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Could someone remove the template of the page? It appears at ] ]<sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 01:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
:It didn't seem to be in the category that you mentioned. Anyway I have now moved it to ]. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 09:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


== Confusing redirect ==
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Reading the ], it seems that "Al Gore III" is not the same person as "Albert Arnold "Al" Gore" Jr, 45th Vice President of the United States. Can someone with edit rights change the redirect to ] so that this redirect at least gives a hint to avoid that confusion?
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== Protected edit request on 19 September 2014 ==
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Is all this stuff about his drug busts really worthy of inclusion?] (]) 21:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:It is an accurate recitation of the events in the life of a person who has been determined to be notable. ] ] 23:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::It's a selective listing of some events in his life. There are plenty of other events that could be listed (what he had for lunch, who his girlfriend is...), but aren't because they are nothing to with his notability. Presumably you're arguing his legal problems are connected to his notability. Care to expand on that?] (]) 20:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Sure. Gore's legal issues have been reported in the nightly news, as evidenced by the citations in the article itself. Most people's aren't. On the other hand, I have seen no news reports regarding either his dietary habits or his love life. I imagine that if he were to get married, that would be reported (and would be added to the article). ] ] 21:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::For more information on how this subject has been hashed out at some great length see talk archives. One point of view is pretty accurately reflected in ] comment above. Another, not prevalent view (based on talk consensus), answers your question in the negative; that undue weight has been given these charges, an opinion which I held until the most recent marijuana/prius incident. After subject got stopped for going over 100mph in the Prius while smoking weed (a charge to which he pled guilty), I couldn't bring myself to argue on his behalf. IMHO, subject is now notable more for his brushes with the law than for his association with a celebrity father. Sad, but accurate. ] (]) 00:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If his notability stems from his legal problems and not from his father, then millions of ordinary people are just as notable. I don't see that keeping unnecessary detail out of a minor article equates to arguing on behalf of the subject of the aricle. It's more to do with keeping Misplaced Pages as an encyclopedia and not an omnipedia.] (]) 20:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::As I mentioned above, Gore's legal issues receive national news coverage. Millions of ordinary people do not get that sort of attention. ] ] 21:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Why does this article belong in Misplaced Pages? I'm not sure I see the relevance.
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:You want to mount an eighth AfD, go ahead. I think this article reflects badly on Misplaced Pages, but after agreeing with your position for a long time, I saw that consensus was against me, so I stopped squawking. I encourage you to examine talk archives to see how silly the conversation got. ] (]) 11:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


...please be replaced with the following text:
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"Because Gore's father was an ex-Vice President, Gore was exempted from having to serve any jail time for his many crimes. "


...so that the redirect is is put into the category via a tranclusion in an Rcat template rather than a category transclusion? Also, can the section target be changed to ] (the current section redirect doesn't exist), as well as adding an {{Tl|R to section}} category tag? Thanks! ] (]) 07:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
⚫ ] (]) 01:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:I assume you meant ]? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 08:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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{{editprotected}} Could someone remove the template of the page? It appears at Category:Misplaced Pages pages with incorrect protection templates Tbhotch 01:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

It didn't seem to be in the category that you mentioned. Anyway I have now moved it to Category:Protected redirects. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Confusing redirect

Reading the deletion discussion, it seems that "Al Gore III" is not the same person as "Albert Arnold "Al" Gore" Jr, 45th Vice President of the United States. Can someone with edit rights change the redirect to Al_Gore_III#Marriage_and_family so that this redirect at least gives a hint to avoid that confusion? Diego Moya (talk) 22:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why we have this redirect at all, but I've made the sensible change you suggested.   Will Beback  talk  23:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

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...so that the redirect is is put into the category via a tranclusion in an Rcat template rather than a category transclusion? Also, can the section target be changed to Al Gore#Marriage and family (the current section redirect doesn't exist), as well as adding an {{R to section}} category tag? Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 07:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I assume you meant Al Gore#Personal life? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)