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:'''Request from user to admin''': To the admin clerk and to whomever resolving this issue, I have a request. Please evaluate both sides and it should not be one sided. ] has only highlighted the sockpuppery cases of ]. I dont know why he is ignoring the other side. If he not interested to enquire the other side,it proves the '''admin notice board case on ]''' here: has some meaning. The parties involved are same. -- ] 08:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC) :'''Request from user to admin''': To the admin clerk and to whomever resolving this issue, I have a request. Please evaluate both sides and it should not be one sided. ] has only highlighted the sockpuppery cases of ]. I dont know why he is ignoring the other side. If he not interested to enquire the other side,it proves the '''admin notice board case on ]''' here: has some meaning. The parties involved are same. -- ] 08:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::{{clerknote}} Not to say that sort of discussion is irrelevant -- it can be very important -- but that's not the matter at hand on this page, and RfCU isn't a discussion page. Please direct any and all further such discussion to ] or to this page's talk page. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 15:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC) &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 15:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC) ::{{clerknote}} Not to say that sort of discussion is irrelevant -- it can be very important -- but that's not the matter at hand on this page, and RfCU isn't a discussion page. Please direct any and all further such discussion to ] or to this page's talk page. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 15:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC) &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 15:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:{{Declined}}. Hurts the eyes. --]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 21:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


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Sundaram7

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Filed: 08:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: D, E

The first 4 users voted the same way (keep) at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Popular_Front_of_India. Bharatson and Ramduke haven't made any edits outside of AfD. The others have also been involved in edit-warring at National Development Front. I had to fully protect the page today because of the constant edit-warring. See the history of the article to see the many instances where they have reverted to each others' version to evade 3RR. Aksi_great (talk) 08:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment: I was unaware of Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pens withdrawn when I filed this case. It has already been proven that Bharatson is a sockpuppet of Sundaram7. But I would still like to know if Truehindu and NotBound are sockpuppets and if yes then who is still continuing sockpuppetry - Sundaram or Fear the Fire. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 Clerk note:: Moved to Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pens withdrawn. Real96 21:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

 Additional information needed Per E (3RR violation using socks), please list four differences showing the 3RR violation. Real96 21:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment from user: What User:Aksi_great argue is incorrect. There might be a lot of people in the same IP domain thinking in the same way and posting their comments. The administrator in previous case said Likely that Sundaram7 = Bharatson, but it was just based on his assumption and not confired and proved. Please see where Thatcher131 is not sure that the others are my sock puppet but he has blocked me already. Thre is a 3RR related to the article National Development Front which is explained in a different stream and . The 3RR is not from me but related these cases. Fortunately the users were already being blocked based on other requests. Sundaram7 05:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Here are 2 sets of reverts made by the users. If they all are the same person, it would have breached 3RR.
3 reverts
Another set of 3 reverts
Both of the users Sundaram7 and Fear the Fire have been involved in previous sockpuppetry cases. Hence I suspect that either one, or both of them are still using socks to revert war. - Aksi_great (talk) 11:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


It is true that I had to do many reverts because the article is constantly attacked by vandals. See the The talk page, where i have discussed reasons for every reverts(, ). Some editors have tried to change the entire structure and content of the article(, ) in one stretch , for which I followed a step by step approach to keep the article in the same framework which was created by admins here and also push the POVs under critisism section so that there wont be constant fights regarding those issues. I don't think there was a need for me to breach 3RR. It doesn't make any sense that i have sock puppet just to prevent 3rr warnings. There are lot of people and lot of sock puppets trying to destroy the article of which few are already blocked.

Regarding the first set, I see user User:NotBound involved in it. it looks like he was active just for that day in wikipedia. Maybe User:NotBound and User:Wrong_not(was listed as my sock puppet) are one. User:Wrong_not was blocked and this might be his new ID. I have already said that i am working on a large LAN when I got the sock puppet warning from User:Thatcher131 () Regarding the second set, i am not involved and there is again a chance that User:Truehindu == User:NotBound. -- Fear the Fire 12:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment: need facts, not assumptions: It looks like user:Aksi_great is mislead by user:Bakasuprman from the discussion page Talk:National_Development_Front. I am not involved in any other sockpuppetry cases than this and user:Aksi_great has created a redundant check user for me at . But the users who really tamperted the article are ignored. see the cases
  • Hkelkar
  • Lionheart5,
  • Bakasuprman,
  • 128.83.114.37
  • and 70.113.112.244 are related to the subject.
The real vandalism and 3RR are here
I am not a sockpuppet of Hkelkar as has been proved a bazillion times. Such allegations only come from banned islamofascist trolls, and I have no qualms attacking those that fool themselves into propagating such myths. I have never used sockpuppets in an abusive manner unlike Hkelkar and sundaram/pens withdrawn/bhaisaab/ terryjho/etc.Bakaman 04:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Can u mention, where i used a suckpuppet in abusive manner??.. if u are talking about User:Wrong_not, what did that user do?? he had contributed only once in wiki which was a revert for the changes made by a vandal ip. If i am the same user, I could have easily reverted myself without any edit warning... I dont understand why u keep so much hatred towards muslims???
If any nuetral person analyse the history of that article, they can simply arrive at a conclusion that u are one among the facists. Your edit are simply similar to the edits of those banned users Hkelkar, Lionheart5 and others ips. Only thing is that recently you are very cautious in your efforts to degrade the article, that too after the intervention of admins. Check the very first edit of Bakaman in the article ( -- he gave a new founder to the organization who is one of the accused terrorist and changed "NDF is an Human Rights Organisation" to "NDF is an Terrorist Organisation" and later on it was changed to islamic militant organization. huh!!!!) -- Fear the Fire 06:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Request from user to admin: To the admin clerk and to whomever resolving this issue, I have a request. Please evaluate both sides and it should not be one sided. User:Aksi_great has only highlighted the sockpuppery cases of user:sundaram7. I dont know why he is ignoring the other side. If he not interested to enquire the other side,it proves the admin notice board case on User:Aksi_great here: has some meaning. The parties involved are same. -- Sundaram7 08:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 Clerk note: Not to say that sort of discussion is irrelevant -- it can be very important -- but that's not the matter at hand on this page, and RfCU isn't a discussion page. Please direct any and all further such discussion to WP:AN/I or to this page's talk page. – Luna Santin (talk) 15:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC) – Luna Santin (talk) 15:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
no Declined. Hurts the eyes. --jpgordon 21:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


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Pens withdrawn

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Filed: 12:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Added by Bakasuprman (talk)
  • Code letter: B, C,E

BhaiSaab (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and TerryJ-Ho (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) are banned for one year per Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar, and have already been caught using sockpuppets at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/MinaretDk. Pens withdrawn and Wrong_not are two new accounts that have been edit warring with an anonymous IP editor from the University of Texas at Austin (obviously Hkelkar) at National Development Front (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Thatcher131 12:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

There is a better chance pens is related to the users I listed. They have engaged in votestacking here.Bakaman 01:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
information Note: Sockpuppets blocked, main accounts warned. Thanks Dmcdevit! Thatcher131 02:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


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