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== Notable Players == | |||
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A list was recently added that contained the names of Notable Runescape Players, but it was deleted(the list included Zezima, Xanatos Xev, Andyawz and Leki91) And i think they should re-add it.] 19:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Wayyyy to ]. This isn't a ]. There were no ], and they aren't ]. Really, the only notable player ''might'' be Zezima. ''Maybe'', because he's a household name amongst 10 million-ish players. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">]</font></sup> 19:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: Much too crufty. I've played RS for almost 3 years and only heard of Zezima. And including him wouldn't add much to the article. ] 19:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:As i've been explaining at ], players, even Zezima, are ] enough for a mention here. I've never heard of the other three either. ] <sup>] ] ]</sup> 19:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Macroers banned
the macros banned list since the begining on rs (before it was renamed rsc) has reached a total of 78,000 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.44.106.218 (talk) 02:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
68.44.106.218 02:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC) joshua090909
sorry forgot my password to my wiki account and im getting it back in a minute.
they found some more microers in RSC? there isnt that many people playing that version anymore so 78000 seems like a lot of ppl dont you think? can you source your claim? Maverick423 15:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- There used to be a lot of macroers in RSC, but they disallowed new members from joining that version to prevent them from getting in. DiscordantNote 15:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
German translation now into beta testing
Just noticed this now:
http://www.runescape.com/lang/de/aff/runescape/title.ws
We should start updating the article now to accommodate the new version of RS. I'm trying it out now, but I sadly only know one word in German :( AScott00 21:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Just so you folks know, when they get around to making a Spanish translation, I'm ready. My grammar is not too good, but I can get a draft of a potential article to the point where someone who knows more than me can clean it up. DiscordantNote 23:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Are you talking about transferring information over to the Spanish Misplaced Pages? If so, I would be able to help out. I speak a little bit of Spanish, but I can try my best to help in translation.--Ed 01:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Same here once the spanish version is ready i can help out im very fluent on spanish since i live right next to the mexican boarder =)as far as understanding the language =( germain is hard but if you have the time and effort use the http://translation2.paralink.com/site to translate the words Maverick423 17:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Acctually guys with that website i just gave you all we can all write our article in german. all we have to do is type it in english and then use the site to make it german. but the thing only allows 500 characters at a time. Wie Sie deutlich sehen können, dass diese Seite (http://translation2.paralink.com/) uns sehr helfen kann (just translated that right now =)) Maverick423 17:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I suppose that could be done (refering to the online translation, but the problems with them would occur, however i suppose a german speaker would be able to understand enough to be able to change the relevent sections. Evildoctorbluetooth 19:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Using an online translator too much wouldn't be smart, they don't have the accuracy of a human speaker. Few free online translators are able to recognize grammar & sentence structure. They may do simple sentences such as "My hair is brown," however with longer, complex sentences that we would see in an article, they would be inadequate. We can use them, sure, but we shouldn't just input a bunch of paragraphs and take what they put out; if we have a native (or experienced) speaker of the language look over them afterwards it should be fine though. I updated the link on de:RuneScape yesterday to point directly to the German site now, however I don't speak German and couldn't do much else. AScott00 19:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
yep i know what you mean the punctuation problems are common as some languages dont use some of them but if we can get close enough to create a sort of guideline we can open the door for more experianced writers to continue on from there. well either way we have to see how we can help out. links like the one you posted is a great step. maybe small sentences can help out too though.
speaking of which is there a runescape project over in the german version? Maverick423 20:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
This may be off-topic, but how was teh page vandalized while it was protected? do we have a dirty admin on our hands? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.41.200.203 (talk • contribs).
The vandels name will pop up on the history tab if it was my friend check there for your awnsersMaverick423 21:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- The page isn't fully protected, only semi-protected, so logged in editors with accounts older than 4 days can edit. CaptainVindaloo 22:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Coming back to other languages... When french becomes available, I can help... a little. I'm in French 2, but Frenchmen have complimented me on mon Français... → p00rleno (lvl 83) ←ROCKSRS 12:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- wtf you guys translating for. just say theres a german version available. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bakeeshbaba (talk • contribs) 01:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
- Chances are they're going to stick with German and English for now, we don't need to get worked up about translating the game if other versions come out - if they do, they won't be coming for a long while yet. AScott00 02:33, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I haven't really been watching RuneScape news in a while, so I think its time that we reevaluate the article again. Does the article currently represent RuneScape like it is today? Have we missed any updates? Who are the RS players here?--Ed 02:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- There have been no major changes, other than this beta testing thing. -Amarkov moo! 02:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, there are some numbers available, the update post says that 139 f2p and 140 p2p were invited to participate in the beta. We can include that when it comes time to add the German version's own section. → p00rleno (lvl 83) ←ROCKSRS 12:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Quick question
Moved to my talk page thanks for the awnser Pyro Maverick423 22:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
German Language Servers?
Is it known for sure whether the German language servers are actually in Germany? In the English news update, they're called "German servers/worlds", but it doesn't specify whether with this it means German language and location, or just German language. Also, on the German world select page, it gives a title of Sprache (language), rather than something such as Platz (place/location) or similar, which would correspond better with the English language version. And, maybe unrelated, World 84 (a UK 2 server) was recently taken offline, and looking through the list, there are also gaps at 38-41, and 45, 46, any two of which could have become 139 and 140.
The only place I would otherwise expect a definitive confirmation would be the German news update, but as my German language skills don't extend as far as being able to read that, I wouldn't know. Thanks. --81.129.213.167 22:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
- I agree. There is no indication that the servers are actually in Germany, so any statement that they are in Germany is unverifiable. I'll switch back the server map/locations until we have more information. CaptainVindaloo 15:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
archived
I moved everything without new messages for a week to /Archive18.--Exarion 21:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good - • The Giant Puffin • 10:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- There's a much better way to do it. Move the page to the new archive and then bring back the things you want. I'll try to do it now. J.J.Sagnella 11:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok done. J.J.Sagnella 11:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, it was getting ridiculously long. Pyrospirit 00:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok done. J.J.Sagnella 11:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- There's a much better way to do it. Move the page to the new archive and then bring back the things you want. I'll try to do it now. J.J.Sagnella 11:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
We have a problem. I moved the 18 talk page archives for naming consistancy to ], but I just found a problem. /Archive 17 and /archive17 are completely separate archives! We need to figure out what happened and fix it. I'll work on it right now, too. Pyrospirit 14:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Simple as a wrong number. Move the incorrect 17 to 18. J.J.Sagnella 16:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- I figured out that /Archive 18 is a duplicate archive. /Archive 17 should be moved to /Archive 18 and /archive17 should be moved to /Archive 17 after the redirect is deleted. I've put it on WP:RM so that an admin can delete /Archive 18, move /Archive 17 to /Archive 18, and delete the redirect at /Archive 17 so I can move /archive17 to /Archive 17. Confused? Same here, but I think I've got it figured out. Pyrospirit 18:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Everything's good now. Just have to finish checking for double redirects and I'll be done. Pyrospirit 22:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- There are no double redirects on any of the archives and we have the proper template on all of them. Looks like this is all done now. Pyrospirit 22:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- I figured out that /Archive 18 is a duplicate archive. /Archive 17 should be moved to /Archive 18 and /archive17 should be moved to /Archive 17 after the redirect is deleted. I've put it on WP:RM so that an admin can delete /Archive 18, move /Archive 17 to /Archive 18, and delete the redirect at /Archive 17 so I can move /archive17 to /Archive 17. Confused? Same here, but I think I've got it figured out. Pyrospirit 18:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Posted
Posted a question here http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:RuneScape_combat#Melee_section your feed back is much appreciated =) and sorry for not making it sound professional =( Maverick423 18:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Page about NPC races
- I think we should have a page on the fictional races, such as the giant spiders, goblins, ghosts, hobgoblins etc. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
- It'd be deleted within a day. It'd be pointless to have a page on that.--24.109.218.172 21:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, completely useless, even for people who play RuneScape - • The Giant Puffin • 22:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- The races are right there in the knowledge base, and we link to that. Remember, we are NOT a game guide. -gamerfreak
The article is currently up for prod. I may change to afd though so if it reappeared it can speedied. J.J.Sagnella 10:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- I placed a note on the article's talk page explaining why it should be deleted as well. I'd say no need for an AfD for this one. Pyrospirit 20:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Runescape Forum Link -- Why?
Why do we have a link to the official Runescape forums? It should be removed for two reasons:
- 1) That section is already swamped with links.
- 2) As said many times, the encyclopedia is directed towards non-players, correct? The forums are easily accessible from the homepage to any new visitor, AND its not going to do them any more good than the knowledge base considering its a Members-Only feature of the site.
- You got a good point there. Perhaps we may need to reconsider this. J.J.Sagnella 10:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think it should stay. After all, the link is a bit difficult to see. Also, it tells a lot about the RuneScape community. Pyrospirit 20:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Refs before punctuation
Aren't we supposed to put references before punctuation? IE:
this is the text of the article<ref>reference on wheels</ref>.
