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I apologize to those whom I have insulted or denigrated on this page. Unless this comment violates some policy, I will leave it here as a reminder to myself not to engage in such behavior again. -- ] (]) 23:14, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
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Your edits have the trademark of ]. ] 07:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
:Since I am not Arminius and had never heard of Arminius, you are clearly '''wrong''' that my edits have the trademark of Arminius. A halfway intelligent and decent human being might have said that ''some'' of my edits ''seem'' to resemble those of Arminius, and politely asked if I am Arminius, instead of just blabbling out an assertion. -- ] 22:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
==News-Press Controversy==
I entered section headings in the ] article. ] 02:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


I have edited this section to be less triggering (hopefully). However, for anyone who previously posted here accusing me of lying, you are banned from this page. Please review ] . And if you have an argument with such a ban, please look over this precedent:
== ANI ==
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== please don't insult me elsewhere ==
Please read and kindly fulfill my request.—] (]) 01:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
For example: "I am not sure this user is playing with the same deck of cards. Calm, reasoned, dispassionate pleas for civillity have not worked, and nor has detailed reasoning citing ]s" -- none of that is true, and is itself a violation of ]s. -- ] (]) 05:36, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
:Requests for me to change how I live my life are not welcome. -- ] 03:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


== reversions of article talk page comments are against the rules ==
Also, please stop factoring your replies to interpose into other threads. Keep the conversation flowing properly. Thank you. Please go back and properly refactor your inserted comments. ] 02:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:I didn't interpose into other threads, I merely added my responses above other responses to the same comments. If that's against policy, I'm not aware of it. -- ] 03:50, 17 March 2007 (UTC) but some people think the rules don't apply to them. Those people are hereby banned from this page. -- ] (]) 21:39, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


== Thanks ==
I suggest you take a break from your editting of Misplaced Pages. All I did was kindly ask that you , . Any further disruption from this account will result in a block from editting.—] (]) 03:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


I missed the damned date. Undeleted. It's at AN, AARV, the user's talk page, where else? Nice thing to wake up to! ] ] 09:04, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not interested in your suggestions about how I live my life, nor your mischaracterizations of exacerbation -- assume good faith. And your threat is an abuse of power (apparently, from your talk page, one of many), as is your vandalism of this page when you removed my own contributions. -- ] 04:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::How am I suggesting that I change how you live your life? I was asking you to . (and as a note, I replaced '''everything''' that was on this page prior to my edits that were removed through my rollback and your removals of ThuranX's comments).—] (]) 04:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


:Your talk page. Best wishes. ] (]) 09:05, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Please do not modify the archived thread on ANI. The edits occurred at roughly the same time so there is no need to remove anything. Thanks, ] 03:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:OS mailing list? I posted there this, among other things. "My take is that if it had been current it would be suppressible, but 2011? No. It's clearly not someone picking this up from the news, creating an account and a userpage for fun. Was it actually Santos? Who knows." ] ] 09:10, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
==Moving Denial of the Armenian Genocide==
I have suggested that ] should be moved to ]. I assume that you would be interested in the debate and would like to submit your opinion on the proposal. See: {{la|Denial of the Armenian Genocide}}--] ] 16:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


== Thanks Misplaced Pages for giving me access to JSTOR ==
Listen, I would appreciate if you didn't refer to my comments like "Misplaced Pages would be a much better place if you all left your nationalism and ideologies at home" - you really don't know what I think or anything. It is the first time that I see you comment on that page, so I am assuming that you kinda headdived in there, but my points and comments are much more subtle than that - I was referring to a consistent push by certain users to label anyone who wonders if the events could have the "genocide" label (rather than something else) as a vulgar Neo-Nazi. Re-read my post, and my point about the latest ICJ case concerning Bosnia v. Serbia and the room needed for research free of political correctness. There are users in that page who consistently try to shut up every user who comes wondering about the genocidal nature of events by treating them like creationists, Neo-Nazis etc. Holocaust deniers deny outright that ''any'' Jews died, claiming that it is all one big conspiracy, however in this case, the dispute centers on the genocidal nature of events: not on weird alien conspiracy theories. Anyways, just wanted to let you know that things are more complicated than they seem, that's all. Cheers! ] 04:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


