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Japan

previous FAC

After User:John Smith's asked me to reconsider the old nom, I've decided I might have been a bit too hasty in removing it, so I'm going to give it a fresh nom. Raul654 19:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• Support as before Fg2 20:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Support as before. I made the self-nomination last time. John Smith's 21:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Support great article, but you are too ambitious by only nominating it on the FAC. The GA people would perfectly give help... igordebraga ≠ 22:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose Numerous unsourced paragraphs. Seven in the history section alone.-- Zleitzen 22:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Zleitzen, during the previous FAC lack of citations was raised. The person that complained, SandyGeorgia, tagged everything she felt needed a citation. Furthermore there have been no complaints about this. So please add some citation tags where you think they are needed - thanks. John Smith's 22:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

There are 13 paragraphs in the history section, seven of them go without citations. Going down the page, there are many more uncited paragraphs. To add citation tags to every piece of information that goes unsourced in these paragraphs would make a mess of the page. Here are examples of unsourced details from each section to give you an idea;

• "The Nara period of the eighth century marked the first emergence of a strong central Japanese state, centered around an imperial court in the city of Heijō-kyō, or modern day Nara."
• "There is universal suffrage for adults over 20 years of age, with a secret ballot for all elective offices."
• "Japan has also made headway into aerospace research and space exploration."
• "The Ryūkyūan languages, also part of the Japonic language family to which Japanese belongs, are spoken in Okinawa, but few children learn these languages."
• "Post-war Japan has been heavily influenced by American pop music, which has led to the evolution of popular band music called J-Pop. Modern Japanese music generally uses Western instruments, scales and style."
• "Golf is popular in Japan, as is auto racing, the Super GT sports car series and Formula Nippon formula racing."

-- Zleitzen 23:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Citations have been added since my concerns above. But there is still much uncited material on the page. Near the top of the history section it reads: "Despite early resistance, Buddhism was promoted by the ruling class and eventually gained growing acceptance since the Asuka period." Without citation. Rather than me chase around picking individual examples, it might be better to give you some time to ensure that every claim is attributed to a source from "Unlike previous recovery trends, domestic consumption has been the dominant factor of growth." to "The fusion of traditional woodblock printing and Western art led to the creation of manga, a typically Japanese comic book format that is now popular within and outside Japan." -- Zleitzen 01:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Support a superb article that deeply discusses all aspects of the country. Its a useful resource for all readers and it deserves to be recognized.Yaanch 23:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Support as before. Lovely nice big article. BilabialBoxing 00:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose as before. Problems with WP:MOS, problems with lengths of certain sections, etc.
• Support as before. --WoodElf 06:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Support as before. --Endroit 06:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I'm wondering why people are so ready to support this FAC. There are clear WP:MOS problems. One good example is the recurring blank space in the History section, something I've fixed myself several times. It comes back almost every other day, and at the time of my comment here, it has re-appeared.