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Trolling
1) Problems with Misplaced Pages should be addressed by discussion, rather than piecemeal attempts to entrap and discredit other editors.
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- This is a suggestion based on the observation that the coincidence involved here is rather outrageous: chap suddenly shows up and, in his very first edits, anonymously edit wars with administrator, who overreacts,then the troll and his mates play merry hell until they gets an arbitration case. Whilst the outcome might possibly be advantageous to Misplaced Pages, such behavior (and the evidence for this is mounting) cannot ever be condoned. --Tony Sidaway 22:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd add that it's rather suspicious that Worldtraveller supposedly doesn't edit Misplaced Pages for months, then shows up and starts edit warring--and with an administrator, on a topic for which the administrator in question is known to have an interest. I don't say that the administrator in question is without sin, but there's a much, much more serious question here: what on earth is the Scoobie Gang up to? --Tony Sidaway 23:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- The Scoobie Gang is my informal name for the collection of close associates of Worldtraveller who, purporting to believe the blocked editor to be someone they didn't know, suddenly showed up and started making a very, very loud noise over Inshaneee's behavior . I'd enumerate them as follows: User:Bunchofgrapes, User:Geogre and User:Bishonen. I would welcome a clarification from those editors: did they really not realise their their associate Worldtraveller was trolling Inshaneee? --Tony Sidaway 23:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd add that it's rather suspicious that Worldtraveller supposedly doesn't edit Misplaced Pages for months, then shows up and starts edit warring--and with an administrator, on a topic for which the administrator in question is known to have an interest. I don't say that the administrator in question is without sin, but there's a much, much more serious question here: what on earth is the Scoobie Gang up to? --Tony Sidaway 23:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- This is a suggestion based on the observation that the coincidence involved here is rather outrageous: chap suddenly shows up and, in his very first edits, anonymously edit wars with administrator, who overreacts,then the troll and his mates play merry hell until they gets an arbitration case. Whilst the outcome might possibly be advantageous to Misplaced Pages, such behavior (and the evidence for this is mounting) cannot ever be condoned. --Tony Sidaway 22:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Again I add that Inshaneee's behavior as an administrator may be a serious issue for Misplaced Pages. Vigilanteism, however, would obviously be a far, far more serious problem. I think there is strong evidence to support the suspicion of vigilanteism here.--Tony Sidaway 23:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, Worldtraveller states correctly that I suspected him of deliberately provoking Inshaneee. I accept his explanation and withdraw the accusation that he deliberatel provoked Inshaneee. This could have been a normal clash of personalities. I will remove items from the workshop based on my erroneous assumptions. --Tony Sidaway 02:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Tony Sidaway seems to be suggesting that I decided to remove the 'paranormal' tag from Talk:Red rain in Kerala purely to annoy User:InShaneee. I'm completely astonished by this. Is Tony Sidaway aware that I originally started Red rain in Kerala , and contributed a lot of the content? Can he offer an idea as to why he thinks I'd behave like that? Is there anything in my contributions over the last two and a half years that gives him cause to do so? 81.179.115.188 01:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Um ... the "Scoobie Gang"?? Newyorkbrad 23:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Proposed. Adapted from Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan. Newyorkbrad 03:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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Worldtraveller has edited from several IP addresses
1) Worldtraveller (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has also edited from 81.178.208.69 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 81.179.115.188 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), and 81.179.150.16 (talk · contribs · WHOIS).