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:ok, it was just a note.. I didn't ask you to not make your comment stand :) cheers ] 05:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


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::They should, so should everyone who treats that talk page like a forum.. However, what I meant was the attitude of some "during discussions about the article" - recent debates about two sections in the article easily degenerated into such a debate even though it started as a "article-only" discussion. However, the improvements that an editor can bring to an article is inevitably influenced by his/her opinions, therefore it is also inevitable that debate degenerates constantly since editors differ greatly in their views as to ''how the article can be improved''. I rarely comment on that talk page or the article, one of the reasons being that specific problem. You cannot isolate the disputes so easily by saying "people should edit and not wonder" - it is not about the Pythagoras' theorem. That's all. I agree that people shouldn't use it a as a forum, I have left tons of messages in that talk page to that effect, removed many post personally for that reason, but it never stops!! Where do you draw the line finally? ] 06:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
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:::Hmm, I suppose you are right. I had never studied holocaust denial that much, and as far as I knew it had always been about people who say "it is all one big alien scam and global conspiracy, and that Jews were secretly evacuated" :) I didn't mean any offense by re-writing it above, I hadn't understood your original response to begin with - I wasn't trying to one-up you. Anyways, my only point was that it is not right to put events into the same category - when you categorize something, the notion starts to become degenerated. What I am saying is that the word "genocide" is not a one-size-fits-all word in the sense that events carry different characteristics. I would also oppose putting the Holocaust into the same category as what is happening in Darfour - they are all different - thus the tyranny of the words: people get too fixated upon words and forget the real underlying human social needs/suffering/pain/movements. Anyways... ] 06:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


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I noticed your comments on the Sith page, and I agree with them. At midnight CST, I am going to begin to remove all information that isn't cited. Most will probably be moved to the discussion page, as I am not sure that the info cannot be cited. Wanna help? - ] ] 19:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
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I apologize to those whom I have insulted or denigrated on this page. Unless this comment violates some policy, I will leave it here as a reminder to myself not to engage in such behavior again. -- Jibal (talk) 23:14, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

please do not post repeated messages here

I have received email notifications about things that I have already seen, which is annoying, but I don't want to turn off notifications. So please do not post material that you have already posted; and posting such material and then deleting it is a double whammy. There is no acceptable excuse, including a belief that I accidentally removed the content, or that the content was positive and offered in good faith. And I'm not interested in being lectured about how I should maintain this page.

Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:User_pages#Removal_of_comments,_notices,_and_warnings and https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Don%27t_restore_removed_comments

I have edited this section to be less triggering (hopefully). However, for anyone who previously posted here accusing me of lying, you are banned from this page. Please review WP:NPA . And if you have an argument with such a ban, please look over this precedent: -- Jibal (talk) 02:33, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

please don't insult me elsewhere

For example: "I am not sure this user is playing with the same deck of cards. Calm, reasoned, dispassionate pleas for civillity have not worked, and nor has detailed reasoning citing WP:PAGs" -- none of that is true, and is itself a violation of WP:PAGs. -- Jibal (talk) 05:36, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

reversions of article talk page comments are against the rules

but some people think the rules don't apply to them. Those people are hereby banned from this page. -- Jibal (talk) 21:39, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

I missed the damned date. Undeleted. It's at AN, AARV, the user's talk page, where else? Nice thing to wake up to! Doug Weller talk 09:04, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Your talk page. Best wishes. Jibal (talk) 09:05, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
OS mailing list? I posted there this, among other things. "My take is that if it had been current it would be suppressible, but 2011? No. It's clearly not someone picking this up from the news, creating an account and a userpage for fun. Was it actually Santos? Who knows." Doug Weller talk 09:10, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

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