as opposed to:
this is the text of the article.<ref>reference on wheels</ref>
Currently, just about all the citations in the article have reference after punctuation. CaptainVindaloo 19:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- I thought it was after, but I could be mistaken - • The Giant Puffin • 12:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- WP:REF#Footnotes_come_after_punctuation :) Ed 04:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- K. I could have sworn it was refs before punctuation. Ah well. >_< CaptainVindaloo 18:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hm, never knew that. I'll try to fix any instances of that when I see them. Pyrospirit 19:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- K. I could have sworn it was refs before punctuation. Ah well. >_< CaptainVindaloo 18:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- WP:REF#Footnotes_come_after_punctuation :) Ed 04:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Criticism of RuneScape
I am creating a "Criticism of RuneScape" article at my sandbox. Please feel free to edit it as it develops; I am in desperate need of some good sources. And please, don't add a bunch of pro-RuneScape junk to the article until the main points of criticism have been established, it makes it much easier to write. Thanks, --Hojimachong 02:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Um... why would we want a seperate article? "Criticism of" articles should be avoided like the plague, unless absolutely necessary to reduce page size. We don't really have a problem with page size. -Amarkov moo! 03:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think it merits an article as much as Criticism of World of Warcraft does, as RS has even more active players, and a notorious reputation for being a less-than-perfect "starting point" for MMORPG players. --Hojimachong 04:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- But WoW is a lot larger, and thus has a lot more criticism. Creating a seperate article woul just lead to another AfD and perhaps another wave of scrutiny towards the RS series. Just extend the current section. If it ever becomes too big, then maybe look into making it a seperate article - • The Giant Puffin • 12:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- WoW has 8 million players, while RS has 9 million players (according to the article). It doesn't merit an article (yet, mwahaha), but I'll be building an updated criticism section in my sandbox. thanks for the input by the way, --Hojimachong 04:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- But WoW is a lot larger, and thus has a lot more criticism. Creating a seperate article woul just lead to another AfD and perhaps another wave of scrutiny towards the RS series. Just extend the current section. If it ever becomes too big, then maybe look into making it a seperate article - • The Giant Puffin • 12:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think it merits an article as much as Criticism of World of Warcraft does, as RS has even more active players, and a notorious reputation for being a less-than-perfect "starting point" for MMORPG players. --Hojimachong 04:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
RS copyleft images
There is/used to be a link on the JaGEx website for a set of images released into the public domain. I'm not sure if its still there but... it would be a nice touch... → p00rleno (lvl 84) ←ROCKSRS 12:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's still there, I downloaded it but none of the images really look useful--JCGracik 19:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Runescape Market
The Runescape market is a very complex market. It is like a modern market with prices rising and falling depending on quantity and sometimes quality. Also, there are jobs and other things that can teach you about a middle man and many other marketing details. this is an EXTREMELY brief description of this gigantic online gaming community's market. --Purplethief1 21:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's a good point...the market fluctuates several times in a certain period of time, depending on the location of the trading (such as which world you're in and which city/kingdom/area you're located in), availability of the item (rune armor as opposed to bronze armor), inflation, competition, etc. The problem with that is that if there are no reliable sources, this becomes original research.--Ed 02:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, if you can avoid the "mob" (scammers, noobs, etc.) which seems to be bigger than the actual market. Make sure it's neutral. --Hojimachong 02:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
sometimes the prices go up or down depending on what's in it. They sometimes try and cheat you for more money. You can sometimes make better agreements. This will also save your money.--Brail4 17:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Servers
Around 140 RuneScape servers, numbered and referred to as worlds by players, are located throughout the world. The servers are Unix, Debian GNU/Linux, and Cisco IOS
- Cisco IOS? for real? I can't find any supporting evidence for that...
- I did the research for that, I even provided the reference...apparently some editor who was moving some stuff around forgot to move the reference I provided for that as well. We might have to remove that information now, unless we can recover it through history.--Ed 02:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
RuneScape logo
IMO, I think that I would prefer Image:RSlogo3.jpg over Image:Rslogo2007.jpg. Why? Because the former looks more attractive then the latter, and the former's licensing might give more leeway than a fair use rationale. Any thoughts?--Ed 03:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Seconded. I'd rather we use the free-ish image from the fansite kit than this new one under fairuse. CaptainVindaloo 15:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, a free one would be better to use. I wouldn't choose Image:RSlogo3.jpg however, because of the white background. I think that RSlogo1 from the free image kit is better because it has a black background that looks more like the current runescape logo--JCGracik 20:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, i'm going to switch back to RSlogo3, since there's no objections. CaptainVindaloo 18:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Random Event Error
Under the random event section it states "Also, the mysterious box given to players by the Mysterious Old Man has been taken out of the game." This is completely false. What they may have meant was it was updated to accommodate color blind players by requesting numbers and shapes rather than colors and shapes.
- Are you sure?--Ed 05:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. Notice how the header says "Colored strange boxes". -Amarkov moo! 05:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Also, it mentions the numbered ones further up. -Amarkov moo! 05:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh...I see what you mean. That statement should already be removed.
On a related note, I would like to comment on the following paragraph:
Two random events have been removed from the game by Jagex. The tangle vine was removed almost immediately after being introduced as it was deemed too dangerous to players, but was reintroduced as part of the construction skill for POH's. The Dr. Ford event was removed for causing graphical problems within the game program.
Is this particular paragraph significant in this article? This is a general topic about RS; we don't want too much detail on the main article. Can we move it to a subpage?--Ed 15:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Critisim section seems to be missing a few views
Just seems to be missing something... 205.155.216.42 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- We've spent hours looking for reliable critical review (and no, GameFAQs et al is not reliable). There's not much we can do if most of them are positive or negative, although we've tried to balance out the numbers of positive and negative comments. Can you find any more? CaptainVindaloo 18:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
wat do you mean bye vandilismn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.144.158 (talk • contribs) 02:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what you're refering to, but here's a link to the page explaining Vandalism. Pyrospirit 04:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Trolling
Section removed. --Exarion 22:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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