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			==Notice of Arbitration Committee injunction==

			The ] has adopted a temporary injunction in the case of ], in which you have been named as a party. The injunction provides: ''Until the conclusion of this case, all parties are restricted to one content revert per article per day, and each content revert must be accompanied by a justification on the relevant talk page.'' Violators may be blocked for up to 24 hours. The case remains open for the submission of evidence or proposals. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. ] 00:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome!

Hello, Hajji Piruz, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I though you might like this and want to add it to your user page

This user supports the reunification of the Republic of Azarbaijan with the motherland Iran

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Why did you get involved?

All the reasons for what I'm doing are stated on the talk page. No one even bothers to notice them. All you guys are doing is blind reverting. And you have the nerve to give me revert warnings? C'mon guys, discuss the issues. This is all just ridiculous. FellFairy 09:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Azerbaijani, that paragraph you took out was actually sourced, it's from the Schofield book, page 35-37. The reference must have got lost somehow during the reverts. Could you put it back in? Right now, there's nothing left that presents the UAE position at all, which I think is unbalanced (because the Iranian position is rightly still there.) - Now you pushed me to the 3RR limit and reminded me of it, I can't put it back in myself I suppose ... FellFairy 11:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Huh? "Pan-Arab POV"? How pray am I a Pan-Arab? I'm Dutch by the way, LOL. No connections with Arab countries whatsoever. And what's "POV" about that paragraph, what's that even supposed to mean? Silly Misplaced Pages jargon. You mean it's non-neutral? Well, it is presenting the points of view of the two sides. Anything wrong with that? And I insist both sides must be presented in some way, if you have a better summary of what the UAE point of view is, feel free to put it in instead. But the way you had it, the UAE wasn't represented at all any more. Are you seriously claiming that would be a better version? FellFairy 12:03, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sure, if you're a Dutch and then I'm a Swede. Drop the act please, you ain't fooling anyone. --Azerbaijani 12:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Iranian Turks

That paragraph was ill-written and full of weasel words. In addition, you removed wikifications and other edits. On the other hand, you can review the paragraph and provide references from internationally recognized sources and continue. Regards E104421 22:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing in Turko-Persian Tradition. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.Must 17:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

For the Turko-Persian Tradition article, please do not remove the wikifications and the references, it takes 15 mins to add them. You're always welcome to contribute, but please respect the fellow editors. Feel free to edit the newest version, rather than reverting cause reverting also removes the minor edits. We can discuss the issue at the talk/discussion pages. I'm getting bored of this edit/revert business. Regards. E104421 13:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your reply. Wikifications are the links to other wiki-articles. For example, Iranian people is a wiki-link, in addition to these, there are also categories, see also, external and references links. If reverted, these are also removed. For this reason, feel free to contribute to the last version. Any problems, gimme a shout! Regards. E104421 19:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Fraudulent?

In the edit summaries of your edits and you wrote "fraudulent maps". Do you have any proof for this accusation? --Lambiam 02:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Mutlu Yıllar

Dear "Azerbaijani", I don't know how old you are, but I have only tried to make articles correct, not pan-whatever. I tried to change "Turkmen" which was written incorrectly about many Iranian Turks, Azerbaijanis, whatever. You think I have time for propaganda and stuff like that? But articles shall be without bias. If YOU feel that you are more like Persian that is your issue. Try to be fair! I am not Persian and that is a fact. I am an Azerbaijani. Doesn't matter, but that is a fact. I don't like to be called a Persian, but that is MY problem too. Let's have decent, unbiased and correct data so that we preserve the truth. Bm79 03:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Azerbaijan (Iran)

The sources are biased, and it needs to be made clear that they are not third-party soruces. Khoikhoi 04:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

If you want to present something as an undisputed fact, give me sources that are neither Iranian nor Azerbaijani. Then perhaps I can change my mind. :-) Khoikhoi 04:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not dismissing them, I'm just saying we have to respect WP:NPOV here. I agree, it is sad. Khoikhoi 05:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Elnurso

This isn't vandalism, but a content dispute. According to his comment at User talk:Elnurso, he wants to discuss the issue. Why don't you try coming to a compromise? Khoikhoi 04:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not vandalism if he provides an explanation. I don't feel like helping you if you're just going label it "vandalism"... Khoikhoi 04:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I recommend that you read Misplaced Pages:Resolving disputes. The probelm we have is that there aren't any recent comments at Talk:Ahmad Kasravi, and both of you haven't cited any neutral sources to back-up your claims. If suppose I could protect the articles, but would this cause you and Elnurso to discuss the issue more? Khoikhoi 10:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

