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Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg

Hey, thanks for uploading this image. But I believe we can foster Misplaced Pages goal to promote free content even more if we produce a free alternative for this image. Do you know about someone with enough drawing skills to produce an equivalent diagram based on the information on this one (and the info on the article and it's sources)?

And according to our policy, we avoid any replaceable unfree material. But, of course, thanks again for the initiative to help. Keep on the good work. --Abu Badali 15:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


Shock Sites

I saw your comment about the Shock Site page and its needing to be expanded but no one is able to. Every bit of information that is added is repeatedly deleted by the same administrator over and over again. He originally voted to have the entire page deleted. Shock Sites like Meatspin need your help. Please sign this Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Mangojuice Ciper 16:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Privacy

Please see this edit summary of mine. What you did was out of lines and what /b/ does shouldn't affect this. The pictures were not meant for public viewing. Also read WP:BLP. Yanksox 01:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Abigail and Brittany Hensel

I added a comment replying to your question. -Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 13:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

hensel pic

The issue isn't who the picture is OF, but who owns it. If Ansel Adams takes a picture of Tom Cruies's car at the mall and you steal it and put it on wikipedia, it's Ansel Adams who has a right to get pissed off; Tom Cruise doesn't have anything to say about it. In this case, the Hensels owned the photo in question, so that was why they got to make the decision, not because it was a picture OF them.

see my comment on the hensel article talk page about the Life mag pic Faye Kane 03:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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re Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg

I have deleted this image because:

  1. Although Life magazine no longer exists, the Time-Warner corporation certainly does, and holds the copyright.
  2. This is, in my opinion, too much information for a fair use image. Fair use text may be quoted in small amounts to help illustrate, but may not be copied in in paragraph-size blocks to help create the substance of the article. In the same way, this image doesn't just illustrate, but forms a significant part of the substance to the article. This is why the magazine cover illustration may be fair use, but this image is not, in my opinion.
  3. It would be very difficult to replace this with a free image, but not utterly impossible.

Sorry. If you think this image was deleted in error (which is certainly possible), you may take the issue to WP:DRV. Thank you for your work on the Misplaced Pages, cheers, Herostratus 05:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks

Hi. Please remember to avoid attacking the character of other contributors. This, for instance, is completely unacceptable. Jkelly 03:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

re Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg

I've restored the image, and listed it at Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion/2007 January 31#:Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg. This page is seriously undermanned and I doubt that much useful discussion will be generated. If no resolution is reacherd here, I will feel duty-bound to delete the image as copyright violation, sorry. I do recognize your good intentions in trying to make the article the best it can be.

Basically, we don't use copyrighted material. Yes, an exception is made for for fair use images, but even that is made reluctantly and defined as narrowly as possible, and the Foundation would like to - and may, in the future - get away altogether from fair-use images.

And this is not a publicity photo that is given away for free to publicize someone (and even those generally are not allowed). This is a drawing that cost Time-Warner a lot of money I'm sure, and that they would most likely be unhappy to see passed around on the internet.

All this is because a bedrock principle of the Misplaced Pages is that any part of it may be re-used by any person for any reason at any time. This is considered by the Foundation to be more important then that the Misplaced Pages be of the highest possible quality. I recognize that deleting this image would detract from the article and therefore from the encyclopedia, but this is the policy of the Foundation, for good or ill. I myself find this maddening at times but you can't fight city hall.

As you say "It is quite impossible , absent drawing one yourself". Well, we do have artists around. You can make a request at Misplaced Pages:Requested pictures, although of I do recognize that realistically this probably won't work. But I\if no volunteer artist can be found, and if a detailed anatomical drawing of the twins is deemed essential enough to the 'pedia, then the Foundation should commission one, and absent that we shouldn't steal Time-Warner's work.

Again, thanking you for your contributions, and sorry we have to butt heads over this... Herostratus

Talk:Abigail and Brittany Hensel

I have completely removed this section from this page; talk page guidelines require that all discussion remain focused on the article and not on the contributors thereto. Further, we must ask that you read and understand civility guidelines and avoid making personal attacks against other editors.

Finally, we point you to Misplaced Pages policy on the fair use of images and other media and where and how to use them. Many Misplaced Pages editors are working diligently—and, usually, correctly—to remove media that could potentially expose the project to legal action.

Thank you for understanding, and we hope you will take the time to read policies and guidelines, put in place to make us all better editors. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

violation of WP policy

you deleted my pic and, following WP policy to the letter, I had another admin undelete it and place it in the delete consideration list so others could comment on it first.

You then bypassed that process and deleted it directly from the consideration list mere hours after it had been placed there, not giving others a chance to comment.

please put it back per WP policy; that is what the image delete consideration list exists for.

What you did is the equivalent of being a judge who found someone guilty, then bursting into the courtroom during the appeals hearing shouting "guilty! guilty!" and ordering the guards to drag the accused back to his cell and that the hearing be stopped.

the proper thing to do would be to leave your MESSAGE about why you think the image should be deleted, not unilaterally disrupt and destroy the deletion review process.

please respond on my user talk. note that "I think the image should be deleted" is insufficient response, as it ignores the issue under discussion. The issue under discussion is that the delete consideration list is the WP procedure for appealing a deletion, and you have disrupted that procedure.
Sys Hax 17:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Please, understand I'm not (and had never been) and Admin, and have no power to delete (or undelete) any image. Btw, thanks for writing a whole message void of personal attacks.--Abu badali 19:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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You have been blocked for 24 hours for incivility. Please take a break.   / talk  18:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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"Bowdlerizing Luddites", external links, and leaving Misplaced Pages

You wrote: I used to be excited about WP, but not any more; I have all but quit editing. You say WP is not a democracy. Right. It is a dictatorship of the few, and something I choose not to participate in anymore. Only when people aim their attention at providing informational content for wikipedia instead of erasing and destroying it because it gives them a rush, will wikipedia be truly generally useful. As it is now, WP is being destroyed from within.

Faye, I understand your frustration with the process and rules that govern Misplaced Pages. However, you have to take into account the fact that Misplaced Pages isn't just a little website published by some guy in his basement. It's high-profile, and is getting more so every day. We must take all necessary steps to make sure it is in line with copyright law, and those who work on that are generally seen as helping Misplaced Pages. It may appear that those, like the Abu you mentioned, are on some sort of power trip, but I can all but assure you that they are not (well, some people are, and that's truly a shame, but most really are trying to help the enyclopedia). "Fair use" has its basis in law, and those images that really do not qualify as fair use need to be removed, or else the existence of the project is put in jeopardy. What we really need, in order to make Misplaced Pages better, is a group of qualified individuals willing to create necessary illustrations (as well as individuals ready to take professional-quality photographs of hard-to-capture subjects like celebrities). That's a major limitation we have, being non-profit, that we can't pay people to do what a paper encyclopedia would. That doesn't mean we can just "steal" the work of others to make up for it, though. Aside from media we're granted the right to include, we have to follow fair use very carefully.
Now for the video external link; I've argued for its exclusion, although I haven't removed it again. It does appear to have some use, as there are some clips from it, although I don't see that it is terribly useful. I'm actually not all that fond of external links in general, as they direct readers elsewhere, when the purpose of an encyclopedia article is to try to sum up the available knowledge in one place.
That said, I ask you not to stop editing Misplaced Pages. You obviously have a desire to see it bettered, and I'm sure you can help in doing that. The attrition rate is pretty high these days, with people getting fed up with working within the constraints of policy, but you can still do a lot within those boundaries.   / talk  14:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Misplaced Pages:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 21:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Abu badali 21:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)