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Some others are sorry to see you go, but I'm not. Misplaced Pages is about '''acquiring and giving knowledge to/from others''' - no conspiracies, no socializing, no propaganda or cabalism. People will come and go - knowledge is the only thing to gain from spending time here. ] 00:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Some others are sorry to see you go, but I'm not. Misplaced Pages is about '''acquiring and giving knowledge to/from others''' - no conspiracies, no socializing, no propaganda or cabalism. People will come and go - knowledge is the only thing to gain from spending time here. ] 00:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


:I'm not sure which dream world you live in, but its pointless to talk with you, as it always was. Believe what you please and do what you please. Demean me and Misplaced Pages on your private web forum - I don't care. I'm only here for knowledge, nothing else. P.S. - the controversy about Muhammad and pedophilia is a legitimate historical debate - criticizing Muhammad is free speech. But Baka's comments were meant as an insult to you, no doubt - I would have blocked him if I had seen that comment but I had not until much later. I don't know why the arbitrators didn't propose a decision against him - that's their business. Don't reply to refute this statement, as I already know that you don't respect me at all. Cheerio, ] 01:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Urgent

Hello. Thanks for your message, and for pointing out your previous post to me. While I cannot answer for why other Arbitrators have not replied to you, please rest assured that we're by no means ignoring you, and I do intend to respond to your post on the talk page in a moment. However, as to your question regarding the block: unfortunately, I don't think this is possible. While it is now technically possible to disengage the autoblock (which blocks anyone attempting to edit using the IP address of a blocked user), I don't see this as a feasible solution, and would encourage anyone else using this shared IP address to contribute from elsewhere. Thanks for your understanding. Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

At the risk of sounding like I'm condoning block and ban evasion, I do want to point out that your IP address will never be explicitly blocked; indeed, we'll never know your IP address unless either a CheckUser is performed or it is revealed elsewhere on the site. It will only be your account that is technically blocked, and the autoblock will only automagically block the immediate IP address you have used in the past and any further accounts or IP addresses attempted by the account. While you are not free to edit while banned, others are still free to do so. However, note that any attempts at ban evasion will be met with strictly, and CheckUsers can be done if any such suspicion arises. I'm confident, though, that you'll respect our decision and return after one year. Thanks for your understanding again. Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid you misunderstood me: I believe the autoblock will automatically block the previous IP address used by the blocked user and any IP addresses used in attempts to edit by that account. Because you indicated you were using a "temporary" IP address, I assumed that the shared IP address you were concerned about had not been used recently, meaning it would not trigger the autoblock. However, note that I'm not a technical expert on how the blocking system works and my impression could be totally incorrect; also note again that I'm not encourging ban or block evasion in any way - if the case closes as it is, you would be banned from editing for a year. Thanks again. Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

your "last" request

I'm not really sure what I can do about the IP autoblock, especially as Flcelloguy has responded. I'm disappointed (but not surprised) to see how little respect you have for the arbitrators and for Misplaced Pages: (1) The decision is not yet final, (2) Everyone had a lot of time to say everything they wanted and present all kinds of evidence and (3) The arbitrators are absolutely impartial - my word is no better or worse than yours. The most ridiculous accusation made by you, Nadirali and Szhaider was, upon the foolish advice of Fowler, you sought to suggest how the ArbCom case was begun just minutes after the ANI complaint - did you honestly think that complaining to ArbCom gave me any advantage? Did you honestly consider ANI to be superior to ArbCom? If anything, going to ArbCom gave you guys a greater opportunity - people regularly bitch about admin misconduct on ANI, to no particular effect. ArbCom has a greater role to fully examine all kinds of complex cases and arrive at informed decisions that can be enforced. But you have absolutely no respect for ArbCom, the rules and purpose of Misplaced Pages. Nor do you, Fowler, Nadir or Szhaider have the slightest respect for me. WP:AGF is nothing but a tool for you to use while complaining about others.

On the contrary, I always respected your productive capacity and intelligence. When you asked me an honest question about Lothal, I responded in good faith. I would love to be respectful towards you following this, your "last" message, but I really can't. The last time I messaged you, I made an overture to you - I did my best to explain myself and give you an example of how I myself overcame similar challenges. But like several other overtures, you did not even acknowledge it. From the moment I blocked Nadirali and Szhaider, you offered me not an iota of respect or consideration. Now you want to play the victim.

The only thing I have to say to you is to be a man, accept the criticism and reflect upon your own behavior. Its only too easy to accuse Misplaced Pages, the arbitrators and me of bias, racism and injustice and play the victim. If you honestly think you don't deserve to be treated like a vandal or a troll, then stop acting like one - every banned user loves to rant the same, tired old lines. Don't play the victim - you are better than that.

Some others are sorry to see you go, but I'm not. Misplaced Pages is about acquiring and giving knowledge to/from others - no conspiracies, no socializing, no propaganda or cabalism. People will come and go - knowledge is the only thing to gain from spending time here. Rama's arrow 00:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


I'm not sure which dream world you live in, but its pointless to talk with you, as it always was. Believe what you please and do what you please. Demean me and Misplaced Pages on your private web forum - I don't care. I'm only here for knowledge, nothing else. P.S. - the controversy about Muhammad and pedophilia is a legitimate historical debate - criticizing Muhammad is free speech. But Baka's comments were meant as an insult to you, no doubt - I would have blocked him if I had seen that comment but I had not until much later. I don't know why the arbitrators didn't propose a decision against him - that's their business. Don't reply to refute this statement, as I already know that you don't respect me at all. Cheerio, Rama's arrow 01:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)