These are all very valid points you are raising, and it would be so much better if you made them on the talk pages. That way, if another admin ever examines the situation, he will find one user (you) willing to discuss the matter, and another user who isn't. Why don't you try attributing the sources properly? For exaple, you can say, "according to Atabaki...etc. etc." You can also add quotes. There are many different possibilities of what you can do, but just reverting and reverting won't solve the problem. Khoikhoi 05:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Compromise on Azerbaijan

I've come up with a compromise on Azerbaijan to satisfy all the parties. Check it out and let me know what you think. --Mardavich 19:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Azerbaijan

Don't removed sourced material, such as you did for the Persian description of Atropates. The source I provided, from Livius, clearly describes him as a Persian nobleman.
Please just change the edits you felt I did in error. Your revert undid a few improvements and fixes I did, in addition to removing sourced material.
Again, don't remove sourced material, such as the description of one source as a statement of the Armenian UN representative. This is considered vandalism. The Behnam 23:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Consider not relying upon the Azerbaijani banknotes article as a source. This article does not appear to be a reliable source, as it does not have any scholarly citation or notability, and since there are already two sources for the same assertion, there isn't much reason use a dubious source. Also, when referencing it, don't quote-mine the article and misconstrue your selection as the title of the source. The Behnam 00:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Yemen

I didn't know you were interested in Yemen related articles. Perhaps I should show my appreciation by doing the same thing and start getting involved in Iran-related articles ;-) Jidan 19:52, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Please read the articles closely and do not do blind reverts :) I put a lot of effort into finding sources and writing that article's intro. The ones that you called sourced information are not so actually. The other refs in the intro are actual books on architecture with visible pages. The ones provided by anon are one of them from a web forum, the other one from a book description - I read very carefully every source provided and write them carefully. If you have any other concerns about the specifics of the article, you can leave me a note. Ottoman architecture was influenced primarily by Byzantine architecture, and Mimar Sinan, originally a Orthodox convert to Islam made a great synthesis of the Islamic Mamluk and Byzantine styles. Seljuk styles was never predominant after the 14th century. In any case, the influence of Persian styles can be extensively talked about in the article of Seljuk architecture. If you ever come to Istanbul, you would see what I mean :) Cheers! Baristarim 18:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Listen, did you even read what I just wrote above? Why are you insisting that Persian is placed in front of Byzantine? Do you have any idea what Ottoman architecture was? Have you ever seen Sinan's works? One of the source is from a forum, the other one is a book summary. This has nothing to do with NPOV, it has to do with academic correctness. Seljuk styles were influenced by Persian architecture, and Seljuk architecture was the basis for Ottoman architecture until 1453. What about 1453-1922? It was Byzantine and Mamluk influence (after the transfer of the Caliphate to Ottoman dynasty). Baristarim 19:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Have you checked the other refs? They clearly state that the Byzantine influence was the greatest, the whole pages from the books are visible directly. Other sources I cited are precise, those ones are a) one from a web forum, b) a book summary not written by an academic. Please see the other refs. You can talk to any admin you would like. I provided seven serious refs for that intro, there is no POV push. Please be civil and don't accuse anyone in that manner. I am simply trying to make the article more academic in good faith. Please see the difference between Persian influence on Seljuk architecture and the extent of Seljuk influence on Ottoman architecture. Have you seen Ottoman buildings at all? Please be reasonable. Baristarim 19:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

What "POV push"? I spent a lot of time looking for those refs and rewriting the intro. Please be civil. Baristarim 19:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Why? Other books clearly specify that the main influence was Byzantine with Islamic Mamluk influences that was built on Seljuk traditions after 1453, and those books are visible for all to see with their specific pages visible via Google Books. I am only reverting because one of them is from a forum the other a book description, and contradict the content of the six other references listed. That's all. Believe me, there is no POV pushing, WP:AGF. Baristarim 19:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It matter because for academic precision. If the main influence was Byzantine and to a lesser degree Islamic Mamluk, then that means there is no logic to putting something else before those two. Those are not book sources: one of them is from a post in a forum, the other one a book summary - the other sources listed are the words of actual academics who have written on the specific subject, and there are six of them. Playing with the order is the real POV pushing since it goes against established academic concensus. That's all. Please show me one major Ottoman artefact that wasn't primarily influenced by Byzantine or Mamluk elements, see Blue Mosque and Dolmabahce Palace and Ciragan Palace, the masterpieces of Ottomans, for example. Keep in mind that this is not the article about the Seljuk architecture, it is about Ottoman architecture. They had different styles. Baristarim 20:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Please be careful about not breaking the three-revert rule. Thanks Baristarim 17:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at the sources listed for the intro, I spent a lot of time in good faith to write the intro with a precise timeline. It is very academic and is backed up by the words of academics who have written specifically about this subject, and they are visible for everyone to see. There is no logic to the revert that you are making, the Persian influence on Seljuk architecture is already talked about in the intro, with the following timeline over the centuries following the fall of Constantinople. I really do not understand why that very academic and specific intro has to be reverted. Baristarim 17:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Elsanaturk

