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| :::"This week I had a major setback when I was blocked from ITN due to a simple misunderstanding. I was distraught. I won't bore you with the details, but it was all over one word. My appeal was rejected." | :::"This week I had a major setback when I was blocked from ITN due to a simple misunderstanding. I was distraught. I won't bore you with the details, but it was all over one word. My appeal was rejected." | ||
| ::I don't know what more I could have said to persuade you, and others, that my contrition is sincere and that I have learned my lesson. I would ''never'' attempt humor at ITN again. NEVER! Nor would I EVER post anything that might be misconstrued as 'racist.'<br>This seems to me an impossible state of affairs, sort of a Catch-22. I feel trapped and helpless. Please ''listen'' to me. I am a caring and responsible person with many years of professional experience in writing and editing. ITN was the one area of Misplaced Pages where I felt I could make a significant contribution – not only to Wiki, but also to the reading public. It was an important part of my life (in retirement). Help! – ] (]) 13:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC) | ::I don't know what more I could have said to persuade you, and others, that my contrition is sincere and that I have learned my lesson. I would ''never'' attempt humor at ITN again. NEVER! Nor would I EVER post anything that might be misconstrued as 'racist.'<br>This seems to me an impossible state of affairs, sort of a Catch-22. I feel trapped and helpless. Please ''listen'' to me. I am a caring and responsible person with many years of professional experience in writing and editing. ITN was the one area of Misplaced Pages where I felt I could make a significant contribution – not only to Wiki, but also to the reading public. It was an important part of my life (in retirement). Help! – ] (]) 13:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC) | ||
| :::Here's how I explained the situation to my sister: | |||
| :::::It was all over one word -- during an internal discussion about a 'blurb' (short statement about an event) to be posted in Wiki's "In the News" (ITN) box. | |||
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| :::::There had been a protracted argument among various Wikipedians about what verb to use in saying that Xi Jinping had been granted a third term as China's leader. Normally one would say he was "elected," but since the party congress at which this occurred was planned long in advance, and since Xi is basically dictator of China, there were some (including me) who felt "elected" wasn't appropriate. | |||
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| :::::I jokingly suggested we say "erected" instead of "elected." That spawned a dispute with a Wiki administrator in which I was accused of making a "racist" comment, which of course was the furthest thing from my mind. A complex disciplinary process ensued, I was blocked from ITN, and my appeals were summarily rejected. | |||
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| ::::My sister's reply: | |||
| :::::Didn’t sound racist, maybe poor choice of word. But humorous in a way. | |||
| :::Oh yes, a ''very'' poor choice of word! And one I very much regret -- ] (]) 15:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, Beeblebrox. You deleted this page in 2016 as a Neelix redirect. Would you mind if I restore it? I was going to create it myself with the same target (Uab Meto language, our only article about something called "AOZ") before I even noticed the deleted history. -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 09:30, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Any user in good standing is perfectly free to recreate any of those redirects. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:31, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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Conversation involving you on my Wikisource user page
@Beeblebrox and Kudpung: please see my user talk page at Wikisource:
There's an ongoing discussion related to an old user block you were both involved in. I had nothing to do with the block, but mentioned it on an AFD discussion, and the blocked user is now looking for answers. — Maile (talk) 00:06, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- I have answered this on Wikisource because that was the first ping I saw. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:06, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Unblocking
I agree that it is disappointing that you seem unable or unwilling to address the actual reasons for the block, but it is already under discussion at ANI and your talk page, so we don't need a third discussion here. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I wish to appeal my block, but can't figure out from the guidance where one files an appeal. – Sca (talk) 16:49, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Where can I see the decision in this case? -- Sca (talk) 16:54, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- In the ANI thread you have already been participating in. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:12, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Beeblebrox: On my talk, I wrote and attempted to post (file) an appeal, but somehow it doesn't look right. Could you please take a look at it and see if I made some formatting mistake? Thanks. – Sca (talk) 20:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Done --- Very disappointing. – Sca (talk) 13:41, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Reply
On 10/26, you said:
- I know Misplaced Pages is different things to different people, but you are only blocked from one single page, a page you have been blocked from before, for essentially the same reason: using it as a forum for your attempts at humor. This unblock request gives me no confidence that the intended message has been received. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:25, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, it's been received all right – like a haymaker punch to the solar plexus. Here's what I said (by email) to another old Wikipedian:
- "This week I had a major setback when I was blocked from ITN due to a simple misunderstanding. I was distraught. I won't bore you with the details, but it was all over one word. My appeal was rejected."
- I don't know what more I could have said to persuade you, and others, that my contrition is sincere and that I have learned my lesson. I would never attempt humor at ITN again. NEVER! Nor would I EVER post anything that might be misconstrued as 'racist.'
This seems to me an impossible state of affairs, sort of a Catch-22. I feel trapped and helpless. Please listen to me. I am a caring and responsible person with many years of professional experience in writing and editing. ITN was the one area of Misplaced Pages where I felt I could make a significant contribution – not only to Wiki, but also to the reading public. It was an important part of my life (in retirement). Help! – Sca (talk) 13:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC)- Here's how I explained the situation to my sister:
- It was all over one word -- during an internal discussion about a 'blurb' (short statement about an event) to be posted in Wiki's "In the News" (ITN) box.
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- There had been a protracted argument among various Wikipedians about what verb to use in saying that Xi Jinping had been granted a third term as China's leader. Normally one would say he was "elected," but since the party congress at which this occurred was planned long in advance, and since Xi is basically dictator of China, there were some (including me) who felt "elected" wasn't appropriate.
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- I jokingly suggested we say "erected" instead of "elected." That spawned a dispute with a Wiki administrator in which I was accused of making a "racist" comment, which of course was the furthest thing from my mind. A complex disciplinary process ensued, I was blocked from ITN, and my appeals were summarily rejected.
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- My sister's reply:
- Didn’t sound racist, maybe poor choice of word. But humorous in a way.
- My sister's reply:
- Oh yes, a very poor choice of word! And one I very much regret -- Sca (talk) 15:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Here's how I explained the situation to my sister:
- Oh, it's been received all right – like a haymaker punch to the solar plexus. Here's what I said (by email) to another old Wikipedian: