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Turkish sources

Hi, do you have Turkish sources about the battle of John Hunyadi and Şehabeddin in 1442? OrionNimrod (talk) 10:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, there is a war in M. Tayyip Gökbilgin's book Murad II. I can help you open the page. Keremmaarda (talk) 11:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Could you send me the link? OrionNimrod (talk) 12:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

https://veyseldikme.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ii-murad.pdf page=5

I only have this source in PDF form, but I can give the (unseen) source from M. Tayyip Gökbilgin's book Murad II. Keremmaarda (talk) 12:36, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! OrionNimrod (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I see only 1 sentences about this: "Ertesi yılın Eylül ayında Mezid Bey'in intikamını almak isteyen Şehabeddin Paşa da Vazag Muharebesi'nde aynı akıbete uğrayıp yenildi ve büyük kayıplar vererek geri çekilmek zorunda kaldı." Do you have sources about more description of this battle? OrionNimrod (talk) 14:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

No in PDF, but I'll try to find it. Keremmaarda (talk) 15:23, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I will edit and add the resources I find here.

https://islamansiklopedisi.org.tr/murad-ii

Serbian margrave Mezid Bey was ambushed. The following year, Şehabeddin Pasha's army was raided and dispersed in Upper Yalomitza. These defeats aroused the enthusiasm in the Christian world to launch a Crusade against the Turks. Yanko's victory was celebrated with a great ceremony in Venice (Jorga, I, 428). Byzantium, under Ottoman pressure, also had new hopes. Already in 1437, the emperor took all the high Orthodox priests with him and went to Europe to discuss the union with the Catholic church, signed the church union at the Council of Florence, and planned to organize a Crusade.

https://asosjournal.com/?mod=tammetin&makaleadi=&makaleurl=1594882604_1217%20muhittin%20kapan%C5%9Fahin.pdf&key=33715 Page=6

To avenge this defeat, the Ottoman Empire invaded Rumelia in September of the same year. under the command of beylerbeyi Kula Şahin, also known as Hadım Şahabeddin Pasha42 Rumelia and Anatolia 43 He was very confident in his power and Kula Şahin Pasha, who acted recklessly because of this, was attacked by Jan Hunyad in the Vazağ region. suffered a defeat. Fifteen of the valuable and experienced commanders lost their lives in this war. 44 These two victories of Jan Hunyad led to the establishment of a Crusade against the Turks. and the management of the expedition was given to the Polish and Hungarian King Vladislas. Keremmaarda (talk) 15:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! OrionNimrod (talk) 16:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Probably Vazag means Vaskapu because this is the name of Hungarian in that battle. Vaskapu means literally "Iron Gate". OrionNimrod (talk) 16:10, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't matter, Mr. OrionNimrod. Are you going to open a page about the war? Keremmaarda (talk) 16:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150432870687580191/1153433585165025491/Halil_InalckKurulus_Donemi_Osmanl_Sultanlar.pdf

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Hungarian Counterattacks, izadi (1443) Belgrade failure II. A turning point for Murad It happened. İsa Bey was removed from Bosnia. Hungarians, Yanko (Hunyadi Yanoş) against the Ottoman forces They carried out a successful operation (1441). Serbian margrave Me- Zid Bey was ambushed. The following year, Şehabeddin Pasha His army was raided and dispersed at Upper Yalomitza. This The defeats sparked a crusade against the Turks in the Christian world. It aroused the enthusiasm to open the ferry. Yanko's victory in Venice was celebrated with a great ceremony. 1 5 Under Ottoman oppression Byzantium also had new hopes. Already in 1437 the emperor Catholicism, taking with him all the high Orthodox priests He went to Europe to discuss the union with his church, He signed the church union at the Council of Florence and was a Crusader. He planned to organize an expedition (1439). The Ottomans greeted the Council of Florence with concern, As soon as the emperor returned to Istanbul II. Murad's ambassadors He sent and asked for assurance. 16 In 1442, the emperor's delegation His ambassador, Janaki Torzello, visited the palaces of Italy and Hungary. Derek made great efforts to implement the Crusader plan as soon as possible. The load operated. With Byzantine Emperor Karamanoğlu He was also in contact. Karama-, who received the news of the defeat in Transylvania noğlu İbrahim Bey marched on Akşehir and Beyşehir (1443). II. Murad immediately took action with his Kapıkulu soldiers. ti. On the other hand, prince Alaeddin with his Amasya forces walked. This time it's the Ottomans. Including Konya and Larende, They plundered and destroyed Karamanili; but in Rumili Considering the situation II. Murad signed peace and He returned to Edirne.

Keremmaarda (talk) 21:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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You're right, I'm sorry, I'll be careful. Keremmaarda (talk) 06:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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Ok thank you Keremmaarda (talk) 23:41, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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DRV sources

Hi, below are the sources from the now-deleted draft. As per Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2023 October 10, consensus is that the article and therefore the draft was a recreation and therefore not acceptable. There were concerns around the veracity of the sourcing, and a suggestion that a different focus on the article may be suitable. The references are below for your potential future use as you deem appropriate. Regards, Daniel (talk) 04:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Schmitt, Oliver Jens. DİE ALBANER (in German). p. 98.

Akyol, İbrahim; Eliaçık, Muhittin. FATİH SULTAN MEHMED DÖNEMİ KÜLTÜR VE EDEBİYAT (PDF) (in Turkish). p. 41.

Sacket, Wendy. CHORNOLOGY OF EUROPEAN HİSTORY. p. 443.

Cezar, Mustafa. MUFASSAL OSMANLI TARİHİ. p. 489.

"Fatih Sultan Mehmed'in Arnavutluk Seferleri".

Tulum, Mertol. FETİH BABAS. pp. 181–182.

Tansel, Selahattin. Osmanlı Kaynaklarına Göre Fatih Sultan Mehmed'in Askerî Faaliyetleri (PDF) (in Turkish). pp. 139–140.

"İSKENDER BEY İSYANI" (in Turkish). pp. 80–81.

Frasheri, Kristo. THE HISTORY OF ALBANIA. p. 85.

İmber, Colin. THE OTTOMAN EMPİRE 1300-1481. p. 197. Daniel (talk) 04:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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