I can't I'm not an admin. I comment on 3RR reports to hopefully offer clarity to situations. Sorry if there has been any confusion. My suggestion is that you fill out a report on WP:AN3, since the last I looked he had violated 3RR, sock or no sock. --Wildnox (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

When I'm next on(I have to go for a bit) I'll comment on it if I think it needs any additional support. --Wildnox (talk) 20:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

You've just made your 4 revert in 24 hours and 28 minutes at Mammed Amin Rasulzade, which is inappropriate, particularly after my warning to you. I've blocked you for 24 hours, just like Elsanaturk. Please use dispute resolution in the future, not edit warring. Dmcdevit·t 17:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

How did I make 4 reverts? I was asleep and just woke up, also, your warning was not on my talk page and I'm not watching the administrators noticeboard, so I dont see how you can claim to have given me a warning when I never saw it. Also, Again, like I said, I just woke up, if check the pages history, you can see that I was not edit warring for over 24 hours. I did not make one single edit. Also, I did not revert anything, I added sources to one sentence and I removed another sentence based on a very good reason. Please rethink your decisions. I hope to hear a reply from you soon. Thanks.Azerbaijani 17:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

, , , . Also, accusations of vandalism are uncivil. Dmcdevit·t 17:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I just woke up, but also, you can tell by my last edits that I had no intention of edit warring. I added two sources, and removed a sentence and gave a very good reason for it. If I could get unblocked, I could go back to trying to defuse the situation, like I tried by adding sources and giving more explanations, like I was planning on doing. Also, if you notice, Elsanaturk is also using these IP addresses to edit: 217.64.23.189 and 217.64.28.214. At least thats what it looks like to me, I could be wrong.Azerbaijani 18:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Ottoman architecture

The second source is an internet fourm, and cannot be considered reliable. The first source however is ok—it would be better if you looked for some actual books on Google Books. I've found some myself already. Khoikhoi 22:14, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Azerbaijan

Hi. Please take part in the discussion on the talk page of Azerbaijan article, which has recently been protected. We are discussing the reliability of the sources included in the article. If we reach a consensus, we can have the article unprotected. Regards, Grandmaster 06:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Two Articles in need of your attention

There are two entries at Misplaced Pages, which have falsely created -- they are Turco-Persian and Turko-Persian Tradition. Both entries are factitious. I have requested the entries to be deleted. My reasons are:

The term Turko-Persian Tradition (or Turco-Persian) does not exists academically and it is a factitious entry! Check the Encyclopaedia Iranica to confirm -- The correct name for that culture is the Persianate culture not the "Turko-Persian". Turkophones (mostly of mixed race and Persianized in culture) only spoke in Turkic dialects and were in the military. That is not enough participation in creating and forming the culture to deserve the name "Turko-Persian Tradition" – This is misinformation. All the elements in that area, which have to do with tradition and culture, were drawn from the Iranian culture (Persian, Kurdish, Azari, Baluchi, Tajik, Luri, Gilaki, Talishi, Mazandarani, etc.), and the Islamic faith, not much Turkic elements (like shamanism, yurts etc.) were incorporated in. That is what makes the name "Turko-Persian" an imaginary one and therefore the entry should be deleted.

