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| * Thanks, Tony. This is a case where I don't think it really matters whether it's sock or meat, since either way SIARH is evading an ArbCom IBAN (which explicitly covers edits to the Gjøvik article). Furthermore, at least in the case of Sebastien, I'm pretty confident that this is true socking, owing to the distinctive edit summary I mentioned ("]"). There's a subtler tell shared with Bobrossghost that makes me favor the same conclusion there. Both sox {{bnt}}.{{pb}}I've gone back and forth on SquareInARoundHole. We don't normally indef for first-offense socking. SIARH is not a single-purpose account, so I am hesitant to unilaterally brand them NOTHERE. At the same time, serious sanctions are in order. SquareInARoundHole is '''blocked 1 month as an arbitration enforcement action for the IBAN violation, and an additional month for sockpuppetry'''. If there's a desire for broader sanctions than that, that can be discussed at ]. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 01:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | * Thanks, Tony. This is a case where I don't think it really matters whether it's sock or meat, since either way SIARH is evading an ArbCom IBAN (which explicitly covers edits to the Gjøvik article). Furthermore, at least in the case of Sebastien, I'm pretty confident that this is true socking, owing to the distinctive edit summary I mentioned ("]"). There's a subtler tell shared with Bobrossghost that makes me favor the same conclusion there. Both sox {{bnt}}.{{pb}}I've gone back and forth on SquareInARoundHole. We don't normally indef for first-offense socking. SIARH is not a single-purpose account, so I am hesitant to unilaterally brand them NOTHERE. At the same time, serious sanctions are in order. SquareInARoundHole is '''blocked 1 month as an arbitration enforcement action for the IBAN violation, and an additional month for sockpuppetry'''. If there's a desire for broader sanctions than that, that can be discussed at ]. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 01:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
| ** Noting also a factual finding that the various 2600:387::/32 IPs in ] are likely SIARH. No point in blocking, though, as that range has since been blocked due to an unrelated LTA. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 02:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ** Noting also a factual finding that the various 2600:387::/32 IPs in ] are likely SIARH. No point in blocking, though, as that range has since been blocked due to an unrelated LTA. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 02:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
| *** Noting also with SVTCobra about suspicious SPAs {{noping|Delhowder}} and {{noping|Wafflenugget}}. (TL;DR: No action, but reasonable to revert them.) <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 18:57, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/SquareInARoundHole/Archive.
13 June 2022
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Sebastien1118 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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I came across this issue after seeing this notification because I have the talk page of SquareInARoundHole added to my watchlist, having warned him earlier.
Sebastien1118 was created just 3 days ago and is sharing the same tactics as SquareInARoundHole.
Both are the largest contributors to Ashley Gjøvik, after GorillaWarfare, the former arbitrator.
Their edits can be best said to have adopted the approach of having the deepest but unbalanced analysis into one side of the dispute or have none. Something I also saw in the edits of SquareInARoundHole elsewhere.
Both make the same argument in order to object the sources they don't like. Such as claiming that sources "are not about the subject".
SquareInaRoundHole reported HazelBasil to be socking, and Sebastien1118 reported HazelBasil to be socking on ANI.
Their format of ANI reports is also very unique and the same.
Sebastien1118's first edit was to nominate the article on Ashley Gjovik for deletion. SquareInARoundHole is alleged to have COI with Ashley Gjovik as per Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 184 which remains 'unresolved'. TolWol56 (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Upon discovery of sock-puppetry, I would recommend indef block on all accounts because this is apparently a long-running issue and the suspected master's own history of unresolved COI, and disruptive editing needs to be addressed. I see that an IP related to HazelBasil has been blocked by Tamzin. They are welcome to take a look here. TolWol56 (talk) 23:33, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Tamzin and TonyBallioni: Thanks for your response.
- While the history of SquareInARoundHole (likely a sock himself) with Ashley Gjøvik has been already explained, he is also alleged of COI on Cher Scarlett where he made his 3rd edit and didn't take long to make a large edit to Ifeoma Ozoma, where he is also alleged of having COI.
- It seems Bobrossghost was also used for months for socking at Ashley Gjøvik. We can say that Gjøvik was herself not wrong by accusing SquareInARoundHole of harassment. This whole chapter looks like a clear case of WP:NOTHERE. TolWol56 (talk) 00:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Clerk endorsed based on shared priorities, some of the behavioral similarities presented above, and a distinctive edit summary I noticed. -- Tamzin (she/they) 23:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Likely to one another and to Bobrossghost (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). All three have slightly different UAs, so could be meat. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Tony. This is a case where I don't think it really matters whether it's sock or meat, since either way SIARH is evading an ArbCom IBAN (which explicitly covers edits to the Gjøvik article). Furthermore, at least in the case of Sebastien, I'm pretty confident that this is true socking, owing to the distinctive edit summary I mentioned ("MOS:STYLE"). There's a subtler tell shared with Bobrossghost that makes me favor the same conclusion there. Both sox
Blocked and tagged.I've gone back and forth on SquareInARoundHole. We don't normally indef for first-offense socking. SIARH is not a single-purpose account, so I am hesitant to unilaterally brand them NOTHERE. At the same time, serious sanctions are in order. SquareInARoundHole is blocked 1 month as an arbitration enforcement action for the IBAN violation, and an additional month for sockpuppetry. If there's a desire for broader sanctions than that, that can be discussed at WP:AN/I. -- Tamzin (she/they) 01:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Noting also a factual finding that the various 2600:387::/32 IPs in Special:PageHistory/Ashley Gjøvik are likely SIARH. No point in blocking, though, as that range has since been blocked due to an unrelated LTA. -- Tamzin (she/they) 02:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Noting also my exchange with SVTCobra about suspicious SPAs Delhowder and Wafflenugget. (TL;DR: No action, but reasonable to revert them.) -- Tamzin (she/they) 18:57, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Noting also a factual finding that the various 2600:387::/32 IPs in Special:PageHistory/Ashley Gjøvik are likely SIARH. No point in blocking, though, as that range has since been blocked due to an unrelated LTA. -- Tamzin (she/they) 02:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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