dates is a good one so, when I have more spare time I'll put together some tables. Cheers ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 21:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello MH. That would be helpful for people reading the arcticles. For those doing research it`d be useful for comparing performance (for instance a Spitfire Mk1 would never have fought a Bf 109G so it`s pointless comparing them, but only if you know that ! ) but it`d also be educational for those with just a passing interest. This is why I actually think all specifications on planes should be dated, very few people would bother to spend the time trawling back through the rest of the article(s) to check when a particular variant was in service so would just take the data given in the table as being the performance of a Spitfire or a Fw190 or what ever. Even if the dates are just approximate, just so long as this is stated I think it`s preferable to no date at all.--JustinSmith (talk) 07:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Calf Hall

Sorry to bother you out of nowhere. I may be having a Senior Moment here but does "Calf Hall" mean anything to you? Not trying to OUT anyone or anything here, just having some kind of flashback. It may also involve Lancasters. Ring bells? Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello DB. Sorry Calf Hall means nothing to me, though I have to say it`s made me curious as to what its relevance is.......--JustinSmith (talk) 20:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback

Fraggle81 (talk) 12:58, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

de Havilland Mosquito

Could you please add properly formatted citations and a bibliography entry for the material you've added to this article, instead of leaving it to other editors to chase around looking for the relevant sources? Galland First and Last: What year, edition, publisher? Bowman - year, title, page no etc. It would be appreciated, Thanks ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 09:54, 19 February 2013 (UTC) I will try to remember to include the publisher etc in future.
Incidentally I don`t agree with the Galland`s comments (in the Mosquito article) being made into a footnote, but I can`t be bothered to change it back again. As a general rule I don`t actually agree with the use of footnotes at all because hardly anyone reads them, particularly those who don`t regularly use Misplaced Pages.--JustinSmith (talk) 13:49, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Explained on Mosquito talk page. ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 23:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Your additions to Rolls-Royce Merlin

Please please please - this is a featured article so don't add unreferenced material to it and expect it not to be removed! You might state in your editing note "This is correct information" but, without adequate references, we only have your word for it. Thanks ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 09:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Anyone can check this, but as it happens you do not only have my word for it.--JustinSmith (talk) 10:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

There are two problems with that as a source: firstly museum caption boards are not always accurate. They're short and simplified, so subtleties are frequently lost. Also they're sometimes just wrong! Secondly, a random photo on a random website is often decried as having become "corrupted" in transit. Picky, perhaps, but there's a strong feeling hereabouts for a "chain of evidence" where content starts out reliable and is kept reliable all the way.

I feel that there are two interesting aspects worth adding here: manufacture being specialised, thus dependent on distant works on Sheffield. Also that the cranks were forged and then twisted, rather than forged in one operation. I'd be very interested to see just why they were made that way. These two points would need sourcing though, and I agree that a museum photo caption isn't enough for a FA (although it's a common and dangerous mistake to see FA as "complete" or "perfect"). What else can we find? Andy Dingley (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy. I`m not sure I agree with you on the museum board thing but the actual (flat forged) dies is surely sufficient evidence for anyone ! ? ! At the end of the day anyone can go and see them for themselves, any chance of the "Aircraft Cabal" organising a day trip to Kelham Island ? I`m sure they`d find it very interesting, I did !--JustinSmith (talk) 09:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

If you'd like to see a WP-problematic caption board, Bristol Museum has one describing the Coanda-1910 as the first jet aircraft! I make these caption boards. Some of them are so busy being short and snappy or "accessible" that they seriously compromise accuracy (thinking of another Bristol museum in particular).

The trouble with the die (do you have better close-ups of the die BTW, as it sounds fascinating) is that it requires interpretation to go from the shape of the die to "a manual twisting step was needed". WP rightly dislikes interpretation, as most editors aren't enough of subject experts to get that right. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:09, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy. I`ll try to send you a higher res pic of the die when I get a chance.--JustinSmith (talk) 17:48, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Rolls-Royce Merlin. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You might think other editors are somehow stupid or misguided for following the guidelines you so heartily dislike; what you are doing is assuming you know best while everyone else is wrong - its not a helpful attitude and one which I hope you'll change. In the meantime stop screwing around with a featured article and being so condescending towards other editors just because you don't like "the system". ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 19:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

That's a bit rich, coming from someone who has just accused Justin of "sabotage"! Andy Dingley (talk) 00:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

"Stop screwing around with a featured article" you say. Do you mean stop adding correct, interesting and relevant information ? I think I will have to think very carefully whether I bother adding any more correct, interesting and relevant information to any Aircraft page, particularly any page with any kind of award. The only people who will lose out are the poor forgotten readers, and who cares about them !
And yes, I do think that many self appointed super editors are more bothered about protocol and their rankings/awards than about the actual users of Misplaced Pages. Dealing with them is incredibly frustrating, it reminds me of dealing with inflexible pedantic civil servants (not that I think all civil servants are flexible and pedantic, I hasten to add ! ).--JustinSmith (talk) 09:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