Any contributions would greatly appreciated. Bā Sepās Surena 02:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Persianate Template

It's not a good idea at all, Ethnicity-related templates are prone to pov accusations and unnecessary headache. --Mardavich 20:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding shatt al arab

I find it ironic that you use aravand exclusively in describing the pictures, Arabs live on both sides of the river and they always called it shatt al arab MB

Azerbaijani, the Arabs have been present in Ahwaz, Linga, Abadan, and almost all of southern Iran since the Islamic conquests, and even much before that. This makes their presence in Iran date at least a millenia. This makes them as indigenous as Azeris, Kurds, Baluchs, Lurs, and even Persians. Here's a PDF file, http://www.ahwaz.org.uk/images/identity.pdf the lecturer asserts that the name changing of Arab cities to Persian names was a deliberate move to end all Arab presence from Iran by the Pahlavi regime. MB

Actually majority of people living in Khuzestan are Lurs/Bakhtiars although there is a large. The majority of Arabs in Khuzestan came during the Safavid/Qajar era. The links from the site you provided is not reliable. As per name change, many cities had their name changed during the Arab conquest of Iran. As per the link you provided it has many historical errors since it is not written by historian. For example the name Khuzestan predates Aghlim-e-Ahvaz used by that author, since it is name used from Parthian times. --alidoostzadeh 19:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure, doost, anything you don't agree with, is simply not reliable. You keep pushing your POV and preach us about verifiability not truth, yet you come here and tell us it's not reliable? This speech was given in an Iranian university, you think nobody would speak up if it was unreliable? Check your facts, Aravand was only called that during the Pahlavi regime and the Arabs, although still a majority, lost great numbers in forced emigration (they were forced to run away into the western coasts of the Arabian Gulf) due to the Pahlavi regime's crimes against humanity committed by them. Not to mention the incessant terrorism from the Pahalavi regime in it's forced Persianization campaign, especially towards the Arabs. MB

Actually it is the other way around, since you can not bring any sources. Again you need to prove that the name aghlim-e-ahvaz was used before the parthian era! But you can't so your forced to write stuff that has no content in terms of evidence. Anyone can come and give a speech to a group of students. The fact is the name Khuzestan was not called Aghlim-e-Ahvaz before Khuzestan! Pre-Islamic sources (Parthian) have it Khuzestan(See Elam by D.Potts and the Ka'aba Zardosht inscription). Thus that guy does not know his history. Arvand rood is mentioned in the shahnameh (1000 years ago). As per reliability, you forget to mention that Arabian Gulf is a fake name madeup 50 years ago and there is not a single Arabic sources that has it. Thus it shows you fake history! as this is major mistake. Arvand rood is in the Shahnameh. As per terrorism, you forget arab slavery of blacks in sudan, saddams expelling of Iranians, his killings of shi'as and Kurds which are termed genocide, the treatment of shi'ites in Saudi Arabia, Yemen and etc. And there hasn't been any persianization campaign in Khuzestan, just many migrant Persian/Azeri workers in the oil industry. And there is a lot of native Persians way before that time where dialects exist: behbehan, shushtar, masjed soleymani.. etc plus the majority Luri/Bakhtiaris and even some Qashqai nomads. Note the guy you mentioned does not even have a doctorate. Once you find a single reliable source saying Khuzestan was called Aghlim-e-ahvaz before Khuzestan, then you can be taken credible. Talk does not substitute for evidence. Where is the evidence that Khuzestan was called Aghlim-e-Ahvaz before Khuzestan? Also your knowledge is lacking since we have at least 400,000 Arab refugees from Iraq in Khuzestan during Saddam era. I am sure if Iran was so bad, they would have migrated to Saudia Arabia! --alidoostzadeh 22:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Turkic languages

Hi, I think you haven't noticed the explanation in the edit summaries. Please see Baristarim's comment here. They also speak Turkic languages there. Regards. E104421 14:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I will try to check into very soon. However, I am still waiting for an actual debate in Ottoman architecture - I spent a lot of time and tried to address all the concerns in the intro, and left many messages to the involved users + the article's talk page, but nobody said anything and blind reverts led to the article's protection... I would like to know how those sources implied that Persian influence was greater than Byzantine influence.. There was nothing in the sources or the the other five books that suggested anything close to Persian architecture being the most influential on Ottoman architecture. Anyways.. Cheers! Baristarim 00:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I said that I will look into what I can do - I cannot whip up maps with a magic wand :)) You are right in the sense that it is a delicate question because there is a confusion between "first language" and "spoken language".. Anyways, I will try to get back to you soon, no worries.. Baristarim 01:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR at M.E. Rasulzade

3rr

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

Since you are a fan of this notice, and have been breaking this rule on this very same page earlier this month, here it is as a reminder. --AdilBaguirov 00:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:

No problem it'll probably get reverted again anyway heh. Nareklm 05:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Rasulzade

Hey Azerbaijani,

I'm sorry, but I don't think I can get involved in another dispute right now. I think at this point I think you should try making a request for mediation, or something simiar. You could also try the same thing for the Azerbaijan page, as it appears that that dispute has been going on for awhile. Khoikhoi 04:21, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hello

