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I read this page (I haven't been on Misplaced Pages for a long time) and really someone has to react. The introduction of the article is completely advertising and is not accompanied by serious sources. The first 3 sources are: a 30 year old report that doesn't say what it is made to say, a Spanish advertising article from a university and a pseudo-interview from a little known internet media. I wish to open a debate here to make this page more neutral and encyclopedic because: 1. it is wrong to reduce Assas to only its law faculty, it is much more than that (political science, management, economics) (obviously the people who want to leave these passages are from the law faculty of Assas...) 2. it is wrong to say that it would be the only heir of the old university of Paris (on the contrary! It is the universities with "Sorbonne" in the name that are. Assas does not even have a branch at the Sorbonne). 3. Assas is absolutely not considered as the "best" or the most "prestigious" French university or law school. I invite everyone to come and give their opinion here in a constructive way. ] (]) 14:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC) | I read this page (I haven't been on Misplaced Pages for a long time) and really someone has to react. The introduction of the article is completely advertising and is not accompanied by serious sources. The first 3 sources are: a 30 year old report that doesn't say what it is made to say, a Spanish advertising article from a university and a pseudo-interview from a little known internet media. I wish to open a debate here to make this page more neutral and encyclopedic because: 1. it is wrong to reduce Assas to only its law faculty, it is much more than that (political science, management, economics) (obviously the people who want to leave these passages are from the law faculty of Assas...) 2. it is wrong to say that it would be the only heir of the old university of Paris (on the contrary! It is the universities with "Sorbonne" in the name that are. Assas does not even have a branch at the Sorbonne). 3. Assas is absolutely not considered as the "best" or the most "prestigious" French university or law school. I invite everyone to come and give their opinion here in a constructive way. ] (]) 14:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC) | ||
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Grammar and syntax errors have been corrected. This page is well researched & proof read, please do not revert to previous outdated version... Some American practitioners here in the US have personally complained to me about this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 22:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Dates of alumni
Please provide the dates of study if available. --Ransouk (talk) 15:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
You can see the dates on some of their own profiles. Otherwise it is common not to have the dates, check other pages, like Harvard's or Yale's... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 22:29, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
University and faculty
This university is like a faculty in itself. The global ranking is not really relevant here. Any other opinion? --Ransouk (talk) 16:30, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps you should read the new updated version — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 22:15, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Introduction
@Naxh:: the first sentence should be simple. Please don’t change the page until you get consensus here, otherwise an admin will have to intervene. Thanks. --Ransouk (talk) 03:15, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I do not mind having an admin intervene! There were a lot of english mistakes that I corrected in this article. Sentences were poorly translated from French. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 22:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
You added statements in the lede that do not correspond to sources. --Ransouk (talk) 13:50, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
That's not true. Which ones are you talking about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 18:16, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- For example,the remaining professors did not go at all to Paris 1 only, as it is said in the sentence you added, they went to many other universities. To me, the first sentence is too complicated. Also, you should find more sources to say it is usually considered as the most prestigious. --Ransouk (talk) 18:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Only a very few Professors of the Law Faculty of Paris joined Dauphine and other universities after the split of 1970. The vast majority of those who did not join Panthéon-Assas went on to integrate Paris 1 which is totally historically accurate and verifiable. I do not know what are your sources but I actually have many. Please do check both Panthéon-Assas and Panthéon-Sorbonne's websites for further information. The first sentence totally makes sense, I see no grammatical mistakes. Paris II is a statutory name (derived from the statute that established the university) what is it that you don't understand exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 00:14, 22 February 2022 (UTC) Regarding the ranking and prestige of Panthéon-Assas, I urge you to check for your own benefit, among many other rankings, this one https://thotismedia.com/classement-droit-2021/ and read the methodology they followed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 00:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC) Why censor facts when you disagree with them? this is an online encyclopedia.
- The website of the own universities are not accurate sources. There is no source given, and, in any case, I don’t see, what it has to do with this page. --Ransouk (talk) 13:30, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I provided other sources too. You can check them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.95.145 (talk) 18:48, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Mate, stop undoing my updates, I am not letting go either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naxh (talk • contribs) 01:56, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
It's simply false to state that all remaining professors went to Paris 1, I provided a source: René David went to Aix. You wrote yourself "The vast majority of those who did not join Panthéon-Assas went on to integrate Paris 1", without a source, but at least it says that not all, which is what your sentence means. --Ransouk (talk) 02:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Now you are saying that not all but the majority. Please provide a source for such a claim. Thanks. --Ransouk (talk) 20:12, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's what I have been saying since the beginning... Read my previous comments in the talk section... I am fine with the latest sentence. I have provided many sources! Naxh (talk) 01:15, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Someone has to react
I read this page (I haven't been on Misplaced Pages for a long time) and really someone has to react. The introduction of the article is completely advertising and is not accompanied by serious sources. The first 3 sources are: a 30 year old report that doesn't say what it is made to say, a Spanish advertising article from a university and a pseudo-interview from a little known internet media. I wish to open a debate here to make this page more neutral and encyclopedic because: 1. it is wrong to reduce Assas to only its law faculty, it is much more than that (political science, management, economics) (obviously the people who want to leave these passages are from the law faculty of Assas...) 2. it is wrong to say that it would be the only heir of the old university of Paris (on the contrary! It is the universities with "Sorbonne" in the name that are. Assas does not even have a branch at the Sorbonne). 3. Assas is absolutely not considered as the "best" or the most "prestigious" French university or law school. I invite everyone to come and give their opinion here in a constructive way. Aigurland (talk) 14:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @@Ransouk: you deleted (all!) my changes of the day without bothering to react here. I was waiting for your opinion as it doesn't seem to bother you that the introduction of this page is written in any way with false sources. Aigurland (talk) 17:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)