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Seeking for a mentor

Hello, Praxidicae! By chance I came across very good reviews about you and about your work on Misplaced Pages. I am a fairly experienced user of the Russian-language Misplaced Pages, I have the status of "auto-confirmed participants, loading, rolling back, patrolling" participants. I really want to develop in the English-language Misplaced Pages, to be useful, to implement interesting and necessary articles from Kazakhstan here. I am at a studio for learning English, so creating articles, and most importantly, challenging the verdicts of administrators is very difficult for me. I would really like to find an English-speaking friend and mentor. I am a very diligent and responsible student. I am ready to help with articles, search for the blind, learn, correct my mistakes. Now I need help to improve the articles of two Kazakhstanis that the country is proud of. They have put Kazakhstan on the world's innovation card. Perhaps you could take your time and share some tips and tricks. The administrator who transferred my articles to Draft, unfortunately, did not respond to my message. Thanks in advance! And I apologize for the disturbance. Deviloper (talk) 07:52, 9 June 2021‎ (UTC)

Kabeer Khurana

See my comment at Talk:Kabeer Khurana Jeepday (talk) 14:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm concerned about a lot of your declines, Jeepday, going through AFC doesn't negate speedy deletions and isn't insulation against deletion and more importantly this absolutely didn't go through AFC and the person who moved it is an SPA. So thank you for forcing this into yet another low participation, pointless AFD when consensus was already established less than two months ago. CUPIDICAE💕 15:26, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Jeepday, I have overruled your decline, because the draft is nearly identical (only one reference different), which is the textbook example of an appropriate G4. Primefac (talk) 15:29, 6 April 2022 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

• Jeepday your lack of response here is concerning given WP:ADMINACCT. I'm concerned about a lot of your speedy declines which are being overruled and pointlessly sent to AFD and subsequently deleted anyway. Can you please comment on the above and what you plan to do going forward evaluating these? CUPIDICAE💕 22:40, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

And even more mind boggling is your decline of Floyx. And I quote: The time of centralized social media is coming to an end. Floyx has seen both well-meaning and profit minded corporations putting user identity, user wellness and user’s freedom of expression at risk. Blockchain allows Floyx to decentralize identity management and create online personas that does not need a central authority to certify identity, and by extension delete the identity. Decentralization brings the real world and online personas closer - it enables metaverse by letting your virtual-self live without permission from others. By connecting biometrics with user’s wallet, Floyx solve for authenticity and non-cancelable identity.. This is like an actual encyclopedic definition of what G11 is intended for. If a non-admin consistently had this many CSD declines overruled, they'd probably be topic banned. And if you want to make the argument that we can remove the promotional stuff, well, you'd be wrong because we'd have a blank page if you removed the promotional gibberish and copyright violations. CUPIDICAE💕 22:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Everyone has different ideas of "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" is, clearly you and I are on different, ends of the spectrum. Also removing a speedy tag is not an admin action, anyone other then the OP may remove it. I have always been high on assuming good faith. WP:AGF "Assuming good faith (AGF) is a fundamental principle on Misplaced Pages. It is the assumption that editors' edits and comments are made in good faith – that is, the assumption that people are not deliberately trying to hurt Misplaced Pages, even when their actions are harmful." Can you please clarify where you believe WP:ADMINACCT comes into play on this topic? Jeepday (talk) 11:23, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Help!

Hi Praxidicae, Wanted to check on the article for StrongNode Edge which you moved to draft. May I get some direction to move out of it.

I am following Original Gamer Life (a gaming firm) & this is one of it's related firms which released a crypto token. This is not my business. Thanks a ton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishwasthakkar (talk • contribs) 15:28, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Heads up!

Dear Praxidicae, I've been dragged into ANI by an SPA for agreeing with your draftification move at Draft:BoAt Lifestyle. I guess its a case of WP:SOCK/WP:UPE. -Hatchens (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey!