Unfortunately, I don't have CheckUser privileges (only a handful of admins do). Try asking one of those users. Khoikhoi 03:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you want me to say to him? You used an incorrect code. Letter "A" should only be used for "to identify and block the IP addresses responsible for blatant vandalism and attack accounts". POV content disputes are not vandalism. And they aren't "attack accounts" either. An attack account is something like Khoiisjiba (talk · contribs). I didn't block Atabek because he is a new user and probably doesn't know the rules on sockpuppetry. Khoikhoi 04:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Can't you tell him yourself? :-) Khoikhoi 04:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't just say "he used the wrong letter". I have to tell him what the correct code is. Only you can tell me that. Khoikhoi 04:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think they're all very obvious. As for the second one, "vandalism" isn't the correct word here. Khoikhoi 04:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

How about "E"? (3RR violation using socks). You also have to link to four diffs showing the 3RR violation. And Azerbaijani, I'm not going to look at this whole thing as if you're the only victim here. You are not without fault, and I think you know that. If you were trying to be reasonable to everyone, the Azerbaijan article would be unprotected by now. Khoikhoi 04:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

See

By the way very identical no? and Nareklm 04:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll find a spot to squeeze these things in. Nareklm 04:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Message

Evan Siegel & Brenda Shaffer need urgent attention. Please contribute if you have extra material. Kiumars

Azerbaijani, please do not remove items without discussing first; I see this as vandalism. Kiumars

Re: What did I remove?Azerbaijani 20:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Her religion!Kiumars Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kiumars"

Sorry, my mistake, it was Ali who did it not you. By the way did you manage to find more stuff on her? Kiumars

Komak!

Hi Azarbaijani!

Would you please take a look at my works on Abbas Kiarostami. Any idea, help or comment to improve the article? Take care. Sangak 21:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Are you also active in persian wikipedia? if so, please consider making an article for آدزبایجانی‌ها by the way, activate your email address. یاساشین ایران --Pejman47 23:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring

You have been engaging in edit warring at Equality Party (Azerbaijan) recently. Please stop unproductive and confrontational warring and restrict disagreements to talk page discussion. If you have problems, use the dispute resolution process. You have been blocked for edit warring before, and should not need another warning. Please take a look at Help:Reverting#Dont.27s. Dmcdevit·t 05:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hello

Ok, but it doesn't really matter if these users haven't edited in weeks or months, because sockpuppetry in itself is not a violation of policy. Which active users do you suspect to be sockpuppets? Khoikhoi 19:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Accusing of sock puppet

I have seen that you often use accusations to promote your views. I looked at your talk page becasue I wanted to know why you disappeared from the Azerbaijan article's talk page, and I saw that instead of engaging in discussion (which you had often engaged in confrontational and accusatory fashion) you had reported that many users are actually one or two. Take me for an example! I am a new user. You know why I made an account? Becasue I saw such absurd and poor texts in the article about Azerbaijan. The same thing MAY happen with other people. When important articles are pushed to the edge of absurdity people get offended and get involved. I don't know about other users having suck puppets or something like that, but maybe you yourself think about your attitude toward other users and take their actions on good faith, and act on good faith yourself. Your username is "Azerbaijani" and I noticed that you are simply doing the opposite of a true Azerbaijani would do about his/her people. And unfortuantely you are doing these things without having neutral and reliable sources. Plese respect our homeland, Azerbaijan, and do not offend us! I am from Iran, but I am an Azerbaijani and so are those in the Republic of Azerbaijan. It is absurd to come up with various conspiracy theories and claim unfounded things simply becasue you want so. I hope you understand my point. THank you! Roazir 23:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Writing one's POV on the talk-page is not the same as to pushing for POV in an article. What exactly is POV that I have edited? What is POV that I have written? There are sock puppets on all sides of any article I guess, but not everyone is a sock puppet. I am no-one's sock puppet for instance. Roazir 09:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

selam from turkey

why do you change the turkic states page. arent you turkic person? what is your problem with turkic people... i am appointted for Iranıan Turks. how is that you are turk? Claim your history.--Offical 18:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Consensus

Dear Azerbaijani, give your opinion on Iran article's consensus: Talk:Iran#Consensus

Thanks, - Marmoulak 03:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Template

