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I just copied and pasted the lead, re-worded it slightly, changed a few minor things and Deckiller was kind enough to give it a ce. I removed the songs as they would always be stubs, and i agree with you on the big 4 project, much like the trivium and gwar one. ] 06:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC) I just copied and pasted the lead, re-worded it slightly, changed a few minor things and Deckiller was kind enough to give it a ce. I removed the songs as they would always be stubs, and i agree with you on the big 4 project, much like the trivium and gwar one. ] 06:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:Nice work on SOH btw, it's ready for GA i think - the back cover needs a source though. ] 08:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC) :Nice work on SOH btw, it's ready for GA i think - the back cover needs a source though. ] 08:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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M3tal H3ad

Thanks for that, after Lombardo I'll work on Show No Mercy which i expanded yesterday then King and possibly God hates us all (kind of recent so should be able to find a decent amount of stuff), M3tal H3ad 02:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration would be nice :), regarding reign in blood i can't find the studio and need members comments during the recording process, how long it took and stuff - that kind of info is scarce. I don't think there's enough editors to better articles on the big four, we do Slayer, the creator does Megadeth, Anthrax has 0 references, Metallica is alright but far from GA. M3tal H3ad 02:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I think i could get Angel of Death (song) to FA, and was hoping you could help me out, do you see any information missing that would fail as comprehensive? Also on the peer-review "Article doesn't deal with notable cover versions of the track, and how these covers were critically recieved." I know its been covered by Cradle of Filth and one or two other bands but can't find any reliable references - just download sites. M3tal H3ad 04:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, still lots more to go. Also i can't find any information about the song being released as a single (no proper picture and track listing), should i just change it to song?. M3tal H3ad 08:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Big Four

1. I'm totaly keeping in mind the Metal Genre Wikiproject. I haven't had a change to really develop an opinion of it. Why are you not in favor of it, is it too broad, or the people in it are not serious?

2.I would like there to be more eyes on the Big Four and I think that the Metal Wikiproject's scope is too big. I would like the Slayer Wikiproject to merge with the Big Four (there are only several members anyway) and become part of a bigger, more serious, editing audience. Thank You for you concern and opinions!!! Adumbvoget 06:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

A little something in return...

I don't like to sound mercenary, but I was wondering if you could do me a favour. I'm thinking about nominating Isis for GA; I'm not asking you to completely review it, but I understand you take part in these reviews and am curious as to whether a vet like you thinks it'd be a wise nomination. If you've not got time (I can see you're doing a shitload of Slayer stuff at the moment), don't worry. Thanks in advance. Seegoon 18:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your response - I'll definitely take all you said on board... and I'd prefer to be scrutinised by a picky reviewer than a lax one. As for Slayer, I'll give it a once-over at some point tomorrow. I remember reviewing it at PR a little while back, and it definitely had sufficient content in my eyes. As for the prose, I'll be anal as hell about it. Are you pushing for eventual FA with it? Seegoon 00:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, sure thing. Makes little to no difference anyway. Seegoon 00:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Here are my thoughts:

  • "Like Slayer's two previous albums, all rhythm tracks on Christ Illusion were laid down by King." - "rhythm" is ambiguous. Rhythm, i.e. backing guitar, bass, drums? I'm a little confused.
  • ""a non-profit corporation in the State of Wyoming,"" - I'd put the comma outside the quotation marks, but that's personal preference.
  • There's a possibility that the use of the phrase "conservative retailers" will appear NPOV to some FAC reviewers. You'd know more about that than me.

Overall, the prose is very sound. The lead is particularly concise and logical. I don't see any glaring flaws here; good luck. Seegoon 16:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about the Rubin bit, it sounded OK to me. As for "Slayer came under fire due to several concerns surrounding Christ Illusion", I wouldn't describe it as "redundant", if that's what Ceoil did. Maybe he objected to using "Slayer" and "Christ Illusion", and felt you could use a pronoun in their stead. Either way, I personally am totally satisfied with it. Glancing over the featured article criteria, which I am only vaguely familiar with, I don't see any stumbling blocks for you. I guess you'll just have to take the plunge! Seegoon 02:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

1c

If none of the keep votes state the reasons why the article does not fail 1c, and that's the concern addressed, then they cannot be counted. FAR reviews articles against the featured article criteria; it is not a room to determine what those criteria mean, so those keep votes are obsolete unless they prove that the article passes 1c. — Deckiller 23:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Evanescence

check this, Fallen nomiation. Armando.O 21:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I've checked it. But you need to paste the last thing I've posted. Check again
Yes, I know but I really disagree with most of the reasons stated. Armando.O 22:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I really hope that happens. If not, the only thing I and other contributors can do is to keep working and working to see if we can get the article to GA status (like Evanescence).. Armando.O 22:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No reason

There is no real reson to write this, except to say hello, and also to say it's nice to see your name on the GAR pages (I'm on there wih Mal Evans at the moment). All the best. ThE bEaTLeS aka andreasegde 18:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami

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Antioxidant FAC

Hi there, I've added webcite templates to the three web references. If you have any other comments, they would be very welcome. TimVickers 20:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I've never seen that done, I think the reference would be complete without the link, but the PubMed link is added just for the reader's convenience. By the way, I have stolen your talk page formatting, and it looks very nice indeed. Thank you. TimVickers 00:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Feeder (band) Peer review

Howdy!!, thanks very much for your feedback on the afforementioned article!!!. Will get working on your pointers during the week! :).

