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Edgbaston

Noticed that you subdivided some sections on the Egdbaston page. I don't have any problems with this at all, I merged them yesterday as each section was ridiculously short by itself and looked rubbish. However I have expanded them so it doesn't look so bad now. The question I have is whether or not I should have merged them to begin with. Was it out of personal preference that you seperated them or a Misplaced Pages regulation? Thanks in advance for your answer! Cls14 11:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

There are no "regualations" ;-) I made the changes for stylistic reasons, and to facilitate links, from other web pages, to, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/Edgbaston#Education Andy Mabbett 11:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for that. Cls14 12:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

General Comment

Dear Andy

You have edited several pages of interest to me recently. With the exception of the issue of categorization on which I believe you won the day on the grounds of concensus your edits are helpful and improve the articles concerned. It is possible that I may have arrived at my first opinion of you rather hastily. Keep at it.

Yours Faithfully Martin Cordon 17:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

George Edward Lodge

I don't understand the footnote (1) on George Edward Lodge, referring to the seventh son of a seventh son. The footnote just says Savory, and does not look like a reference. Can you please explain, or fix the reference?--Cotinis 23:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

It refer to the work by Savory, cited earlier. Perhaps it should say "Savory, op. cit." ? Andy Mabbett 23:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see it now. For this short an article, I'm not sure footnotes really add that much--a reference section, I feel, suffices. However, I really do not understand Misplaced Pages reference conventions. When I've used specific references in the text, I've just used Harvard references (Jones et al. 1998, etc.), but that's because I can't understand the templates. No big deal at any rate. Cotinis 05:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Midland Metro Route Map template

Nice! I like it a lot.

How about this for a very early draft of the "fancy template" I was talking about on Template:West Midlands railway stations? Fingerpuppet 18:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks good; what about Sandwell & Dudley and Show Hill/ Moor Street in the "main line" bit, though? Andy Mabbett 19:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've moved those mentioned from the "other" section into the "main line" section - though I'm not convinced by Snow Hill or (especially) Moor Street being thought of as "main line" in the same way as the others! Fingerpuppet 17:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Script help needed, please

How do I use User:Quarl/monobook.js ?

hi. You can find your own monobook at Special:Mypage/monobook.js. Just paste the content of the other monobook into your page and clear your browser cache, and that should do it! I hope that helps! -- lucasbfr 21:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but that doesn't seem to work, and doesn't look right. Andy Mabbett 22:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Go to User:Pigsonthewing/monobook.js, copy the text from Quarl's monobook to your monobook. And, empty your cache from your browser. Real96 23:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I did, See link, above. Andy Mabbett 23:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you are having any trouble installing scripts, go to installing scripts. Real96 23:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding to top or second of an also see list is poor form

Adding a link to your article at the top or second position of an also see, especially when there is a weak link, is poor form. Please place your additions at the end of the list next time, or on the talk page. - Davandron | Talk 17:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Andy Mabbett 17:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry; my mistake. We get lots of little brand-new articles who add their name in the top or second place position of Also See to boost visibility for their article. Thanks for restoring it to alphabetical. - Davandron | Talk 14:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

hCard in people infoboxes

How would adding this information to infoboxes be helpful? The only fields that I see applying are fn, bday, and url. --PhantomS 19:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It would make them (more) parsable, indexable and searchable by machines. You may be right about three fields (actually, pictures, too), but that's still useful. Can you assist? Andy Mabbett 19:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

For machine parsing, we already have {{Persondata}}. I may assist if I can find "a best practices approach that gives at least as much as that template could. --PhantomS 19:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "a best practices approach", how can I help? I'm not sure how many user agents can access persondata, but uFs are beginning well established (see the Operator extension for Firefox, which is likely to be incorporated into the next build); and anything that adds semantic meaning (especially with relatively minimal effort or overhead) has to be good! Incidentally there are also proposals for adding 'Date of Death' to hCard. We also have the "nickname" attribute for Cary Grant/ Archibald Leach types; and a "note" field. Incidentally, hCard (and other microformats) are supposed, unlike persondata, to be for data visible on the page. Andy Mabbett 19:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

IMO, it needs birth name and death date attributes to be that useful. Birth and death places would also be beneficial. As for Cary Grant, the article is Cary Grant, while the birth name is Archibald Leach. Birth name is not always filled in because it doesn't always change for actors.--PhantomS

Looking at person data, if there was an alternative names attribute, that part might work. However, I don't see any field for death. --PhantomS 19:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're getting at here; yes, there are some fields in persondata not in hCard; but vice versa also. It doesn't matter whether the article is called CG or AL; I was merely pointing out that there are fields for both in hCard. As I said, there are *proposals* to add date-of-death. Andy Mabbett 20:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

After thinking it over, I was actually just about to remove my two previous posts and simply state that it needs to have a death date property to be useful. If you could give me the markup to use, including the proposed death date markup, I'll see what I can do with it. --PhantomS 20:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

(Outdent)

Thank you. The markup is listed at . Since the infobox is resented as a table, it makes sense to mark up

.horizontal
		{
	  	padding: 0;
		margin-top: 0;
		margin-left: -1.5em;
		margin-bottom: 0.5em;
		margin-right: 0;
		}
.horizontal li 
		{ 
	  	display: inline;
		font-size: 90%;
		line-height: 1.5;
		border-left: 0.1ex solid;
		padding-left: 0.5em;
		padding-right: 0.5em;
		}
.horizontal li:first-child
		{
		border-left: none;
		padding-left: 0;
		}

class="bday"

25 December 1965

<img class="photo">

Andy Mabbett