What specific objections do you have with the edit? Thanks. KlayCax (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker), KlayCax, I’m not Praxidicae, the problem they have with the edit is that it appears dubious as described by Praxi, the reason or problem they have with the article was documented in their edit summary, you should have checked to see the edit summary first. Celestina007 (talk) 18:16, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Lovepantii (series) ‎

I've sent Lovepantii (series) to AFD after Tv serial wala moved it (again) out of draft space. It's disruptive, the impatience smells of WP:UPE, but it's the only option at this point. Thoughts would be appreciated. Ravensfire (talk) 16:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Yeah it's an LTA and it's been going on forever. Ill weigh in after work. CUPIDICAE💕 16:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I was about to mention this is probably a sock, but I'm so freaking worn out dealing with the endless chain of socks in this area that I can't put the effort in to chasing the master and getting the SPI rolling. Sorry for that. Ravensfire (talk) 16:16, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Wait a sec, this is Leo Francis 92/Leofrancis 355. I'll try to get the SPI up this evening. Socks interrupting my work time... without even doing anything! Ravensfire (talk) 19:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Way too long of a day yesterday, but the SPI is filed - Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Leo_Francis_92. Ravensfire (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Walkman

Hello. I have restored my version on Walkman S Series as I think you're mistaken. The previous version of the article was very incomplete: it did not list all models/series, and the specifications sheet only has two entries when there exist about 10 different players - I spent time building a complete sheet. Also, the infobox is inaccurate because this is a series of many different players instead of just one. I have also added a large number of references that the article lacked before. This is why I have restored back. Hope you understand, thanks. --Morita Akio (talk) 17:22, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

It's poorly sourced where there are sources and the rest isn't sourced, so I've restored to the last stable version. Get consensus on the talk page. CUPIDICAE💕 17:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

If you think it is poorly sourced, the previous version was much more poorer - there were only 4 references before. If anything I have made a good improvement in that aspect, and I am continuing to improve this. --Morita Akio (talk) 17:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Article for deletion: Che route

Thanks for reverting my deletion of the Afd tag. It wasn't intentional, just carelessness after making a very large edit. I did most of it in the Sandbox, and pasted the whole of my last Sandbox version over the whole of the English article, without checking that I was deleting something important. Sorry: it won't happen again (I hope). Athel cb (talk) 16:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Tracey Medeiros

Uh, what happened here? I was doing a round-robin move requested at WP:RM/TR, but I couldn't do step 3 (filling space at Draft:Tracey Medeiros again) because you had created a duplicate of the article I had just moved. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 21:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

I was trying to clean up the bad references - this really shouldn't have been moved and should've stayed as a redirect. Guess I'll just AFD it now. CUPIDICAE💕 21:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Ah; I'm guessing I moved the page while you were editing it. The author was already warned about publishing it in its current state, and the move was only prevented by technical reasons (redirect in the way), so I performed the move (I don't believe the subject is notable, and I wouldn't have published it myself). I've redirected Draft:Tracey Medeiros. Thanks for your work! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 21:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Your comment

Hi, I saw your comment on my wall and that you deleted it. First up, hi, I review AFD daily and look for articles about women, as part of my efforts to address gender imbalance on Misplaced Pages. I had not noticed who nominated them for AfD. So just to reassure you that this is nothing to do with you, and just something I've been doing for a while.

CT55555 (talk) 23:15, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

And I was quick to write that, because I was concerned that anyone would think I was giving them a hard time here, that is not my style at all.

So just some extra background, in the hope that it will reassure you, I am an active member of Women in Red. About 19% of biographies on Misplaced Pages are about women, yet about 41% of biographical articles nominated for deletion are about women. (Source: Gender bias on Misplaced Pages). So over recent months I've altered my actions here from not just creating articles about women, but trying to save appropriate ones from the deletion process.

If you look through my history, you'll see that I'm active at AfD usually trying to improve articles about women and people of colour in an attempt to make wikipedia more inclusive.

If you take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Ideas you'll see under "articles for deletion" my explanation of my actions, predating our interactions today.

I know wikipedia can be brutal at times, but I really want to reassure you my actions are not targeted at you and I'm sorry that you felt they were. CT55555 (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Sockpuppet?

