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didn't just make me spil my drink on my keyboard. I'm going to look for sources too ;-) |
didn't just make me spil my drink on my keyboard. I'm going to look for sources too ;-) ] 22:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Haha, actually, personally, I prefer the corners of walls in hallways and doorways. Perhaps that can go under "See also."--] (<sup>]</sup>-<sub>]</sub>) 22:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC) | :Haha, actually, personally, I prefer the corners of walls in hallways and doorways. Perhaps that can go under "See also."--] (<sup>]</sup>-<sub>]</sub>) 22:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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==just a question on your recent post ‘consonant-vowel harmony’== | |||
On the and in general, because East Asian languages in general have an archaic phonological process that is of a gliding (not glides) idiosyncrasy in sonorants and for a markedness in nasal, can the linguistic explanation of such occurrences be explained just as the ‘consonant- vowel harmony’ that is innate to a language because of the consonant-vowel interactions render natural constraints on vowel-consonant glides? | |||
My memory reveals that the phoneme /l/ can undergo either for a deletion or for a mutation for other consonants, whereas the nasal ‘n’ remains stationary unless for its varieties in the place of articulation or of its allophone. | |||
Thus, the linguistic description demonstrates that such effects of the natural constraints are likely to be non-artifacts; for being the case that is correlated with harmonic behavior in the language. | |||
Or is such phonological process a ‘head consonant rule’ in a language? Thanks. ] (]) 20:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I'm afraid I don't fully understand your question. Could you rephrase it? If you're asking whether the Korean Head Consonant Rule could be classified as vowel-consonant harmony, I don't think so. Even when it was active, it only affected word-initial sonorants, whereas what little I've read about vowel-consonant harmony makes me think that a vowel-consonant harmony rule would have to be a lot more productive (i.e. affecting more phonemes in more environments in the language) than the Head Consonant Rule was. Not to mention HCR mostly affected Korean loanwords, and hardly any native words.--] (<sup>]</sup>-<sub>]</sub>) 03:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Understood--thanks for the reply. | |||
::Now I like to share a few thoughts about ‘phonetic equipment’ (if you do not mind). Because there are unknown waves in surroundings, i am also thinking about how one could possibly do correct phonetic analyses in the future unless a room is a sound proofed one. The ‘phonetic equipments’, not the one that you mentioned about (but in general), seems like exclusive power toys of a few and for their use. That is, in this information age, a word or words can still be phonetically realized without an act of utterance and just by even when a person sneezes or coughs. We also see that such plays of sound interceptions are increasing also in a way that an individual cannot have no longer control over his/her communication, like, for example, a friendly message of a sender be as an unfriendly message when receiving by interception (specially phonetically). | |||
::I just added a few lines (i understand that it is not worthy of your time for comments) ] (]) 04:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Thank you for your thoughts.--] (<sup>]</sup>-<sub>]</sub>) 04:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
== with == | |||
I agree that prepositions should be ended sentences with. ] (]) 15:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
== dative objects == | |||
Hello. | |||
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The thread you started on dative objects has gone off in various directions that don't bear directly on your question, and you don't seem to be around here very much. Here are some excerpts that do. ]'s comments make clear a really essential difference between dative and accusative objects. ] (]) 17:44, 11 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
=== begin excerpt === | |||
Verbs in German that take only dative objects include these: | |||
: gefallen, gehören, helfen, begegnen, folgen, dienen, huldigen, beitreten, weichen, aus | weichen, nach | gehen, widerfahren, entgegen | fiebern, antworten | |||
(I've indicated separability of prefixes with a vertical slash.) I don't think these are properly considered transitive verbs. ] (]) 15:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
I think there are also verbs that can take both a direct object and an indirect object and you don't have to include both. Thus: | |||
:: Sie glaubt ihm jedes Wort. | |||
:: Sie glaubt ihm. | |||
:: Sie glaubt jedes Wort. | |||
The second sentence above has an indirect object and no direct object (that never happens in English, AFAIK). ] (]) 15:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
Here's a relevant question: Do sentences using ''helfen'', ''folgen'', etc., with their dative objects, admit passive transformations in which those objects become subjects? ] (]) 15:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
:No. These verbs form impersonals rather than passives and the dative object remains in the dative, but thanks to the freedom of German word order, the dative object can move to the front of the sentence. Thus German for "The boy was helped" is ''Dem Jungen wurde geholfen''. Making a true passive out of one of these verbs sounds childish in German: ] made some commercials using the slogan "Hier werden Sie geholfen" (instead of grammatical "Hier wird Ihnen geholfen"), which was playing on her image as a dumb bimbo. ] (]) 16:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:Thank you for your constructive comments to this thread that unfortunately other editors took off topic, as you mentioned. I guess it was because it was one of the very few questions on the language desk for that day. :) --] (<sup>]</sup>-<sub>]</sub>) 05:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Reference question
Hello, I have made a late reply to your reference desk question:
- I have successfully used my US laptop, US digital camera, US cell phone charger (just to get at my phone book - the phone itself does not work in Japan) and US iPod many times in Japan. The difference between 110 and 100 is not significant, generally. As Kjoon says, your power adaptor should give you the allowable ranges. One thing you may have a problem with, however, is the shape of the plug. Some US plugs are polarized so the neutral blade that is wider than the other. Most Japanese plugs are not polarized and therefore your wide neutral blade may not fit. Also, most Japanese plugs in hotels (at least the ones I have stayed at) seem to be ungrounded. So, if you have a plug with a third prong, it will not fit. The solution is to buy a 3-prong to 2-prong converter. Instead of a fancy travel pack with lots of adaptors you don't need (at least for your current trip), you can find this at almost any big hardware store and it should cost less than $1. Finally, most hotels don't have enough power outlets to cover all the gadgets you will bring with you. Therefore, you may want to bring a small 6 outlet power strip. Johntex\ 20:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- For more info see ]. Johntex\ 20:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Teeth during pregnancy
Please note that a discussion on the talk page about whether this question constitutes medical advice may be found here: . StuRat (talk) 05:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your userpage.
