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| {{Unblock reviewed | I'm requesting the standard offer. It says to contact willing admins by e-mail/IRC but I can't find a list of the willing admins nor anyone's e-mails, so I'm just posting this. I have stayed away for over 6 months, and while I am not the world's most frequent Misplaced Pages contributor (I am not an expert on a lot of things), I believe I have made helpful contributions and can make more, and I'd like to move past the drama that took up all my time/attention before. ] (]) 17:05, 13 August 2015 (UTC) :What went wrong: I made a textbook example of disrupting Misplaced Pages to prove a point. 1000% guilty there. After that point (mid-February 2014), I think I was a lot better at keeping to the rules, but by then there were understandably very few people who had the time/inclination to bother with me. One person who did, retired admin SGGH, by saying my earlier behavior was "not particularly good" but later I had been "appropriate and diplomatic." But arguing about changing consensus for a contentious edit that is not that important was not going to convince many other editors, for obvious reasons. Going forward, to avoid a repeat of the situation I would: follow the rules very closely and ask if I was uncertain about the proper etiquette; work collaboratively and if faced with contentious editors, use the dispute resolution process and let the chips fall where they may; understand that not every edit is worth a huge amount of time fighting over; and remember that there's no time limit on improving an article so some things take time and that's fine. ] (]) 21:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :I've tweaked your block to allow editing this page - please confirm it's really you. I can post your request to ] and start an unblock discussion, but a more verbose request explaining what was wrong before and how you're going to avoid it in the future would improve your chances (from your current request it's less clear ). ] (]) 17:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, it's me. Let me know if you need more verification. I added to my post. If you could go to AN with this, I'd appreciate it. ] (]) 22:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{reply to|MaxSem}} Not sure if you saw my expanded post above. Could you let me know whether my request will move forward or not? Thanks. ] (]) 18:33, 20 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Sorry, lost track of this request. Here we go: ]. ] (]) 21:16, 22 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| Here's the original blog post I read that I had been trying to find for a while (note that the author refers readers to "longer version' in his book: | |||
| http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/07/a-quick-note-on-violence/259508/ | |||
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| http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/06/if-i-were-a-black-kid/276655/ | |||
| == Dril == | |||
| Here's another: | |||
| http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-littlest-schoolhouse/308132/ | |||
| Please could I ask u why u removed the lead sentence in Jack Nicholson's article about Dril? It's notable since there is already a Misplaced Pages article about him, and relevant as it shows Nicholson's place in popular culture. There was a source from a book describing Dril's notability, I see no reason for its removal. ] (]) 16:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Here's another: | |||
| http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/06/things-i-dont-understand/19326/ | |||
| :I didn't think the blurb was notable enough to belong in the lead section of the article. Perhaps in the body of the article in a "legacy" or "influence" section. ] (]) 18:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Here's a piece referring to the adult author's temptation to hit someone and how he resisted, using lessons from his upbringing: http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/10/a-culture-of-poverty/64854/ | |||
| Here's a piece discussing the author by highlighting his background (not sure if it's worthy of inclusion as a cite or not): | |||
| http://2014.wascarc.org/content/ta-nehisi-coates-why-we-teach-and-why-we-learn | |||
| That's four of the author's own blog posts, plus his book, totaling '''5 sources''', all mentioning his arrest and suspensions. If that's not reliable and notable enough, I don't know what is. Face it: the arrest is relevant to this guy. ] (]) 21:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| How are you choosing which editors to notify? --] <sup>'']''</sup> 20:01, 3 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : Based on who has more requests per month, so as not to use up the ones with only 1 or 2. ] (]) 20:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::: It says for example "limit 2 per calendar month" or "limit 10 per calendar month" so i am picking those who have allowed more than 5. ] (]) 20:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Ok, from ]? That's for a '''bot''' to use. A bot will notify random people. --] <sup>'']''</sup> 20:09, 3 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: According to this https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:RFC#Publicizing_an_RfC posting on Talk pages is allowed. ] (]) 20:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| It is impossible to deal with this if you all are constantly reverting and arguing in multiple venues. I've recollapsed the content; if you undo that, I'll block you from editing. --] (]) 02:40, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :See my comments there. Collapsing is a compromise that will likely leave everyone dissatisfied, but you are not to uncollapse again. You should probably read ] at some point, what your opponents were doing is not vandalism. Now, please feel free to calmly respond at ANI to comments raised about your editing. --] (]) 02:54, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :: You say I'm allowed to defend myself, then don't allow me to edit my own post. Your "compromise" is just their position. ] (]) 02:58, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::It is unnecessary to add the specific edit to your response in order to defend yourself. And yet, for some dumb reason, I've allowed it to remain, just collapsed. You understand that, right? It's there, but collapsed? if that isn't good enough for you, too bad. --] (]) 03:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::: I think it's clear some users hide their disruptiveness behind laughable claims of "BLP concern". But your "too bad" comment shows there's no use discussing it. Don't bother reply. ] (]) 03:24, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Good faith notice to stop and think about what you're doing. == | |||
