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all proposed

After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other Arbitrators, parties and others at /Workshop, arbitrators may place proposals which are ready for voting here.

Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or abstain.

  • Only items that receive a majority "support" vote will be passed.
  • Items that receive a majority "oppose" vote will be formally rejected.
  • Items that do not receive a majority "support" or "oppose" vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if they so choose. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.

Conditional votes for or against and abstentions should be explained by the Arbitrator before or after his/her time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that she/he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were passed.

As of the opening of this case, there are 13 active arbitrators and none are recused, so 7 votes are a majority.

For all items

Proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on. Non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page.

Motions and requests by the parties

Place those on /Workshop.

Proposed temporary injunctions

Four net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.

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Proposed final decision

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Outside conflicts

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Bite: Can you explain why it’s a bad idea for a PR firm to be editing Misplaced Pages on behalf of a client? How does the Misplaced Pages community react to such activity?

Wales: It is a bad idea because of the conflict-of-interest. It is perfectly fine to talk to the community, to show them more information, to give them things that show your client in the best light. But it is wrong to try to directly participate in the process when you have an agenda.

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Point of view editing

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Proposed findings of fact

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Ilena

1) Ilena (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is Ilena Rosenthal, a women's health activist, see User:Ilena and Ilena Rosenthal on Misplaced Pages. She was the appellant in Barrett v. Rosenthal, defendant at the trial court level. In addition to that article she also edits with respect to alternative medicine.

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Struggle by Ilena

1.1) Ilena has engaged in combative behavior which, besides being rude, betrays misunderstanding of Misplaced Pages policies .

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Disruption by Ilena

1.2) Ilena in her editing aggressively advances the partisan viewpoints expressed on her website and those associated with alternative medicine.

Stephen Barrett

2) Stephen Barrett is a retired physician and health activist. He is one of the founders of the National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF) and webmaster of twenty-two websites that describe what he considers to be "quackery and health fraud," most notably Quackwatch. While this dispute revolves about him and his involvements, his editing is believed to be limited to comments on talk pages, Sbinfo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log).

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Fyslee

3) Fyslee (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is Paul Lee, a health activist who participates in a number of internet sites critical of alternative medicine, see "user=fyslee" and (contains list of sites)

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Incivility and personal attacks by Fyslee

3.1) Fyslee has engaged in incivility and personal attacks .

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Use of unreliable sources by Fyslee

3.2) Fyslee has repeatedly used Quackwatch and similar partisan sites as references .

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Disruption by Fyslee

3.3) Fyslee in his editing aggressively advances the partisan viewpoints expressed on his own website and those associated with Quackwatch.

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Proposed remedies

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Ilena banned

1) Ilena is banned from Misplaced Pages for one year.

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Ilena banned from editing

2) Ilena is banned indefinitely from editing articles which relate to alternative medicine, Quackwatch and related articles, and litigation she was involved with. The ban includes talk pages with the exception of articles with relate to breast implants.

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Fyslee banned from editing

3) Fyslee is banned from editing Barrett v. Rosenthal, all articles which relate to Quackwatch and similar activities, and all articles which relate to alternative medicine. He may comment and make suggestions on talk pages.

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  1. Fred Bauder 18:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC) Should there be doubt, check this out. Fred Bauder 15:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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Enforcement by block

1) Violation of bans imposed by this decision may be enforced by blocks of appropriate length. All blocks to be logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Barrett_v._Rosenthal#Log_of_blocks_and_bans

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Discussion by Arbitrators

General

Misplaced Pages is not an appropriate vehicle for advocacy or propaganda. Fred Bauder 18:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Motion to close

Implementation notes

Clerks and Arbitrators should use this section to clarify their understanding of the final decision--at a minimum, a list of items that have passed. Additionally, a list of which remedies are conditional on others (for instance a ban that should only be implemented if a mentorship should fail), and so on. Arbitrators should not pass the motion until they are satisfied with the implementation notes.

Vote

Four net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.