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| '''<font color="red">This user is in mourning, after the death of his husband. He will not be able to edit for the coming period. But he will return. | |||
| <b>Isaac Koole; 26/10/1949--27/06/2008</b></font>]'''</div><br></center> | |||
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| '''''There will be little rubs and disappointments everywhere, and we are all apt to expect too much; but then, if one scheme of happiness fails, human nature turns to another; if the first calculation is wrong, we make a second better: we find comfort somewhere.''''' ], ] | '''''There will be little rubs and disappointments everywhere, and we are all apt to expect too much; but then, if one scheme of happiness fails, human nature turns to another; if the first calculation is wrong, we make a second better: we find comfort somewhere.''''' ], ] | ||
| , If anyone with more technical expertise can embed this I would profoundly grateful, ] (]) 23:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == To Jeff, in memory of Isaac == | |||
| ] (]) 21:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)]] | |||
| Dear Jeff, | |||
| My heart goes out to you, and I'm sending my deepest thoughts, prayers and sympathy. May the coming months be as kind to you as possible, and I hope you will find sustenance and comfort in your fond memories of Isaac. I am so so sorry for your loss and will be thinking of you. Love, ] (]) 21:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Jeff I am so sorry for your loss. ]] 22:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Jeff, | |||
| My condolences, Jeff. May you find the inner peace that you need during this time. ] (]) 22:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I'm very sorry for your loss Jeff, and you will be in my thoughts. Remember all of the love and good times you shared with your husband. ] ] 23:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Peace be with you, Jeff. I would be lost and truly alone without my wife. Return when you feel like it. We'll miss you. --] (]) 23:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Even though I've retired from Misplaced Pages, I had to log in when I heard of this. My condolences to you Jeff, as well as to your family and friends and your husband's family and friends. You are in my thoughts man and while there's just really no appropriate words for situations such as this, just know many respect and admire you and are here for you. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">✰</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">✰</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 05:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| My most heartfelt condolences. ] 5:06, 28 June , 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Jeff, I'm so sorry to hear of this. In this grief-stricken period, please accept my best wishes getting over the tragedy. Best. ] ] 06:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Words are so inadequate sometimes. I am so deeply sorry for your loss, Jeff. You and yours are in my heart. And please take care of yourself and let others help you get through this. — ] (]) 08:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| oh my god... jeff... | |||
| i'm so sorry... | |||
| i just don't know what to say... i can't even begin to imagine the pain you're going through | |||
| all i know, is that from that picture I saw of you two together on wiki, you were happy together, and that's what matters. love isn't something that dies - it will carry on with you for the rest of your life. what counts is that you both loved eachother, and you will never forget that. you were happy and in love with eachother during the time you were together - something that not all couples can say they were. | |||
| Your husband loved you and wouldn't have wanted you to be unhappy, so even in this circumstance, you must carry on strong, as that is what he would have wanted, was it not? | |||
| There are no words that can describe this. But your love for Isaac will always stay with you, and most importantly, the memories you have of him. You are a beautiful person jeff (inside and out), and there are many, many people in this world that also love you - and i am one of them. | |||
| xxxx ] 08:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Jeff, I extend my heartfelt condolences on your loss of Isaac. -] (]) 09:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Sorry to here about your loss, good luck, Godspeed, and stay strong. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 00:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| My thoughts are with you, Jeff. - Dan ] (])(]) 10:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I've admired your work on wikipedia from afar. We've never spoken directly but I wanted to give my condolences. I hope you find peace and happiness. Best Wishes. ] ] 11:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| My condolences. ''']''' <small>]</small> 11:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I don't know you, but any friend of {{ul|Moni3}} is a friend of mine. I send my condolences; I hope that the loving time you spent together built a foundation of strength that can help you through the darkness. – ] • ] 11:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 5px solid purple;" |Lost and found, my up and down;<br> | |||
| My lowly wondrous joy, my tightly bound;<br> | |||
| The breath to my lips, the kiss of my soul;<br> | |||
| My heartbeat within and pride of my whole;<br><br> | |||
| Shadows of his love, sparkles of his touch;<br> | |||
| The way we were and yet to follow;<br> | |||
| Life's luck and time's curse - so much;<br> | |||
| I have the love left behind to have and hold.<br> | |||
| :<small>For Jeffpw from ]]</small> | |||
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| You have my deepest sympathy. ]] 13:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ]<sup>]</sup> 14:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)]] | |||