Pffffffffffffffff ... certain users have some bias toward the Template:History of Iran and have started to remove it from various articles, including Seljuq dynasty, Timurid dynasty, etc. *sigh* The old problem again ... Tājik 03:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Aha. There are two questions that are different from each other: content and style. The template is way too long - such long templates have been removed from other articles as well. The template has become an article onto itself. Keep the template but either make it shorter or format it horizontally like most of the navigation boxes. Please do not make this personal of some sorts. Baristarim 04:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Abşeron

I'll paste what I just told Narek:

The "This is English Misplaced Pages" argument doesn't really apply when it comes to diacritics. They are not two different words, just different spellings. If we wanted to use the "English spelling" for articles, shouldn't we move Abülfaz Elçibay to Abulfaz Elcibay? (the Azeri spelling is Əbülfəz Elçibəy)

Also, there is a proposed guideline, Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics), although it's been "proposed" for nearly a year now, which means that there is no consensus for it. Khoikhoi 07:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Persian Language

Good job taking out some those edits by Babakexorramdin removing Persian language from various provinces. West Azerbaijan and Kermanshah province are still left. I am currently looking for sources for each province, though it seems silly that we should have to source information that is obvious simply because Persian is described as the main language in the country. He tried this at Mazandaran Province too, but I managed to find a source to remove it. If you find a source for any of this obvious information please add it, or link it to me so I can add it. For now, I am going to revert his edits at West Azerbaijan and Kermanshah. The Behnam 05:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Whether you like it or not Persian is not a native langaueg, nor spoken on daily level by a substantial parts of the residents in these provinces? Just a question. Why werent you so disturbed when they had removed all non-Persian languages from the Iranian provinces pages? Why this selectivity? To be more clear: I am not a member of all these ethnic groups of Iran. I am an Iranian. But it is very wrong that some editors here (I do not say whom) think that Iran belongs to persian and the rests are minorities! Babakexorramdin 16:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Azerbaijani contact me at my yahoo. messenger or email. the same ID. I have something important to tell you. thanx Babakexorramdin 22:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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Persepolis not Perspolis

It is Persepolis and not Perspolis. I do not care what the LA TVs say. Popular knowledge is not enough. You should be correct if you want that people take you seriously. Babakexorramdin 23:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Urgent

Looks like it already has been protected, but what socks are you talking about? Are you aware that Atabek and Elsanaturk live in different countries? Khoikhoi 12:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for 24 hours for the edit warring on Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. Please do not edit war again; when you see a conflict brewing, take it to the talk page. It's really the best option; edit warring will just get you into plenty of pointless trouble. —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 05:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I was simply reverting the removal of heavily sourced information. User Elsanaturk continuously uses personal attacks, and continuously starts needless edit wars. This user is an obvious nationalist. No matter how many sources I bring him, he keeps claiming they are "biased" without showing any evidence, and continuously removes the information. I have brought 10+ sources yet he keeps removing them. I was reverting obvious vandalism.Azerbaijani 15:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Hey adil was blocked again, so i don't think they will accept your request he is blocked right now. Artaxiad 23:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

They might not, since Adil has been blocked, by the way this is Narek. Artaxiad 23:39, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Revert parole

I'm hereby informing you that both you and Elsanaturk have been placed on a strict "1RR parole" on the following two articles you have been edit warring on recently:

Until further notice, neither of you may make more than one revert on those two articles in 24 hours (and that includes reverting not only each other but other editors as well) or you may be blocked by administrators for edit warring. The above list maybe expanded if either of you decide to carry your disputes to other related articles. Khoikhoi 11:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration

Hi. I added you to list of parties to an arbitration case initiated by Dmcdevit. Please make a statement at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Armenia-Azerbaijan concerning the conflict with the other parties listed. Thanks. Grandmaster 17:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

If you are not involved in the dispute that will be taken into consideration. Fred Bauder 19:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 18:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Azeris

I reverted because you made your edits based off Behnam & Kiumars' version, which was done largely without consensus. Firstly, there are way too many quotes, which makes the article look unencyclopedic. Also, what genetics? The section says "Further studies with Azeris in Iran may help determine", it doesn't say there have been no studies in Iran. Khoikhoi 04:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we could add that to the Iranian theory section, if you could give me the URL. Khoikhoi 04:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration Committee injunction

The Arbitration Committee has adopted a temporary injunction in the case of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan, in which you have been named as a party. The injunction provides: Until the conclusion of this case, all parties are restricted to one content revert per article per day, and each content revert must be accompanied by a justification on the relevant talk page. Violators may be blocked for up to 24 hours. The case remains open for the submission of evidence or proposals. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad 00:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)