Greetings,
Just some things I noticed...
Your userpage currently reads página de usario while it should be página de usuario. Also, esta página de usuario incompleta va creciendo sounds a little strange to me. As a native Spanish speaker, I'd use esta página de usuario es un trabajo en progreso (this user page is a work in progress) or a similar sentence. Perhaps it's just me, but va creciendo seems to be rather inappropriate in this context, at least in my dialect (castellano rioplatense).
Have a nice day,
― Ann ( user | talk ) 01:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Didn't mean to do that
Woops —Preceding unsigned comment added by Look Baby, I'm a Fascist (talk • contribs) 02:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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Award!
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
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Rollback using Huggle?
Hi El aprendelenguas, I note this edit you made, apparently using rollback via Huggle, with no edit summary. My understanding is that using rollback is much the same as declaring the edit to be vandalism. In this case, the IP's edit seems to me to be clearly in good faith. It is badly spelt and certainly requires a source to support the claim of "largest", but I feel deserves an edit summary so the user can understand why their edit was reverted. I noticed this while reverting a series of edits along these lines by the IP, all made in good faith but all with bad results. In each case, I used an edit summary - in your case, I would have used the same edit summary as I did here. Regards! Franamax (talk) 05:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your suggestion. You're right; the edit deserved a summary. I will provide one when I revert good-faith edits in the future.--El aprendelenguas (talk) 01:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Harding Wyatt
I've removed your G1 from this page and replaced it with G10. (attack page) This should get it deleted faster. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you.--El aprendelenguas (talk) 02:44, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Kadiyapulanka declined speedy, cleaned up, and expanded
It's a place in India. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 03:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Don't put thoughts in my head
Your remark "I could write an article on the misuse of doorknobs for back-scratchers"
didn't just make me spil my drink on my keyboard. I'm going to look for sources too ;-) SIS 22:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, actually, personally, I prefer the corners of walls in hallways and doorways. Perhaps that can go under "See also."--el Aprel (-facienda) 22:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
IPA on "Data"
Hello! I noticed you placed the IPA for nonstandard pronunciation tag atop the article data. I'm not sure what you would like to see transcribed in IPA. Could you explain? And I'd be happy to add the IPA.--el Aprel (-facienda) 23:22, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
- Right at the end of the Etymology section, where it says “Pronounced dey-tuh, dat-uh, or dah-tuh.”. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:58, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Sandbox edits
- LOL, ur warning says 2 use the sandbox 4 editing tests and thats wat i did but ur telling me i cant edit there. lololololololololololololololololol where can i make edit tests without warnings lolololololol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.83.51.163 (talk) 23:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hello! Yes, you can change the content in the sandbox as much as you like, but you cannot change the sandbox template heading {{Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading)}} when editing. Otherwise, have fun!--el Aprel (-facienda) 18:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
"Comment on content, not on the contributor"
- This philosphy is flawed. Misplaced Pages would be completely anonymous were it for the need of certain users, such as yourself, to inflate their ego by asserting their authority. If wikipedia was supposed to be completely removed from its users, why am I reminded to sign my entry with 4 tildes? Why have you moved up the ranks to WikiPaladin Level 19? I'm all for a neutral encyclopedia, however, I will not submit myself to the egos of "higher" wikipedia users. The comments made on the Shoot 'Em Up talk page were neither attacks nor vandalism. Relevant information was intentionally excluded from the article and on the ridiculous "accusation" of "original research." I think this is the greatest crime that can be committed on a truly all inclusive and unbiased encyclopedia. And of course you'll disagree, I am a peon in this mess of a social website. You will delete this entry and post another warning on my talk page and you'll cite some wikipedia article that defends you (its author) against me (its reader) and wikipedia will continue to "grow" whilst the rest of the regular population continues to shrink. Good day to you, I hope you enjoy revising wikipedia entries.Drfool (talk) 20:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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WikiProject Linguistics
Hey El, I noticed some of your edits and I was just wondering if you're a member of WikiProject Linguistics or any of the projects under its umbrella. The projects don't seem super-active, but they're at least a good place to see what articles need written or cleaned up.