| I'm so sorry. --] (]) 16:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| While we've never worked with each other, I have a few words of wisdom: Don't be afraid to reach out to people you've only known through the internet. The roughest patch of my life was made bearable because of an online friend. As anonymous and impersonal as the internet can be, I find it can be a wonderful way to be honest and truly express oneself. Even though the people around you may seem boneheaded and arrogant in debates, there really is a lot of good out there, and it's not hard to find. Peace be with you. --'''] ] · ]''' 22:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Oh Jeff, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Don't know what to say. I'm not a praying person, but you and Isaac are both in my thoughts right now. You have my deepest sympathies, Jeff - ] <sup>]</sup> 06:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| : And Jeff, just reading what you said on Will's talk page just now, I'm glad you have Isaac at home with you right now. That was ''so'' important to me and my family, too, when my dad passed away. I know it's hard, but having him back with you - his family - is so important right now, and will mean a lot to you, too, in later times. You are both still so very much in my thoughts right now - ] <sup>]</sup> 20:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| My condolences, Jeff. Being the "strong, silent type", I struggle to find words to express my sympathy but I want you to know that I'm thinking of you and I'm with you in spirit. --] (]) 09:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences go out to you. -- ] (]) 18:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="font-size: medium; padding: 1; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | {{cquote|You will find as you look back upon your life that the moments when you have truly lived are the moments when you have done things in the spirit of love.|4=]}}{{-}} | |||
| <center><font color=Indigo><small>No greater joy than to be loved; no greater sadness than love lost.<br> | |||
| So hold your memories close and protect them at any cost.<br> | |||
| Garner strength from knowing that, though he has gone,<br> | |||
| In your heart and soul, your love for him lives on.<br> | |||
| Take time to recall both the beauty and the sorrow,<br> | |||
| Knowing peace will eventually find you one morrow.<br> | |||
| In the interim, fear not the support of those you know here,<br> | |||
| For we may be at a great distance, but we honestly do care.<br> | |||
| In this time of mourning, I extend my deepest sympathies to you.<br> | |||
| And know that your families are in my thoughts, too.<br> | |||
| Jeff, though we've had few interactions that I can think of,<br> | |||
| Please accept this token from me, </font>]]<br>07:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)</small></center> | |||
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| :My deepest and most heartfelt condolences for your loss - keep your head up. Kindest regards, ] | |||
| ::My deepest heartfelt condolences, Jeff. I wish you the best, and will be praying for you and isaac at my religious services this week. <font color="amaranth">]</font>''''' <sup><font color="chocolate">]</font></sup>'''''<sub><font color="bistre">]</font></sub> 15:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::<blockquote>"Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal."</blockquote> Remember that no-one can remove those great memories. My condolences. ] <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small> 15:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::You have no need to repay me. Don't worry about it. Sincere regards, ] <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small> 17:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Everything I'd say has been expressed clearer and better above. I'll say only that our thoughts and prayers are with you and yours. Best, ] <sup> ] </sup>~<small> ] </small> 15:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Jeff, I am so sorry. I realise that nothing people can say will makes things better but I wanted you to know that your are in my thoughts. My condolences and warmest wishes. Hugs, Will (<font face="Verdana">]]</font>) 19:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I just now was linked to this page via someone else's talkpage that I watchlist. I wish I could say "I can't imagine how you're feeling", but I can. You and I have absolutely nothing in common other than our grief for a loved one lost. The grief is exquisite and seemingly neverending. Don't let anyone tell you to "get over it" or "move on". You get to decide that, no one else. Grieve, my friend. I don't know you, and you don't know me, but my eyes are welling up for you right now as I remember fondly and poignantly my lost relative/loved one, and my grief pales in comparison to yours as yours is closer to home than mine is. Grieve and cry and punch walls and scream and act irrational and cry some more and scream. It won't help anyone understand, and it won't help you feel any better, but you should do it anyway. I'm so very sorry for your loss. An empathetic new friend, ] | ] | ] 23:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :(repeated from my talkpage): :I'm glad I could help you in some trivial and small way. Be well. Be sure to eat something now and then (you won't feel like it), and be sure to sleep when you can (you won't feel like it). Isaac would want nothing less from you than to continue to let your heart beat and let your lungs breathe, and let your feet move and, eventually, let your soul sing once again. All in good time, there is no hurry. (and I'm absolutely bawling for you right now as I remember my own grief). Be well Wikiepedian...] | ] | ] 23:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Exactly, Keeper. I also was crying. Keeper's advice is good advice. Don't let others tell you how to grieve, Jeff, or how long to grieve. It's your life and your feelings. Deal with loss the way you need to, and move on when you are ready, knowing that your love will never die. And take care of your self. When my mother was dying, my brother dragged me out of the hospital and took me to eat. Best thing he did since I had lost 17 pounds in less than one week. Don't let that happen to you. You can get sick from grief. Let others take care of you also. Many big hugs. — ] (]) 01:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I echo all that's been said above. I don't know you, but we share a common grief and it's of the kind that only varies in detail, not in the depth and profundity of the pain. You and Isaac look happy in that picture, and it's clear from your words that you had a happy life with him. Remember that happiness, when you can; remember what he would have wanted for you, and the things you wanted for each other; and embrace that shared vision as a tribute to him. (And now -I'm- crying, too.) Take care of yourself, as Keeper said, no matter how little importance the mundane things seem to have right now--and cherish your friends, and your family if you've got one, and all the people who love you. People do care about your loss--yes, even people who are just words on a screen, names on a website. We are here for us if you need us. You have my good thoughts...] 02:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Please accept my deepest condolences. And please remember the words of someone who had no hatred for any man: "Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall be comforted." ] (]) 02:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Thank you is insufficient== | |||
| The beautiful words I have received here have given me so much comfort, you cannot imagine. I am still in a shock stand, but I am able to take in what you all have said. Later, when there is time, I will thank everybody individually. I am sometimes cynical about the Project, but this experience has shown me that through our collaborative working, we have built a bond, and are a sort of family. Thank you for being my internet family. It means more to me than you will ever know. The funeral is on Thursday, and I am sure that it will be beautiful. I love you all for being there for me in this impossible time. ] (]) 05:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Dear Jeff, == | |||
| ] ] 14:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC) ]] | |||
| This is not time to trouble yourself over that tempest in a teapot. All is well here, and all will be well. Take care of yourself at this special time. ] (]) 17:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Deepest condolences == | |||
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| "A brief candle; both ends burning <br> | |||
| An endless mile; a bus wheel turning <br> | |||
| A friend to share the lonesome times <br> | |||
| A handshake and a sip of wine <br> | |||
| So say it loud and let it ring <br> | |||
| We are all a part of everything <br> | |||
| The future, present and the past..." <br> | |||
| - ] | |||
| ]] 15:51, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Jeff, why don't you post that video here. I saw it and it's so very very moving. It shows your love for Isaäc in a transcendent way. Music has always connected with the heart more than the mind. Share the love you have for your husband and let people grieve with you. You will always have an Isaäc shaped hole in your heart but sharing that loss will make it easier to bear. I think everyone would be honored to see the pictures. Don't feel like you are imposing. — With love, ] (]) 23:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I as well offer my deepest sympathies for your loss. We have not alays seen eye to eye, but that's just discussion. Please take care of yourself and come back when and if your feel like it. - ] ] 02:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == The Best... == | |||
| == Message from Jeff's mom == | |||
| I don't know you, but I saw your post on ]'s talk page and followed it here. While I know that every situation is different and I cannot begin to imagine what you're feeling, I wanted to share something that comforted me at this time a few years ago. | |||
| ''A golden heart stopped beating,<br /> | |||
| Hard working hands to rest.<br /> | |||
| God broke our hearts<br /> | |||
| to prove to us,<br /> | |||
| He only takes the best.''<br /> | |||
| I know that this page is protected, but I'd like to draw everyones attention to a message from Jeff's mom that I've just posted on her behalf. You can view it ]. Regards, ''']<sup>See ] or ]</sup>''' 23:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
| Take the time you need to grieve and know you'll always carry Isaac in your heart and memory. Do what he'd want you to do. Feel free to drop me a note if there's anything at all I can do for you. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 01:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 16:56, 18 October 2023
This is the user talk page of an editor who has died. His family has requested that the page be preserved, which it is through the edit history. Editors wishing to leave memorial comments should do so here.
There will be little rubs and disappointments everywhere, and we are all apt to expect too much; but then, if one scheme of happiness fails, human nature turns to another; if the first calculation is wrong, we make a second better: we find comfort somewhere. Jane Austen, Mansfield Park
Message from Jeff's mom
I know that this page is protected, but I'd like to draw everyones attention to a message from Jeff's mom that I've just posted on her behalf. You can view it here. Regards, Ryan Postlethwaite 23:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)