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{{Quotation|Five monks were meditating when suddenly the wind picked up and a flag nearby flapped in the wind.<br><br> The first monk, the youngest of the group, broke his meditation and shouted, "Flag is moving!"<br><br>The second monk shouted, "Wind is moving!"<br><br>The third monk shouted, "Mind is moving!"<br><br>The fourth monk shouted, "Nothing is moving!"<br><br>The fifth monk, the eldest of the group, shouted, "Mouths are moving!"}} | {{Quotation|Five monks were meditating when suddenly the wind picked up and a flag nearby flapped in the wind.<br><br> The first monk, the youngest of the group, broke his meditation and shouted, "Flag is moving!"<br><br>The second monk shouted, "Wind is moving!"<br><br>The third monk shouted, "Mind is moving!"<br><br>The fourth monk shouted, "Nothing is moving!"<br><br>The fifth monk, the eldest of the group, shouted, "Mouths are moving!"}} | ||
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== Faith in the Kalama Sutta == | |||
The offending section has seemed to have disappeared since you asked my help on this. It seems good as it now stands, but I added my ha'peth worth about faith in the ] article instead ] (]) 16:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
You requested this article in the Buddhism Wikiproject. Someone did ''a lot'' of work and made it on their own: ]. Thought you might want to check it out! <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 17:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
: Thank you for the heads up. That filled a big gap in the religion section of the ]. ''''']''''' 16:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
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So, I might contribute to pretty much any wikiproject, including yours if I happen to feel like it (right now I don't) but I won't make the formal commitment of signing my name to the page or adding some silly category tag, "Support of Wikiproject Whatever," to my userpage. With that said, I think that the lack of good outlines is the least of Misplaced Pages's issues. | |||
Thanks for the offer, though. <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 16:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, | |||
You've got SRA on your hall of shame page. Now that ResearchEditor has been blocked, I wonder if you still think it belongs there? Just curiosity... ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 15:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I thought I deleted that page? I remember somebody complaining about it, that it was "uncivil," etc.. I don't update that page anymore. | |||
:Anyway, it wasn't that specific user or edit which I thought was shameful: It was the existence of the entire page. You had a page devoted to a phenomenon that ''never actually happened''. At the time, the article was regularly filled with allegations and speculations that SRA actually might've gone on and I thought that was a LOL funny. | |||
:Looking at it now, it seems like the article is much better, no doubt due to the banning of a whole slew of editors and a small group of rational individual editors putting their feet down over such nonsense. | |||
:Thanks for reminding me, btw, about all of my stupid subpages. I need to delete some of them. <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 15:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
::You could always slap a {{tl|db-userreq}} on it. Glad you're happy with the current SRA, it was a labour of hate. I really hated the douchebag who thought it was real. ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 16:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I am currently trying to help the editors in the {{la|Falun Gong}} topic area move away from POV pushing and personal commentary. (Please note: ].) You are an editor that I believe can help facilitate this change. I am looking for some uninvolved people with experience and savvy to become involved in the editorial process. A review of the article and associated discussion, in a style similar to a good article review or broad RfC response, would be a good first step and very helpful. However, some leadership in discussion and editing as a whole would be invaluable and sincerely appreciated. This can cover a very broad range including (but not limited to) identifying article flaws, keeping conversation focused on content, reporting disruptive editors, making proposed compromises, boldly correcting errors, and so forth. If you are willing to help out, please look things over and provide your feedback on the Falun Gong talk page. Essentially, we need some experienced editors to put things on track. Any assistance in this regard is gratefully welcomed. Thanks! ] (]) 06:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Hey, I'm asking you this because you seem like the type of person who'd know... | |||
Do you know if there's any place on Misplaced Pages where a person can request that a piece of artwork be made for Misplaced Pages (for the Wikimedia Commons)? I know there's a place for people can request scripts or bots, so I thought, why not art? | |||
Because I had a good idea for something for the ] article, which would also be a fun project: It would be neat to have a single image depicting the various mythological creatures of Buddhist cosmology. ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s, etc.. There are ''some'' pictures of these things on the Commons already, but they're not very good and couldn't be combined into a single presentation, for instance, for the ] article or the Buddhist Outline. <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 12:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Revert == | |||
Why did you revert my edit here? ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 02:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:To remove this unsourced/uncited controversial statement: | |||
"When he got there, he found that Buddhism, which had already been established, was perverted by superstitious devotionalism, devoid of true insight. Thus, Bodhidharma focused on direct insight about one's own experience, under the instruction of a Zen teacher, discouraging misguided veneration of Buddhas for the sake of superstition."] (]) 18:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