I do a lot of work on articles relating to neurolinguistics (I'm slowly trying to work Neurolinguistics itself up to GA and eventually FA) and a bit less on syntax (mostly on stuff having to do with aspects) and discourse-y stuff, so maybe I'll see you around sometime! —Politizer /contribs 22:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Politizer! I checked out the Linguistics WikiProject, but I'm not sure how much of a help I could be. Usually my contributions are small because most of the articles I know enough that I could make significant contributions to are already well developed. I wish the Wikiproject (or its subproject with phonetics) had a group to add IPA pronunciations to articles. I think that's something Misplaced Pages needs some help with.
- Good work on the neurolinguistics article. You've really made some improvements!--el Aprel (-facienda) 21:50, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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just a question on your recent post ‘consonant-vowel harmony’
On the OP and in general, because East Asian languages in general have an archaic phonological process that is of a gliding (not glides) idiosyncrasy in sonorants and for a markedness in nasal, can the linguistic explanation of such occurrences be explained just as the ‘consonant- vowel harmony’ that is innate to a language because of the consonant-vowel interactions render natural constraints on vowel-consonant glides?
My memory reveals that the phoneme /l/ can undergo either for a deletion or for a mutation for other consonants, whereas the nasal ‘n’ remains stationary unless for its varieties in the place of articulation or of its allophone.
Thus, the linguistic description demonstrates that such effects of the natural constraints are likely to be non-artifacts; for being the case that is correlated with harmonic behavior in the language.
Or is such phonological process a ‘head consonant rule’ in a language? Thanks. Mr.Bitpart (talk) 20:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't fully understand your question. Could you rephrase it? If you're asking whether the Korean Head Consonant Rule could be classified as vowel-consonant harmony, I don't think so. Even when it was active, it only affected word-initial sonorants, whereas what little I've read about vowel-consonant harmony makes me think that a vowel-consonant harmony rule would have to be a lot more productive (i.e. affecting more phonemes in more environments in the language) than the Head Consonant Rule was. Not to mention HCR mostly affected Korean loanwords, and hardly any native words.--el Aprel (-facienda) 03:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Understood--thanks for the reply.
- Now I like to share a few thoughts about ‘phonetic equipment’ (if you do not mind). Because there are unknown waves in surroundings, i am also thinking about how one could possibly do correct phonetic analyses in the future unless a room is a sound proofed one. The ‘phonetic equipments’, not the one that you mentioned about (but in general), seems like exclusive power toys of a few and for their use. That is, in this information age, a word or words can still be phonetically realized without an act of utterance and just by even when a person sneezes or coughs. We also see that such plays of sound interceptions are increasing also in a way that an individual cannot have no longer control over his/her communication, like, for example, a friendly message of a sender be as an unfriendly message when receiving by interception (specially phonetically).
- I just added a few lines (i understand that it is not worthy of your time for comments) Mr.Bitpart (talk) 04:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your thoughts.--el Aprel (-facienda) 04:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
with
I agree that prepositions should be ended sentences with. Michael Hardy (talk) 15:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
dative objects
Hello.
The thread you started on dative objects has gone off in various directions that don't bear directly on your question, and you don't seem to be around here very much. Here are some excerpts that do. Angr's comments make clear a really essential difference between dative and accusative objects. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
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Verbs in German that take only dative objects include these:
- gefallen, gehören, helfen, begegnen, folgen, dienen, huldigen, beitreten, weichen, aus | weichen, nach | gehen, widerfahren, entgegen | fiebern, antworten
(I've indicated separability of prefixes with a vertical slash.) I don't think these are properly considered transitive verbs. Michael Hardy (talk) 15:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I think there are also verbs that can take both a direct object and an indirect object and you don't have to include both. Thus:
- Sie glaubt ihm jedes Wort.
- Sie glaubt ihm.
- Sie glaubt jedes Wort.
The second sentence above has an indirect object and no direct object (that never happens in English, AFAIK). Michael Hardy (talk) 15:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Here's a relevant question: Do sentences using helfen, folgen, etc., with their dative objects, admit passive transformations in which those objects become subjects? Michael Hardy (talk) 15:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- No. These verbs form impersonals rather than passives and the dative object remains in the dative, but thanks to the freedom of German word order, the dative object can move to the front of the sentence. Thus German for "The boy was helped" is Dem Jungen wurde geholfen. Making a true passive out of one of these verbs sounds childish in German: Verona Pooth made some commercials using the slogan "Hier werden Sie geholfen" (instead of grammatical "Hier wird Ihnen geholfen"), which was playing on her image as a dumb bimbo. Angr (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your constructive comments to this thread that unfortunately other editors took off topic, as you mentioned. I guess it was because it was one of the very few questions on the language desk for that day. :) --el Aprel (-facienda) 05:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
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