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- Proposed. Just a 'housekeeping' issue since many of the discussions and evidence diff-links involve these IPs. Worldtraveller has acknowledged these so there should be no privacy concern. If I missed any please add them. --CBD 00:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
(Withdrawn)
2) In late December, 2006. after several months away from Misplaced Pages, User:Worldtraveller who had little previous expressed interest in the paranormal came in his first edits to Talk:Red_rain_in_Kerala and chose to edit war anonymously with an administrator, User:Inshaneee, known to have an interest in the paranormal, over the appropriateness of a project label on the talk page. In subsequent complaints on WP:AN, several editors associated with User:Worldtraveller volunteered extremely strong statements about Inshaneee's adminship. WITHDRAWN (see comments below)
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I would love to be proved wrong here, but the Scoobies have been acting so weirdly over the past six months that I can't be the only person to have noticed. It's like they turned into pod people or something. --Tony Sidaway 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)- The immediately preceding comment by Tony Sidaway is more uncivil and offensive than any of the behavior (by either party) underlying the arbitration case. Newyorkbrad 02:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I (Worldtraveller) started the article Red rain in Kerala and contributed much of its content. 81.179.115.188 02:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I formally apologise to Worldtraveller and withdraw this propoed finding of fact. I did not know that he had created the article. I don't think it's uncivil to try to find the truth. --Tony Sidaway 02:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd like to see the characterization of experienced, respected Wikipedians as "the Scoobies" and "pod people" withdrawn and apologized for as well. Newyorkbrad 02:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- No. They've been behaving very, very oddly for some time now and it doesn't do to deny it. It is a fact that the Scoobies have made a habit of attacking other respected Wikipedians, to the extent of demanding that they relinquish all duties on Misplaced Pages. That kind of behavior, in my opinion, is beyond belief. Absolutely beyond understanding. Vindictive, spiteful and I hope, one day to be foresworn. --Tony Sidaway 02:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I accept Tony's apology but would second Newyorkbrad's suggestion and also hope Tony will remove his proposed principle above entitled 'Trolling'. 81.179.115.188 02:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd like to see the characterization of experienced, respected Wikipedians as "the Scoobies" and "pod people" withdrawn and apologized for as well. Newyorkbrad 02:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I formally apologise to Worldtraveller and withdraw this propoed finding of fact. I did not know that he had created the article. I don't think it's uncivil to try to find the truth. --Tony Sidaway 02:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Isn't it unfair to imply that Worldtraveller was jumping in on something he had little interest in just because it was Inshaneee who was editing it? (I assume that Tony is trying to imply that, because it's the meaning I pick up from his proposed finding of fact.) Worldtraveller actually started that article. See the very first version of it. ElinorD (talk) 02:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Inshanee blocked Worldtraveller inappropriately
3) The block of User:81.178.208.69 by Inshaneee was not supported by the blocking policy.
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- I don't think anyone seriously disputes this. Inshaneee fucked up and realizes he fucked up. --Tony Sidaway 02:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Endorse (the proposal, not the phrasing of the comment). Fixed a typo. Newyorkbrad 02:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
The block review process failed
4) User:Worldtraveller, editing anonymously, placed a block review template on his talk page half-way through his block, but this was not reviewed before the twenty-four hour block ended.
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- For what it's worth. It puzzles me that User:Worldtraveller didn't simply tell one of his colleagues, many of whom are administrators, that he'd been wrongly blocked. What was the problem? I'm still very suspicious about the role of the Scoobies here. It worries me that all they showed up so early in the discussion and expressed opinions so clearly at variance with those of the other respected editors. Yet none of them realised that the blocked editor was their friend! Pull the other one. --Tony Sidaway 02:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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Worldtraveller deliberately misrepresented his identity
5) For unknown reasons, Worldtraveller misrepresented his Misplaced Pages status, referring to the "four edits I've made" " ., "It really won't take you long at all to assess whether I vandalised anything - I've got very few edits." ,
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- Sure, it could be innocent. *just*. But again, why did this editor choose to get into an argument with a respected administrator in his first edits on Misplaced Pages in months, and why did he claim to be a newcomer in the middle of the argument? This looks like a troll, a fit-up. We've seen this before, only usually the trolls are not previously respected editors. --Tony Sidaway 03:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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1) When Worldtraveler raised his objections to the block on the Administrators Noticeboard after its expiration, InShaneee failed to respond to the concerns and questions expressed by Worldtraveler and by several administrators in a reasonably satisfactory manner. Over the ensuing two months, Worldtraveler pursued the matter, culminating in this arbitration case.
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- Proposed. Newyorkbrad 03:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
InShaneee's recent statement
1) In his statement with respect to the Arbitration Committee's acceptance of this case, InShaneee has acknowledged that the block that is the subject of this case was improper. InShaneee has also indicated that he intends to focus his administrator activities in upcoming months on less contentious areas than those he has addressed heretofore. See Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/InShaneee#Statement by InShaneee. InShaneee's comments provide a reasonable basis for expecting that his conduct at issue in this case will not be repeated.
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- Proposed. Newyorkbrad 03:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Certain allegations rejected
1) With respect to the allegation that InShaneee improperly unblocked himself in violation of the blocking policy, it appears that confusion arose because another administrator intended to unblock InShaneee's account and instead unblocked an imposter account. Accordingly, this allegation is rejected. Additionally, no basis for action is found regarding InShaneee's seeking the delisting of the prior Request for comment against him in view of apparent ambiguity concerning when, if ever, administrator-conduct and user-conduct RfC's should be de-listed.
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Worldtraveller repeatedly harassed InShaneee
1) Worldtraveller repeatedly harassed InShaneee
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- I think this is the problem. Had Worldtraveller accepted that his grievance had been aired and InShanee accepted that he's jumped the gun in blocking him, I don't think we'd have a case here. --Tony Sidaway 03:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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