Hello,
We have been in touch two years ago as part of Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Chdondon1990. I have recently observed some activities which reminds me about what has happened at the time:

• Mila vecto and Mr Nicolaus, Pierrich and مأزن are creating articles, mainly biographies of Tunisian actors and articles about MMA (for ex. UAE Warriors which I saw you have considered for deletion). They are mainly active in WP:en, WP:fr and WP:simple and keep on translating (or trying to translate) the others' articles in multiple languages.
• Georges st and Slimphotographer are simultaneously uploading pictures for the same articles, and always logging OTRS tickets (quite unusual for newbies).

What do you think? Does it deserve to reopen a new investigation? Moumou82 (talk) 07:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Absolutely! I knew they were evading a block. I'm currently fighting off another bout of covid, so don't have the energy to file myself, though. CUPIDICAE💕 12:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Take care of yourself. I realize they are not much active in WP:en so I expect we cannot have an investigation here, so will keep them under my radar for now. Moumou82 (talk) 13:11, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Katie Brennan

Ok i reverted yours and you reverted mine. Easily sorted. What does RS mean in the comment to your reversion of my edits? Real life sources?

Please advise.

Thanks

Benawu2 (talk) 08:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Archana Jois

Hello Praxidicae. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Archana Jois, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Hi Prax. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Archana Jois was in early 2019. Special:Contributions/Robert_McClenon - someone whose opinion we both respect - has requested that this not be speedily deleted, and I am happy to trust that request. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Rollback use

Hi, I noticed you using the rollback feature on what appeared to be a good faith addition of a source: , and had a quick scroll through your recent contributions and saw similar uses of the rollback feature: reverting the removal of sources from a lead: (a good faith edit that appears reasonable in view MOS:LEADCITE), and this good faith but unsourced edit: .

WP:ROLLBACKUSE says that the rollback feature is generally meant for vandalism and such things, and that Use of standard rollback for any other purposes – such as reverting good-faith changes which you happen to disagree with – is likely to be considered misuse of the tool. Any of those three edits I mentioned above you could have reason to disagree with, but if you disagree with them it would be better to explain why in an edit summary. I think new users seeing their edits reverted without any explanation might tend to drive them away from the project. Endwise (talk) 15:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

MY explanation was on the talk page for the second, they're also not a new user and it did look like vandalism and the first was a mistake however that user is an actual spammer, so it's moot. CUPIDICAE💕 15:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

And no this does not appear to be a good faith edit, completely changing the name of the article. CUPIDICAE💕 15:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) @Endwise, you might find reading the relevant policy and fully understanding it to be salient before leaving a wrong assertion on arguably the most proficient editor in the history of the English Misplaced Pages. Celestina007 (talk) 23:36, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

You Have Been Reported for Violating Misplaced Pages's 3RR Rule

You have reverted changes on the Soborno Isaac Bari page at least 3 times in under a 24-hour time period, thus violating the 3RR rule. You have been reported for edit warring and will now face sanctions and blocking.

• (talk page stalker) @AnonMan64, which isn’t entirely the truth & earned you a well deserved block from Nick and rightfully so, If ever you are unblocked which I’m doubtful of, please always sign your entries. Celestina007 (talk) 23:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the R2 on Patolin. As soon as I saw the tag on my watchlist, I realized I forgot a clean-up step. Fastily deleted it before I could hit the "thanks" button. Everyone is so quick! Schazjmd (talk) 20:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

No worries, I have a filter I use for RC that specifically is for new page moves by users who probably shouldn't be moving them so that popped up fast for me. :) CUPIDICAE💕 20:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

You can use a cup of tea after dealing with those sockpuppets Robert McClenon (talk) 23:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Some words of wisdom

Take it easy bro. You've already made enough moolah to have a comfortable retirement. We all know that you've been in the biz for years, and it's hard work. Also forgot to say, thanks for generating all those of potential clients and tracking down competitors, giving yourself and everybody an endless stream of lucrative work to do. But keep in mind, life is short, enjoy it while it lasts. Spend a bit more time away from the screen with family, friends, pets, community. In your dotage, you won't regret quality off-wiki time when your reminisce back on your life.