::I didn't add that, though. I ''restored'' it after a user removed a fair amount of content from that section without explanation. I agree that anything there which is not sourced ''should'' be sourced, though, so would it be okay if I restored it and added a {{fact}} tag? When you made that revert, you also removed a paragraph that was previously there and was sourced. <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 18:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
::: Fair enough. Regarding Barry Graham - while wikipedia shouldn't be in the business of determining who is and isn't a "legitimate" representative of any religion - Barry has been the subject of a wide controversy and follow-up investigation by the American Zen Teachers Association, as well as the Soto-shu administration in Japan - the findings were that regardless of his current relationship with any teacher, his "past story" about training in Scotland, and receiving transmission in Japan are completely false. Now, if this were an article about Barry, or even about Western Zen authors - then I could see where it would be appropriate to list him, along with mentioning the "controversy" with citations for "his story" as well as the official findings and statements calling him a fraud. But this isn't that - it's an article about Zen in general, and this seems too thorny an issue to bring up there. Does that make sense? ] (]) 02:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Accusations of bad faith == | |||
are beneath you, when what you say is not supported by the evidence. Please strike or remove. These issues that you claim are small cut right to the heart of the matter, and have been staple of that ]s editing - which has involved meatpuppetry, misuse of ] etc, and other tendentious and disruptive editing tactics. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 21:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
(Referring to the ] article) | |||
:I'm not accusing either of you of bad faith. I'm saying you're both good faith editors who are misjudging eachother as bad faith editors. | |||
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:I agree it's extremely annoying for a single editor to ''dominate'' an article the way that Noirtist does, but from what I've seen of his edits so far, they aren't too contentious. <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 21:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Bibbity booooooobahbabbity, Zenwhat!!! | |||
:: I disagree. You say I revert all his edits, that's a bad faith accusation as it is clearly untrue. I do revert or copyedit his bad edits. I'm afraid he has shown his colours and is clearly editing with an agenda on this page and not with the goals of the project in mind. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 21:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
'''Bibbity booooooobahbabbity!'''''--] (]) 12:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)Italic text'' | |||
:::He listed his 13 edits, they seemed fairly reasonable, even if many were arbitrary, and you regarded them all as wrong, and reverted all of it, which seemed unnecessary. A POV-pusher isn't going to bother to take the time to itemize his edits. POV-pushers also tend to be highly concerned with ''removing'' certain content, but from what I've seen thus, he's been reasonable, allowing or even adding content critical of Stevenson. Both of you have been reverting eachother's edits for relatively silly, minor, trivial issues, which both, as I said, lean in the direction of weasel words but never goes so far as to be a serious problem. <font size="4">]</font> <font face="impact"> ]</font> (]) 22:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::: Incorrect again. You don't seem to have dealt with many POV pushers in the pseudoscience area. Take Dana Ullman for example, this is very similar behaviour. As you said his 13 edits were arbitrary, apart from a few that were clearly non neutral and incorrect. Hence I reverted them all. After he "justified" his edits I reverted only those that were still incorrect. You are enabling his bad faith and anti-wikipedia behaviour, and the only reason I take issue with you making incorrect accusations of bad faith rather than other editors there is because you are reasonable. If this is an attempt at being even handed it is coming across rather badly, especially the demonstratively false and bad faith accusation you have made. You are support the weasel worded, anti wikipedia version through you enabling and bad faith comments. I hope you look again and realise this. I do not regard the whitewashing of this material as a minor issue, and he has only kept material he has been forced to. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 09:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
You have yet to refactor or strike this bad faith accusation, which has been picked up on by another editor. Note the other editor has several times taken me to ANI, where the community has decided I have acted correctly and in defence of NPOV. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 10:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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At first I tried purifying my mistakes, but then started looking for people (ex-members of Jetsunma's temple) who would tell me what I wanted to hear. I convinced myself that if Jetsunma wouldn't let me wear the robes of a nun when I still had some of my vows unbroken, then she was putting me in danger of breaking the remaining vows and had no compassion for me whatsoever. I didn't see that she had confidence in me that I'd stick with it. | |||
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Once I'd convinced myself she had no compassion (for not giving me what I wanted) I decided I needed to "save" people from Jetsunma and began this crusade against her. I filtered everything through this new lens of "she has no compassion" without considering that I was the one who wasn't considering the effect of my actions on others. The aggressive slant of the Misplaced Pages article was part of that crusade. | |||
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I spent 13 years trying to connect to other Dharma centers and teachers and kept running into my own mind and all the anger I'd created. Finally, one Lama told me to thank my teachers, that that's why I couldn't move on. | |||
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Don't buy into The Buddha From Brooklyn. You've met one of the main people responsible for the attitudes in that book. Martha Sherrill could only write from the sources she had. ] (]) 13:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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