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==Independent sources== ==Independent sources==
We cant rely on independent sources alone, these are subjective and reflects authors perspectives.] (]) 14:59, 26 July 2022 (UTC) We cant rely on independent sources alone, these are subjective and reflects authors perspectives.] (]) 14:59, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

== Content dispute ==

{{Moved discussion from|Talk:Ab207 |2=Moved content dispute to article talk page. ] (]) 14:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)}}
Hello Ab207, can you review the content added by the user Fostera12 on the article ]. Most of the content he added is not related to the article, although they are reliable. I have already replied to them on my talk page. His edits are completely chaning the perception of the article....] (]) 14:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

] Tell me what exactly is your perception, so that we can discuss and come to consensus.] (]) 14:16, 26 July 2022 (UTC). Hi Ab207, please intervene, and suggest the other editor to update the info which he/she disagrees. He is involved in disruptive editing. ] (]) 14:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
:The pan-indian film was originally started with the Telugu cinema, but the editor completely removed it. They have added the non-major figures and yet to be released films in the list. Also, according to the sources added ] was released only in Tamil, Malayalam and Hindi. It's wide success is not mentioned. The other films that are added in the background section might be sucessful at the box-office but how are they related to the article. I HAVE NOWHERE MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF A PARTICLUAR PERSON OR LANGUAGE as said by Fostera12 as a reason in one of their revisions. The entire paragraph (as edited by Fostera12) on the top is not similar to the previous one. "According to The Times of India, the first pan-Indian film from Kannada cinema is Dr. Rajkumar-starrer Mahishasura Mardini released in 1959. It was dubbed and released in seven other languages. But, no other film was released in more than four languages, since then."----this entire content was removed by them. There is much more to add, but ultimately most of the content is not related. I SOMEHOW AGREE THAT CONTENT RELATED TO DRISHYAM CAN BE ADDED BUT THE SOURCES SHOULD SUPPORT THAT. I might be wrong in few cases, but I am ready to work for better edits. I am thus concluding that I'M NOT BIAS. Further, I am ready to face any kind of consequences including blockage...Thank you......] (]) 14:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
::Jayanth, an amicable solution can be met. Please do not type in all caps it can be scary. ] (]) 19:10, 26 July 2022 (UTC) ] (]) 14:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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Addition of content

Add Darbar,Annaathe,Kurup,Dabangg 3 2409:4051:9F:F399:1586:5720:6D83:9855 (talk) 08:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

These were not pan India films , Vikram has been a pan India success 

Amarrrrty (talk) 09:37, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Useful articles

These two (https://www.sify.com/movies/pan-indian-telugu-movies-land-in-crisis-imagegallery-0-tollywood-vf5e8fgcedije.html and https://www.bollywoodlife.com/photos/before-pooja-hegde-and-rashmika-mandanna-sridevi-kajol-aishwarya-rai-vidya-balan-and-10-more-screen-goddesses-who-were-the-og-pan-india-actresses-view-pics-entertainment-news-1931677/1931766/) seem insightful. Though bollywoodlife is unusable, it points out the hypocrisy in the movement. I hope the content is available elsewhere. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

What can I do for you sir regarding this? Amarrrrty (talk) 09:38, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Try adding content from Sify. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:24, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Criteria for films considered to be pan-Indian

Since there is a constant back and forth changes in this list, I believe there should be some objective criteria for potential candidates. A couple of conditions were boldly added by an IP in this edit which I broadly agree with. Not every film dubbed (or planned to be dubbed) in various languages can be added in the list as the list would become endless and the overall significance of the entries would go down. Therefore to summarize:

  1. The film must have been released
  2. Some degree of success or attention on a pan-India level needs to be demonstrated in independent sources

Thanks and regards -- Ab207 (talk) 07:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Vijay is a pan indian actor

It is 100% true 1.38.195.69 (talk) 14:15, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. This article is about films, not actors. -- Ab207 (talk) 08:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Dubbed films

Films are being dubbed and released in multiple languages since 1960's what is the logic behind pan Indian film asa movement since 2015? If adjusted to inflation rates films previously released to baahubali had equally good box office revenue. The top grossing pan Indian films already have a article. Why do you need special article for this, and according to whom are these major figures ? Fostera12 (talk) 14:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Independent sources

We cant rely on independent sources alone, these are subjective and reflects authors perspectives.Fostera12 (talk) 14:59, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Content dispute

Moved from Talk:Ab207 – Moved content dispute to article talk page. Ab207 (talk) 14:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello Ab207, can you review the content added by the user Fostera12 on the article Pan-Indian film. Most of the content he added is not related to the article, although they are reliable. I have already replied to them on my talk page. His edits are completely chaning the perception of the article....Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Jayanthkumar123 Tell me what exactly is your perception, so that we can discuss and come to consensus.Fostera12 (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2022 (UTC). Hi Ab207, please intervene, and suggest the other editor to update the info which he/she disagrees. He is involved in disruptive editing. Fostera12 (talk) 14:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

The pan-indian film was originally started with the Telugu cinema, but the editor completely removed it. They have added the non-major figures and yet to be released films in the list. Also, according to the sources added My Dear Kuttichathan was released only in Tamil, Malayalam and Hindi. It's wide success is not mentioned. The other films that are added in the background section might be sucessful at the box-office but how are they related to the article. I HAVE NOWHERE MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF A PARTICLUAR PERSON OR LANGUAGE as said by Fostera12 as a reason in one of their revisions. The entire paragraph (as edited by Fostera12) on the top is not similar to the previous one. "According to The Times of India, the first pan-Indian film from Kannada cinema is Dr. Rajkumar-starrer Mahishasura Mardini released in 1959. It was dubbed and released in seven other languages. But, no other film was released in more than four languages, since then."----this entire content was removed by them. There is much more to add, but ultimately most of the content is not related. I SOMEHOW AGREE THAT CONTENT RELATED TO DRISHYAM CAN BE ADDED BUT THE SOURCES SHOULD SUPPORT THAT. I might be wrong in few cases, but I am ready to work for better edits. I am thus concluding that I'M NOT BIAS. Further, I am ready to face any kind of consequences including blockage...Thank you......Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Jayanth, an amicable solution can be met. Please do not type in all caps it can be scary. DareshMohan (talk) 19:10, 26 July 2022 (UTC) Ab207 (talk) 14:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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