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| width="90%" | Unfortunately, ] with a final tally of '''75]/38/10'''. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral ]s and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to ''']''' '']'', ], and <strong>]</strong> for their co-nominations and support. <span style="background-color: |
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''The following has been moved here by myself. It was originally posted on Giano's talk page. Giano removed it from his talk page and paste it to WP:AN. I am moving it from WP:AN to here. ''']]''' 22:31, 22 February 2010 (UTC)'' | |||
''The following has been moved by me (Giano) from my talk as it is clearly meant for a wider audience than mu humble talk page - delete it of you want, just don't return to sender. <small><span style="border:1px solid Blue;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 22:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)'' | |||
Hello, Giano. I don't believe we've ever spoken directly, until now. Perhaps speaking to you now is a bad idea, but especially if I'm going to leave forever, I feel like I need to know: why do you have such strong feelings towards me? I understand that you do not think highly of IRC, and that you don't think my work here is of high quality, and you didn't have a high opinion of my friend Neuro. But why is this personal to you? I'm not interested in arguing... I'm just curious. ''']]''' 05:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
*Regarding your first point, it's not possible to be personal with something called a "Flying Toaster" which one has never met or even interacted, so let's kill that one stone dead. I am completely indifferent to whether you stay or leave. However, I am not completely indifferent to "your" work because much of it is not your work is it? I find it a disgrace, if not totally surprising, that a person who has so little knowledge of Misplaced Pages and its content's authenticity can garner tens of votes for their adminship off-site on IRC to such an extent that they can even win that Adminship. You only resigned your tools because, after you were exposed, an overwhelming number of people agreed with me. Even now, you seem to feel you have been wronged and have done little to redress you blatant breach of copyright law. Yes, law! We rightly don't do legal threats here, but even Wikipedians are subject to the law. Your editing and ignorance brought the project into disrepute; that, cannot be tolerated. As you waltz back here, you appear surprised and wounded not to be welcomed back and instantly promoted to Admin - I find that astounding. Regarding your friend Neuro, isn't he the person who had to apologise for libelling me on a the website of a highly respected national newspaper? - so I don't think we really need to go there - do we? I survive here because on occasions I am bloody useful to the project - when you can say honestly the same then I may feel more kindly disposed towards you. You might also like to note that one does not need Admins' tools to have power here. In fact, one can often be more powerful without the tools. <small><span style="border:1px solid Blue;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 08:15, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Thank you for the reply. I did want to address a few of your points. | |||
::#I never asked anyone on IRC to vote for me. I assure you those logs would have surfaced if I did; there were several people looking for them. | |||
::#I had no idea about neuro's off-wiki comment when I nominated him for admin. He'd forgotten about it himself. When they came to light, he and I discussed them and decided he should withdraw. Had they come to light earlier, I would not have nominated him. I don't endorse that kind of behavior against anyone. | |||
::#I don't like writing articles much. People like you are incredible at it. I just liked taking care of backlogs, and that's all I wanted to do. If you'll look at my edit history, you'll see writing articles is an incredibly small portion of what I was doing. I was maintaining, not creating. I wanted better tools to fight backlogs, and knew I should at least get some practice writing articles before an RfA, so I tried a few. Parts of those were insufficiently paraphrased - an easily fixable problem - and now I'm basically being told I should retire my account in a black mark over it. If Peter Damian had brought article concerns to light a week before my RfA, I would've failed, learned, and passed in three months. Since they were brought up immediately after my RfA, people seem to think I can never again be in good standing, and even creating a new account is some form of treachery. And really, after people were trying to disturb my off-wiki life over this, is it really worth all the pain just to fight vandalism? I'm sure you can understand my frustration. A simple mistake over something I was doing only for practice means I can never do what I actually want to do, which is valuable to this project if you value its contents. As an article creator, at least you will always be able to do what you want to do, and you do it well. | |||
:Anyway, you don't need to respond if you don't want. I just felt there was something unresolved with you, and I should give you the opportunity to tell me what it is directly. Sincerely, ''']]''' 18:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Hope you don't mind me dropping in here FT (and Giacomo), but I commend your civil reply here to Giano, who to my mind worded his comments to you here and on WP:AN more harshly than was necessary (though I do agree with the gist of his concerns). I also wanted to point out that I don't think most people were saying you "should retire account in a black mark over it," meaning, I assume, that you should retire it because you "can never again be in good standing." I think some, including me and also Durova, were saying you should move on to another account if you were still concerned about harassment stemming from the last incident. If that's not a major worry for you at this point I would strongly encourage you to continue editing as FlyingToaster, and this is what most others said as well. Only a couple people seemed to be saying you needed to start over with a new account because this one was sullied, and I think that was bad advice. The key messages I would take away from the AN thread if I were you (and obviously you don't need to listen to me) would be as follows: 1) An RfA would be necessary if you want to regain adminship, and the AN thread did rub some people the wrong way; 2) People definitely still want you to stay here as a contributor and encourage you to get back into the mix; 3) That should start with cleaning up any copyright problems on articles you created or expanded; 4) After x amount of time making good contributions and demonstrating that past problems have been remedied a number of people would be willing to consider supporting you again at RfA. Obviously there are some who will never be willing to offer support and will essentially oppose automatically, but a large number of others will be willing to give you a second chance. --] <small>| ] | ]</small> 18:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::FT. I concur with BigTimePeace. There are a number of users who are deeply upset by off wiki discussions that then have ramifications on wiki, but that doesn't mean that all IRC users are contentious any more than everyone who posts at WR is. Until the copyvio business you were supported at RFA by a large enough majority to constitute consensus. Fix the copyvio stuff and you could make admin yet, but I'd suggest forgetting about RFA for a few months. As for Giano, you've offered an olive branch, no need to interact with him again if you don't want to. '']]<span style="color:DarkOrange">Chequers''</span> 22:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks for the note, WereSpielChequers. I have no intention of contacting Giano again. ''']]''' 23:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
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