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| :::Certainly it was subrdinate to the Nazi command, but as I don't know administration stucture of Lithuanian territories under German occupation, I am afraid I cannot tell you how exactly was Yb or LSP or even LLD organized. There is, however, no doubt that it was a Lithuanian organization - in the same sense that ] were Polish and ] were Jewish. No POV pushing, just a widely accepted fact.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 01:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | :::Certainly it was subrdinate to the Nazi command, but as I don't know administration stucture of Lithuanian territories under German occupation, I am afraid I cannot tell you how exactly was Yb or LSP or even LLD organized. There is, however, no doubt that it was a Lithuanian organization - in the same sense that ] were Polish and ] were Jewish. No POV pushing, just a widely accepted fact.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 01:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ::::I will repat myself, from the article as it is now, it is not clear, that this organizatrion was under Nazi command - for a person who does not have any other information about it , this might be misleading.--] 09:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | ::::I will repat myself, from the article as it is now, it is not clear, that this organizatrion was under Nazi command - for a person who does not have any other information about it , this might be misleading.--] 09:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
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| Recently using that YB consisted of 'Lithuanians, Poles and Russians'. It is the first time I heard that YB consisted of anybody else then Lithuanians and Germans - please provide the quotes and translation of the relevant part of the article to back up such claims. I find it interesting that the original creator of this article, ], didn't find such claims in the article he used for primary reference.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Since they weren't prisoners themselves, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they were the Lithuanian equivalent of the Einsatzgruppen? Wilhelm Ritter 14:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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What do you mean by Lithuanian? Did Lithuania form those units? Were they subordinate to Lithuanian republic? Or were they subordinate to Third Reich and formed by Third Reich? Were they referred by higher commanding officers as an Ypatingasis būtys or rather Sonderkomando or Einsatzgruppen?. Just curious, no POV pushing.--Lokyz 20:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I assume it means that they were composed primarily of Lithuanians...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Umh, this is not new for me, although it should have some field number by Third Reich army, doesn't it? Simple questions, because form th article it seems, that not for a single moment this unit was under any upper command from Germans, and furthermore it seems that it was acting under his own will, like moving all around on their own will in occupied Lithuania (or to be exact Reichskommissariat Ostland).--Lokyz 21:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Certainly it was subrdinate to the Nazi command, but as I don't know administration stucture of Lithuanian territories under German occupation, I am afraid I cannot tell you how exactly was Yb or LSP or even LLD organized. There is, however, no doubt that it was a Lithuanian organization - in the same sense that Blue Police were Polish and Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst were Jewish. No POV pushing, just a widely accepted fact.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 01:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- I will repat myself, from the article as it is now, it is not clear, that this organizatrion was under Nazi command - for a person who does not have any other information about it , this might be misleading.--Lokyz 09:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Certainly it was subrdinate to the Nazi command, but as I don't know administration stucture of Lithuanian territories under German occupation, I am afraid I cannot tell you how exactly was Yb or LSP or even LLD organized. There is, however, no doubt that it was a Lithuanian organization - in the same sense that Blue Police were Polish and Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst were Jewish. No POV pushing, just a widely accepted fact.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 01:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Umh, this is not new for me, although it should have some field number by Third Reich army, doesn't it? Simple questions, because form th article it seems, that not for a single moment this unit was under any upper command from Germans, and furthermore it seems that it was acting under his own will, like moving all around on their own will in occupied Lithuania (or to be exact Reichskommissariat Ostland).--Lokyz 21:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Poles and Russians in YB?
Recently M.K. claimed using this referece that YB consisted of 'Lithuanians, Poles and Russians'. It is the first time I heard that YB consisted of anybody else then Lithuanians and Germans - please provide the quotes and translation of the relevant part of the article to back up such claims. I find it interesting that the original creator of this article, User:Legionas, didn't find such claims in the article he used for primary reference.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 17:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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