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:::I hope you actually dont believe what you are suggesting, but it is obvious that Al Qaeda central command is involved in Syria. Central command is one thing, organisation is another. Al-Qaeda's syrian branches are part of Al-Qaeda and what is your rationale for seperating it from "Al-Qaeda"?? Provide sources for your assertion. Furthermore, core leaders in the central command were active partcipants in Al Nusra. . | :::I hope you actually dont believe what you are suggesting, but it is obvious that Al Qaeda central command is involved in Syria. Central command is one thing, organisation is another. Al-Qaeda's syrian branches are part of Al-Qaeda and what is your rationale for seperating it from "Al-Qaeda"?? Provide sources for your assertion. Furthermore, core leaders in the central command were active partcipants in Al Nusra. . | ||
:::Also, Tahrir al Sham is not an affiliate of Al-Qaeda. It was formed as a merger between Jabhat Fath al Sham and 3 other Islamist militias in 2017. It bans Al-Qaeda activities in its area of control. ] (]) 13:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC) | :::Also, Tahrir al Sham is not an affiliate of Al-Qaeda. It was formed as a merger between Jabhat Fath al Sham and 3 other Islamist militias in 2017. It bans Al-Qaeda activities in its area of control. ] (]) 13:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::You are adding ] material. Al Qaeda leaders did not declare the towns in Syria they occupied to be under the flag of Al Qaeda central command, instead they |
::::You are adding ] material. Al Qaeda leaders did not declare the towns in Syria they occupied to be under the flag of Al Qaeda central command, instead they declared Al Nusra. Even if you believe they did it doesn't matter as you cannot add your opinions to Misplaced Pages, you need to cite sources which explicitly state the argument. ] (]) 14:16, 13 December 2022 (UTC) |
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The whole article needs a rewrite, it for example lists allied forces as bellingerents. And it's locked so that nobody can actually do anything to deal with its problems.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.207.102 (talk) 07:02, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- I suppose that just as consensus can change, so can allies change. Feel free to use {{Edit semi-protected}} here to suggest specific edits. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:13, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed, needs to be re-written. Starting with the title that reads "CIVIL" war. When foreign forces unlawfully invade and annihilate your country, it is not a civil war. It is a hostile and aggressive attack we call today terror. Calling it a "civil" war is a misleading political statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.29.185 (talk) 09:22, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- It's quite common for foreign forces to intervene in a civil war. That doesn't (necessarily) change the internal aspect of the war. — kwami (talk) 08:19, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- I would support the notion that this was not a civil war but a proxy war. Mercenaries, foreign or national, fighting a proxy war for foreign powers, paid, armed and guided by those foreign powers, among which the CIA, do not qualify as a local uprising and part of a civil war. Mregelsberger (talk) 17:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Israel in the infobox
Israel is confirmed to be involved and sources are these: some of these say non-military, while others confirm Israeli military involvement in Syria to support some 12 rebel groups. Israel should be added as a supporter of the rebels or a separate column.Mausebru the Peruvian (talk, contibs) 18:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- And another one. Israel should be in the infobox ASAP. (Im not adding just not to anger everyone)Mausebru the Peruvian (talk, contibs) 20:49, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I completely agree. If Egypt is in there with little support given, so should Israel (which to my knowledge still has connections with Syrian insurgents in Daraa area). 2601:85:C101:C9D0:2C01:9B35:1C0F:1180 (talk) 20:56, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I support adding Israel to the infobox, although i dont know where it should be added, as the sources, at least on my view, dont say what rebel group they are supporting. SnoopyBird (talk) 01:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- I completely agree. If Egypt is in there with little support given, so should Israel (which to my knowledge still has connections with Syrian insurgents in Daraa area). 2601:85:C101:C9D0:2C01:9B35:1C0F:1180 (talk) 20:56, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Many of those 'sources' are biased bloggers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:A040:1A0:F4FD:A106:28BD:FD70:2995 (talk) 16:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Haaretz, Times of Israel and Reuters arent "biased bloggers".... SnoopyBird (talk) 01:34, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Outdated map
I think the map needs to be updated to reflect the recent changes in control of certain territories in Syria by HTS. As of the 13/10/2022, they currently control the city of Afrin . Fnaf guy123 (talk) 22:14, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
They captured Afrin and the surrounding countryside, apparently also 26 other villages. Reports are also are saying that they are heading to Azaz. Gehirnstein (talk) 07:44, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Guardians of Religion Organization
I have removed this group from main belligerents at the infobox, its inclusion doesn't appear to have been discussed and there are no sources reporting it as a main belligerent to the conflict alongside SAA, FSA, ISIS and SDF. Ecrusized (talk) 12:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Ecrusized, I have modified the infobox with Al-Qaeda in Syria and its defunct branches. Although Hurras al-Din isnt powerful as its former iterations, it is appropriate to include it seperately under Al-Qaeda; which was a key actor in the conflict Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 16:58, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Shadowwarrior8: Your changes are inappropriate as they do not cite any sources. Al Qaeda central command was never involved in Syria, you have added Al Qaeda to the infobox without citation. Al Nusra front which is the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda changed its name Jabhat Fatah al-Sham in 2016, and then to Tahrir al Sham in 2017. This information is already included by notes at the bottom of the infobox. Hurras Ad Din is a minor organization and it is not the direct descendent of Al Nusra. Ecrusized (talk) 09:40, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Ecrusized
- I hope you actually dont believe what you are suggesting, but it is obvious that Al Qaeda central command is involved in Syria. Central command is one thing, organisation is another. Al-Qaeda's syrian branches are part of Al-Qaeda and what is your rationale for seperating it from "Al-Qaeda"?? Provide sources for your assertion. Furthermore, core leaders in the central command were active partcipants in Al Nusra. .
- Also, Tahrir al Sham is not an affiliate of Al-Qaeda. It was formed as a merger between Jabhat Fath al Sham and 3 other Islamist militias in 2017. It bans Al-Qaeda activities in its area of control. 2 Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 13:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- You are adding WP:SYNTH material. Al Qaeda leaders did not declare the towns in Syria they occupied to be under the flag of Al Qaeda central command, instead they declared Al Nusra. Even if you believe they did it doesn't matter as you cannot add your opinions to Misplaced Pages, you need to cite sources which explicitly state the argument. Ecrusized (talk) 14:16, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Shadowwarrior8: Your changes are inappropriate as they do not cite any sources. Al Qaeda central command was never involved in Syria, you have added Al Qaeda to the infobox without citation. Al Nusra front which is the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda changed its name Jabhat Fatah al-Sham in 2016, and then to Tahrir al Sham in 2017. This information is already included by notes at the bottom of the infobox. Hurras Ad Din is a minor organization and it is not the direct descendent of Al Nusra. Ecrusized (talk) 09:40, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
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