| I'm a little nonplussed by your actions today. You're in the middle of an on the Admin noticeboard. It's the second time you have been in the last two days. You're attempting to erase a message from an admin, ], on the admin noticeboard itself. I don't know if you're trying to go down in a blaze of glory, but this isn't going to convince people your behavior is above reproach. You should consider focussing on your arguments and show that you can contribute more to the encyclopedia than this.] 21:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : I don't think changing that caption is very controversial - it says "for now" which means it's temporary, and the edit war's over. I didn't un-collapse it. It's MY reply, too. I think people reverting it are being remarkably small-minded. There's little purpose other than being difficult. Misplaced Pages has rules about being constructive, not making pointless conflicts. ] (]) 22:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::One of those rules is that you don't try to revert something more than three times in most cases ''even and especially when you think you're right''. If you were changing your own reply, it would be one thing. But erasing the warning words of an admin is not the same thing as rephrasing words of your own. Let Floquenbeam erase their own words when they're ready, or discuss it with them. This is especially true when the words themselves are literally {{tq|leave it alone for now}}. I say this in order to smooth out a dispute, but when someone reverts you like that, consider the basic advice in ] rather than how right you feel you are. Your edit was covered by none of the ].] 22:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I only reverted it 3 times. Instead of focusing so much on my conduct, why don't you really try to be helpful and read through my replies and consider others' misconduct, which is the center of the dispute? This is my Talk page, and I am asking you to stop posting here unless I give you permission. ] (]) 22:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::{{ec}}Your first attempt at restoring the material was , going attempts going up to , so it was only about , not 24. ''You were still within the 24 hour period when you started edit warring again.'' That you responded to Elaqueate's generous attempt to help you with further blame-shifting and refusal to get your mistakes leaves me with no faith in your capacity to be a mature editor. Want to prove me wrong? Cut the blame shifting, take responsibility for your mistakes, and become more cooperative in other articles. ] (]) 22:33, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: It was a different edit. Elaqueate has a tendency to lecture, as do you. Please stay off my Talk page. ] (]) 22:35, 4 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Unblocked per community discussion at . Please try to not let all the people who had their faith in you down. My personal advice is to back out of disputes when tempers get high even if you care a lot. Especially when you care a lot. That's what I myself do. Max Semenik (talk) 23:11, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've tweaked your block to allow editing this page - please confirm it's really you. I can post your request to WP:AN and start an unblock discussion, but a more verbose request explaining what was wrong before and how you're going to avoid it in the future would improve your chances (from your current request it's less clear ). Max Semenik (talk) 17:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it's me. Let me know if you need more verification. I added to my post. If you could go to AN with this, I'd appreciate it. Useitorloseit (talk) 22:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MaxSem: Not sure if you saw my expanded post above. Could you let me know whether my request will move forward or not? Thanks. Useitorloseit (talk) 18:33, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, lost track of this request. Here we go: WP:AN#Useitorloseit unblock request. Max Semenik (talk) 21:16, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Chillum:. I have no idea what the rules are for discussing your own Standard offer, so strike this if improper, but in answer to your questions: the sanctions were a 1RR rule, and as far as I know there was no discussion leading to my final block (former admin Secret deleted my block evasion sock post at RfA then Rjd0060 indef blocked me). Useitorloseit (talk) 23:15, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
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Dril
Please could I ask u why u removed the lead sentence in Jack Nicholson's article about Dril? It's notable since there is already a Misplaced Pages article about him, and relevant as it shows Nicholson's place in popular culture. There was a source from a book describing Dril's notability, I see no reason for its removal. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 16:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I didn't think the blurb was notable enough to belong in the lead section of the article. Perhaps in the body of the article in a "legacy" or "influence" section. Useitorloseit (talk) 18:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)