You keep accusing other editors of being "self-appointed super editors" only bothered with protocol and rankings awards? Who appointed you to be the Protocol-Buster, and what entitled you to treat other editors and their work with so much contempt? If you're so convinced that you're right why not put some more effort into finding solid sources instead of having a go at everyone else because you cannot find the relevant information?◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 10:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I`m not a "Protocol Buster", self appointed or otherwise, I simply think that there should be some flexibility when something interesting and informative is obviously correct, such as a die proving that Merlin cranks were forged flat. Worrying about whether a page will lose its ranking if it includes relevant and correct information is, it seems to me, putting the cart before the horse and getting priorities all wrong. The vast majority of people who use Misplaced Pages have no idea what all the these page ranks mean, they aren`t interested, and neither am I really. I do tend to think that there are Wikipedians who are more bothered about page ranking than interesting content but I have never assumed bad faith, I just don`t agree with, or understand, those priorities. Hopefully, if I remember, this saga will never be repeated because I`m not going to bother adding anything to any page with any ranking particularly if it`s an Aircraft page. And that, is unfortunate, not for me, but for anyone who may have read the information I may have added.
I hope I have clarified my position.--JustinSmith (talk) 17:46, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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It is not the first page I`ve started, but, do you know what ? Every other page had the same "we think this page should be deleted tag" put on it, then went on to get reasonable numbers of hits, every one, without exeception. What makes me even more annoyed is I didn`t want to waste my time starting a page then getting nto arguments with other Misplaced Pages editors so I put discussions on two Misplaced Pages railway pages and not only did nobody say we think that`s a bad idea, but nobody stated there was another page the same, which they wouldn`t because, as it happens, there isn`t. As far as I can tell that new page has been deleted and I`m pretty annoyed about it, to be frank I`ve got better things to do with my time. As one can tell from my talk page I`m slowly getting more and more disenchanted with Misplaced Pages. --JustinSmith (talk) 08:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Two pages I started (Both proposed for deletion....)
Erna Petri av page hits in last 20 days = 12 (= @4500 per year)
Fiesta Nightclub av hits in past 20 days = 6 (= @2200 per year)--JustinSmith (talk) 08:54, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Actually I`ve just remembered the other new page I put on Misplaced Pages - "Operation Sea Lion : The Sandhurst Wargame", that was also proposed for deletion, over the last 90 days that had an average of 66 people on it per day, that`s about 24,000 per year..... Maybe I do know a bit about what Misplaced Pages readers want to read ?.--JustinSmith (talk) 10:52, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

I've restored this to Draft:UK railway station openings / reopenings by year where you can work on it without the threat of deletion. I think there's room for two articles - the history article can cover the basics for the casual reader who just wants to know why trains are more popular now than in the 1980s, while your list article can cater for the (for want of a better term) "trainspottery" type of reader. Erna Petri was proposed for deletion, but was declined, so it's still here. If you need help with biographies of women, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Women in Red can be of assistance. Ritchie333 15:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for that R, I`m prepared to put significantly more on that page so long as I can be sure my time won`t be wasted, if you know what I mean ! I agree there`s room for both pages, particularly as the new page should go back further, to Beeching or even beyond.--JustinSmith (talk) 17:03, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

The only real caveat with drafts is that if you don't edit it for six months it will be considered "abandoned", but other than that, nobody should be touching it. When you think the draft is ready to go live, click on the "Submit this draft" button. You'll want a decent lead for the list that explains the context, and there are more formatting options you can have for lists, but get the basics in place first and we'll worry about that later. Oh, you'll want to add in-line citations to sources before the draft goes live. If you've got any other questions, drop me a line or post a message at the Teahouse. Ritchie333 17:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for that R. The Railfuture publication I have list all opening from 1965 to 2017, how do I cite that for all the entries I`m adding between those dates without having to do a separate citation for every line....... Any entries added later (out of that date range) or by others may have other references. After all we are talking about commonly known dates, what`s different is having them all in order and the same place !--JustinSmith (talk) 09:30, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

If it's one single reference, define it once with <ref name=railfuture></ref> and then refer to it with <ref name=railfuture/>. Referencing for beginners has more information. Ritchie333 17:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Wikimath

1978 NHRA Summernationals. 1971 NHRA Winternationals. NHRA Winternationals. NHRA Summernationals. Frank Manzo. That's just today. I have things I'd rather be doing than cleaning up formatting when you've made it impossible to tell who the author is, & I have no intention of chasing down the source you used (& presumably have access to) to fix a formatting error you made & refused to fix. TREKphiler 21:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

The fact of the matter is you`re probably removing something you don`t agree with (as though facts can be disagreed with...) and used arcane editing rules as an excuse to do so. But even if that isn`t you`re motivation then as a Misplaced Pages editor why is your first choice action to delete rather than improve when you have said you know how to properly (in your view) enter a citation in an article and could therefore do it pretty quickly ? There are far too many Misplaced Pages editors of your mindset which is why I don`t contribute to Misplaced Pages much anymore and have stopped donating as well. It`s a pity because it`s the readers that are the ones who lose out.--JustinSmith (talk) 12:39, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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Your 'dowry' edit on OHMSS

Hi, I revoked your edit on 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service (film)'. A plot summary is 700 words or less and is a summary. You'd added a relatively long sentence on the dowry, a minor story point (excessive detail). In the film, the dowry appears twice and has no effect on the plot or actually on any other events seen in the film. I imagine it was put in because it appears in the book. It doesn't benefit the plot summary but does lengthen it disproportionately so I'd removed it. Summaries aren't intended as a step down from reading the script. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#Plot. Thanks. ToaneeM (talk) 09:53, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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