Marcus Bowen 21:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Heavy metal music FAR

Was almost tempted to leave a Messages left at LuciferMorgan comment here ;). I can add sound files and work on Black and Doom metal subsections. Any suggestions re files? Ceoil 23:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Infinite monkey theorem

I've overhauled Infinite monkey theorem, so please revisit its FAR. Thanks! Melchoir 08:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

About Pmanderson singling you out: try not to worry about it. I've concluded that some people restrict their statements-about-content to particular users because they worry that their points don't hold up on their own. For example, if an article clearly does not pass 1c, then it is much easier to complain that a single user's 1c demands are groundless than to say the same of all such demands. If you read such statements as admitting weakness, then they're much easier to ignore. Melchoir 21:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Anyway… did you want to comment on the new version and/or change your !vote? Melchoir 03:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Good Article

Your GA nomination of Still Reigning

The article Still Reigning you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Still Reigning for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a review. Tellyaddict 23:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems the HMM Wikiproject is reviewing good articles now, i've nominated it for GA/R here M3tal H3ad 00:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, and Death and state funeral of Ronald Reagan

Thanks for the template citing page. I thought that everything was cited correctly, No? Get back to me on my talk page please. Ty. -- Happyme22 03:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I'll try doing that. You've been a big help. Happyme22 05:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

God hates us all

Edit away, I'm just randomly putting in sentences with all the info i can gather and will combine them all later. M3tal H3ad 05:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

On the Angel of Death GA review (only decent review a Slayer article has got) the user suggested somewhat a music and structure section. I started it and can be found here would appreciate if you could take a look. M3tal H3ad 06:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Kneale FAC

Well there are no actual objections so far, anyway. So that's a positive. I'm more than prepared to act on specific criticisms, but thus far there haven't really been any, just general comments. We shall see how it goes, anyway. Angmering 19:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Adrianna Lamalle

Hi Lucifer! You removed {{WikiProject France}} from the talk page! Any reason for that? STTW (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Still Reigning

Emailed you two articles. I think one of them calls the two main guys of Slayer "the Lennon and McCartney of thrash metal" or something similar. I just glanced at them, didn't read carefully. Hope they help. --Ling.Nut 11:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Typo

Thanks for correcting that! — Deckiller 02:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Still Reigning

Hi there, I'd appreciate it if you would not make comments on User talk pages (User:Michaelas10) about my reviews of this article, I found them to be quite offensive as you were saying they were lame. I'd appreciate it if in the future you could refrain from this kind of thing and please try to remain civil. Thanks and I'm sure your intentions were good! Regards - Tellyaddict 22:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

The truth hurts i guess. Your review was lame all your "reasons" for failing the article were crap. You didn't say any criteria it failed, or make any valid points. I suggest you read the GA criteria and know what you're doing before reviewing an article, hellooo Lucifer btw :D M3tal H3ad 04:53, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
WP:CIVIL has been quoted to me a few times, but I prefer not to sugarcoat my opinions that's all. Hi Metalhead btw :D LuciferMorgan 20:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Slayer Discography

I think you mentioned somewhere it could become a featured list. I was wondering how it could become one, like whats required, what needs to be added etc etc. If it wasn't you sorry to bother you. M3tal H3ad 05:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Incase you forgot :) M3tal H3ad 11:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • So, remove the "Label" column and write a paragraph about the label at the top of the label section.
  • Remove the peak, certification, release date columns, and write a paragraph about the album with those things and a bit more info?
  • Move the singles, and other appearances to an article called something else
So it's basically a picture of the cover and a short description with the albums split into their label sections? M3tal H3ad 09:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Christ Illusion

It's featured :) Congrats. — Deckiller 06:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats x 2, very nice work :) M3tal H3ad 06:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Well done, good work! Angmering 15:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Excellent mate. Didn't know you had an FAC running. Don't forget to put the featured star on the article and please, folks, leave it for Lucifer to do! He should have the honour of placing the tag :) --kingboyk 16:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everyone, and thanks for all those who helped in bringing the article to FAC. In reply to Kingboyk (congrats on KLF being main page btw), nope I didn't inform people of the FAC as I thought it may be seen as trying to encourage support for the article - I wouldn't want to be seen doing that! So yeah, it feels kinda cool to have my first FA (which all you have already had the honour of). It makes me feel like I know what I'm speaking of when reviewing others articles now :) LuciferMorgan 20:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It's well a deserved feeling, I'm sure ;) Ceoil 21:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Good man. The first one is the hardest, I think, so keep em coming won't you. --kingboyk 23:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hopefully. Sometimes I find certain editors detrimental when trying to improve an article - the Metal articles have a bad habit of having people who protect them and revert good edits, keeping the cruft in. Right now I'm looking at getting "Eyes of the Insane" to GA (currently at peer review, so feel free to take a look. LuciferMorgan 23:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

WBFAN corrections

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Brian Epstein

Thank you, LuciferMorgan, as always. andreasegde 21:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

"Removing links per..."