"Man is like a breath; his days are like a passing shadow." Psalm 144:4. SomeAncientSage (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

The fuck are you on about? CUPIDICAE💕 21:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Also lol because people criticize me for my lack of content work, so what is it that I'm supposed to get paid for? Enquiring, unemployed minds would like to know. :) CUPIDICAE💕 21:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I assume these are rhetorical questions? --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Kind of, I'm sure they'll be back, angry about their block. I wish I got paid to fuck around on Misplaced Pages. I'm sure my husband would like that too. CUPIDICAE💕 21:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Mistaken speedy deletion tag of Hyram Yarbro?

Per WP:SPAMPAGE, pages can be speedily deleted using {{db-spam}} when they are blatant examples of advertising. However, I'm not sure how you could possibly think the page Hyram Yarbro meets any of the criteria at Misplaced Pages:Identifying blatant advertising or at WP:G11. The criteria is meant for pages that are unambiguously and solely attempting to promote a product, service, or individual and has no other goal at all such that it would need to be fundamentally rewritten to be encyclopedically acceptable (rather than tweaked in a few areas for tone for example). Just making sure this tag wasn't in error? Alduin2000 (talk) 21:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Just a single example: ged 18, Yarbro moved from Arizona to Honolulu, Hawaii in 2014 to study at Brigham Young University. There, he studied international cultural studies, peacebuilding, anthropology, and entrepreneurship. While at college, Yarbro experienced premature aging and became passionate about skincare products when he used them and saw how effective they could be. He went on to work as a make-up artist at Saks Fifth Avenue. Whilst working there, he realised that consumers would buy expensive products to ensure they had the best skincare and began to question whether they were worth the price. Seeing that there weren't any resources online about skincare directed towards consumers, he decided to start his channel on YouTube with an ingredients-driven approach to providing advice on the subject. is nothing short of absolute promo. CUPIDICAE💕 21:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

This is biographical information that is relevant to an encyclopedic article, and reflects content in numerous reliable sources. Nonetheless, even if this is off in tone or is undue weight to what amounts to trivia (not the case imo but still), this doesn't really address what I'm saying. Articles are only eligible to be deleted under G11 if they are (quoting here) "exclusively promotional". In Misplaced Pages:Identifying blatant advertising, this is expanded on as "Blatant advertising is an article or a page that's created, worded, and designed for the sole and intentional purpose of selling or promoting an idea, product, or service." I think tone or due weight issues in the article (if they exist) clearly do not amount to the page being exclusively promotional. Anyway, I was just checking. I think the tag is clearly in error but if it wasn't a mistake it will be decided upon by an admin. Have a good day. Alduin2000 (talk) 22:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

It is heavily promotional beyond saving. Obviously if an admmin disagrees, they'll decline it. In the mean time, I'm not removing it. CUPIDICAE💕 22:03, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm sorry for removing the sources that you added to the article, I was so caught up in fixing it that I didn't even realize it reverted your sources. X-Editor (talk) 23:37, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I can't tell if you or I doubled them or what, so no biggie. CUPIDICAE💕 23:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Review a Draft Article

Hello Please review this draft Article Draft:Tonni Laha Roy if he notable on Misplaced Pages move his name. I think he is notable because he acted notable television show. Shweta Bhattacharya there are same catogry actress please check my draft Article Tanvirnahid565 (talk) 20:21, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I do not expedite reviews or review on demand, sorry. CUPIDICAE💕 20:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Kyla Carter

Thanks for getting that speedied. I tried earlier today, but was basically told there was nothing wrong with the article or the creator. I was going to take the whole mess to ANI, but now I don't have to. :) Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

huh?! Who said there's nothing wrong with that article? CUPIDICAE💕 16:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

When I requested speedy this morning (I had it on the watchlist) on the basis that it had been deleted following an earlier AfD, the attending admin declined, saying it can't have been the same as the AfD'd one because it had some new sources. I tried to explain that it had in the meantime been republished several times, and the creator in any case had a COI and shouldn't have been publishing directly anyway, but nothing doing.

This may have been partly because it was this time under 'Kyla Carter' (moved there from 'The Kyla carter'), whereas much of the earlier shenanigans was under 'Kyla carter', so possibly not immediately obvious unless you knew where to look. With all the moves and draftifyings etc., the histories were a mess.

I also have a feeling there may be some puppetry behind this, going back to the earlier AfD (albeit a few years ago now), and I was thinking I might have to open a SPI, but now the creator has been indeffed anyway, so maybe that's the end of it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

I can't go too far into it but a simple google search of said user will provide a lot of insight (and they should absolutely be blocked indef because quite frankly it's creepy.) PRAXIDICAE💕 16:21, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Might have a look, if I feel the need for a good scare in the small hours.

Meanwhile, in the first edit of this version Draft:Kyla Carter the creator seems to imply they are the article subject.

Odd. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:33, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Amit Riyaan - deletion discussion

Thanks for your note - I sent it to AfD as I agree there are concerns with the article. -- Tawker (talk) 18:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't think we read the same article, it's nothing short of a poorly sourced advertisement, regurgitated from the standard Indian churnalism. PRAXIDICAE💕 18:42, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Article review

Hello Praxidicae, Can you review my article Draft:Ajlan Alajlan? thank you. Dahomvic (talk) 18:45, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

I do not review articles on demand or expedite reviews as there are thousands waiting. But if I were to review it right now, I'd decline it as an advertisement and poorly sourced. PRAXIDICAE💕 18:46, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

thanks Praxidicae. I'm an editor at the Arabic Wiki, but 90% of the sources are Arabic. I Do not use the article as an advertisement because the person is very famous in the region. What should I do? Dahomvic (talk) 19:09, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi; I'm an uninvolved editor, and for clarity sake I didn't even look at the draft, but if what Praxidicae says is true, then I'd suggest reading WP:NPOV and WP:RS to address these concerns. Thanks! — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 19:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dahomvic—Courtesy ping. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 19:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @3PPYB6 My point is the lack of sources that are in English maybe only dozens, unlike Arabic sources. My question is can I use Arabic sources? Dahomvic (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dahomvic—Of course! Misplaced Pages accepts any source that is reliable, even if it is in a different language. You'll just have to translate the Arabic into English. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 20:05, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

LH Research woes

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Geoman3 (talk) 15:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)"}}

Questions

Currently, a college student who is working on the mental health article with you as well. I saw that you got rid of the bipolar disorder section that I added just wanted to know why? Considering the mayo clinic is a scholarly article that is reviewed by multiple doctors. And bipolar disorder is a major problem that should be discussed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truegod123 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

You added an entire section that basically said "exercising cures all" which is unsupported by RS and please take a read of WP:MEDRS before editing again. PRAXIDICAE💕 16:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Deletion Process

Hello Praxidicae,

thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions, as I mentioned to you, I am NOT being paid, I really would like to know what can I edit on the article to make it accepeted. I have the media stories, medical journals, what else is needed? Thank you.Andrecanada (talk) 16:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

So what's your connection to her, then Andrecanada? PRAXIDICAE💕 16:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for asking Praxdicae,

I am her husband, and I promised you that no profit is being made from this horrifc accident. is that a cause for the deletion ? Andrecanada (talk) 16:53, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

The warning also includes WP:COI which I suggest you read. PRAXIDICAE💕 16:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

ok, I saw all the way on te bottom, I have no problem disclosing it, It is no secret that I am a huge burn advocate since my wifes accident, if I add a disclaimer. would that make the article approved? also, two users just message me, offering to write the article, since they follow her story and felt compelled after seeing the deletion request, what do you advise? i want to follow the rules. Thank you for your time and knowledge. Andrecanada Andrecanada (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

No because it still doesn't mean she's notable and this is still a case of WP:BLP1E. You disclosing is a matter of policy, it just means you won't be blocked for an undisclosed COI. It isn't insulation against other actions or guarantee of an article. PRAXIDICAE💕 17:01, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Praxie, i see that you edit some parts of the article, fine, but why continue to suggest deletion? now the only info there is the medical facts. how can we come to an agreement ? Andrecanada (talk) 17:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I've already adequately explained why. I suggest you stick to one account or tell whomever you are editing alongside with to cease disruptively removing the tag before you both wind up blocked. Also my name is not Praxie. PRAXIDICAE💕 17:31, 25 April 2022 (UTC)