Hey. I noticed you have been removing external links to Encyclopaedia Metallum and Rockdetector "per Misplaced Pages:Verifiability". However, WP:V was not the external links guideline, as that is Misplaced Pages:External links. I wrote "was", because WP:V has recently been superseded by Misplaced Pages:Attribution. If links to websites that contain user-submitted content were not allowed, you should put {{Discogs artist}}, {{Last.fm}}, {{Metallum}}, et cetera, to Tfd. But as far as I know, WP:EL does not prevent from linking to them. Also, Slayer references from Rockdetector 15 times and it was promoted to FA, so if you consider this website a poor source you should probably start from that article. Thanks, Prolog 12:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Of course, I agree that Encyclopaedia Metallum is far from a good source, but information on bands' official websites should not always be considered reliable either. It's great that WP:HMM finally has the assessment department, so thanks for your work with it. I've seen your assessments pop up on my watchlist, and I hope I have some time to help out with that. The high number of mediocre stubs is probably due to many things; articles are often created by new users and/or non-native English speakers, lack of reliable sources and enough non-trivial coverage for non-mainstream bands, very different interests in bands and genres, et cetera. I know I as a non-native English speaker do not have the best prose in this language, so it makes more sense to concentrate on stub/start class articles. Christ Illusion is very impressive indeed. I've only done one very large expansion, but what made me gave up on Beherit and GA was the lack of reliable information available. Still, there are dozens of metal bands that have more than enough coverage, so there definitely is work to be done. Prolog 17:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

External links

Hi, my best guess is WP:EL or the Metal WikiProject, since it's usually a case by case basis by those familiar with the topic. — Deckiller 23:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hmm??? LuciferMorgan 19:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC) Backpacking? In an enyclopedia? Can't see there being many articles. (BTW, outside N America backpacking means international travel on a shoestring budget). --kingboyk 13:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It's odd why I got invited... all I did was make an FAR notification. LuciferMorgan 14:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

How's the backpacking Lucifer :) M3tal H3ad 08:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Jihad

It's B alright, Ceoil has uploaded music before so maybe ask him. I have no idea about the .ogg format. M3tal H3ad 07:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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GA

We seem to keep bumping into each other on the review page! Good luck with yours, as always. andreasegde 19:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Eyes of the Insane

The article looks good to me, I didn't see any problems with it at all. I would pass it but I'm trying to finish off the February and early March nominees, and don't want people to get upset with reviewing later articles. Good job so far, and I hope it does make FA. --Nehrams2020 00:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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knock knock

Heya, long time no chat. Today is the last weekday of spring break. I've been puttering around on Misplaced Pages a little bit recently, but that will probably end again after today or perhaps this weekend.
How have you been? Are you a lone voice at FAR? How is your attitude toward Misplaced Pages holding up? Etc. Later, --Ling.Nut 20:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Slayer FACs

Hey, I see on Metalheads talk you are thinking of bringing South of Heaven to GA. My openion is that both "Eyes of the Insane" and "Angel of Death" are close to FA standard, lets work on those, and then bring SOH forward. Ceoil 18:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the fact that "Eyes of the Insane" is a recent release as a problem. To be honest, is much more going to be written about the song? ;) Re: Jihad, would be happy to take a look. Ceoil 18:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't read the metal press anymore, so I'm unlikely to add content. Outside of the beatles articles there is little precedent for FAs on indivdual songs, but seeing as both these articles are comprehensive in that, well what else do you say, I would favour FAC, for both. Ceoil 19:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Ceoil 19:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Fine, although its unlikely to be an issue. Note however that I signed up to the Slayer project last week, so my contributions are no longer favours. You and Metalhead are doing great work, and I'm happy to help out when I can. Ceoil 21:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Lucifer, I have a large mp3 collection, any other files you want added, just ask. Ceoil 21:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Tenacious D

Thanks for the feedback about the song samples. I changed em and made them both 15s long. Would you consider changing your oppose vote? Tenacious D Fan (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Christ Illusion

I just copied and pasted the lead, re-worded it slightly, changed a few minor things and Deckiller was kind enough to give it a ce. I removed the songs as they would always be stubs, and i agree with you on the big 4 project, much like the trivium and gwar one. M3tal H3ad 06:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice work on SOH btw, it's ready for GA i think - the back cover needs a source though. M3tal H3ad 08:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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