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I wonder if you are planning to expand the various ''Fragaria'' spp. articles? If not, then since each article is short and contains much the same information as the others, maybe they could be merged into a section of the ] article? ] 05:10:36, 2005-08-19 (UTC)
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Yes, I am planning to expand the articles. If you'll notice, a few have already been expanded, and I deleted links to 5 which I have decided not to do. I have also just added more infor to the tanonomy section of the main Strawberry article] 06:11, 19 August 2005 (UTC)


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<sup>1</sup>The easternmost/westernmost points of the U.S. throughout the world are disputed.
What is most eastern or western depends on one's point of view about what east and west really mean.


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If one takes the view that the easternmost place is where the day first begins, and the westernmost is where the day last ends, then the International Date Line is the defining limit for what is most eastern or western. In a new year, the earliest US sunrise takes place on Wake Island. Less than an hour ealier, the sun also rose over Attu Island, Alaska but for December 31.


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On the other hand, if one defines what is most eastern and most western by which direction he or she must travel to reach a given point over the shortest distance, then Udall Point, Virgin Islands and Point Udall, Guam are the easternmost and westernmost points, respectively. While the world is round, and any point can be reached by traveling either east or west, it is always more direct to head east to reach Udall Point, VI when traveling from any other spot in the U.S. Likewise, there is not a single point in the United States from which heading east is a shorter route to Point Udall, Guam than heading west would be, even accounting for circumpolar routes. This holds true because all U.S. territory is spread across less than 180 degrees of longitude.
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It is inappropriate to remove well referenced information from an article. While the information could be organized differently it is significant information which belongs in the article. After all the information comes from reports of the Department of Defense. ] 03:20, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
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I'm not defending West Point or policing relevant content. I could similarly place well referenced information about the varieties of snack food most consumed on campus in 1955, broken down by percentage, and it too would be way out of place. The National Enquirer and Ken Starr might be interested and feel that it appropriate to report what percentage of people at an institution had anal sex in a certain year. Within the context of an article about a 200 year institution which has had dozens of scandals which dwarf your reference, your information is simply out of place.
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:There was no directive by Congress to the Department of defense to survey snack food nor would a report on snack food find prominent coverage in the media. See and ] 11:28, August 31, 2005 (UTC)


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I see that you did edit the article more or less the same way I did with the exception of the links in this language, "Following the ] and due to concern with ]" These probably should remain in the article as the Task Force was created due to the publicity which resulted from the Air Force scandal and it is the intention of the DoD to apply the new policies military-wide. ] 11:35, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
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==Fragaria × Potentilla hybrids==
Hi Dr U - query: shouldn't the two named cultivars have registered trade marks (R in a ring, I don't know how to type it!) rather than copyright symbols? - Thanks, ] 22:02, 21 September 2005 (UTC)


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Actually, although I left it as is in my last edit of that page, I don't think Lipstick is a registered trademark, at least not in the United States. Pink Panda may be. Glad to see the article there...I would be interested in discussing strawberry breeding with you at some point. ] 06:08, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
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Appreciate your great updates to history topics! And yay the Army. All my military friends--all two of them--are Army. :) Cheers. ] 22:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


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OK -- I'll bite. "Political" in ], the ] and Utah Territory was intimately tied to religion. We find descendents of all these folks in the upper councils of the LDS church (and RLDS for a couple of generations) during the first 50 - 60 years after Joseph's Smith's death, and serving in Utah territorial positions as well. Church responsibility led to being a "judge in Israel" and hence to political activity. Many of these families are still prominent socially, politically and religiously, but prominence is still centered around the hub of the LDS Church. Many modern Mormons feel that political activity and public service can be a religious duty. But the title of the article implies a different viewpoint -- a look at a family tree or generational history. So, can you spell out your central concept about the article and/or where the article is going? It would be good to define things in the first paragraph. Best wishes. ] 03:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)


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::See my recent draft of an article on Utah state senator ]. She's only related to the Cannon's on the distaff side, but might be worth a mention. Your comments welcome there too. ] 04:57, 29 October 2005 (UTC)


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I guess we are both editing the same article right now. I saw in your edit that you mentioned a nuclear reactor at USMA. Are you referring to a small, research reactor on campus? Or are you referring to the nearby ]? When I Google , I get no relevant hits --] 06:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
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Hilarious! I tweaked the style a bit and added it to the unusual articles page. I might even put that on the "Did You Know?" section of the main page! Thanks for the chuckle just before bed. - ] 07:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)


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I am stunned and hugely flattered to find the article about the 1/1000 ancestry rule, citing me as the originator. I had no idea it would be useful to others.
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Though the rule has the effect of definining the boundaries of political families, I was more concerned at the time with what relations were reasonable to list in a biographical entry. Those links (from entry to entry for related individuals) preceded the creation of the political family pages.


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I came up with the rule because I was getting contributions to Political Graveyard citing this or that individual as being the 8th or 12th cousin of some president. It was plain to me that such remote cousinships were not very meaningful, but I needed a neutral, mathematical way to draw the line.
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Previous to this, the limitation had been simply the length of the field for the relationship. I had room for "tenth cousin", but not enough for "first cousin four times removed", even though the latter is a much closer relationship. In tandem with the 1/1024 rule, I began storing the relationships as codes, which was both more efficient and allowed me to document and display more complex relations.


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The new version of the site, which I hope will be up soon, takes that a step further by enabling relations that involve intermediaries. For example, instead of "brother-in-law" or "uncle by marriage", the entry will be more like "married to Jane Doe (sister of Politician Doe)", at least where I have the names of those intermediaries. In some cases, the intermediaries are themselves politicians: for example, Hillary Clinton is the intermediary between Bill Clinton and Hugh Rodham.
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Best that we shouldn't bate Janes, as tempting as it is, and as guilty as I have been of it myself. If this is ever picked up for mediaton, or as I suspect arbitration down the line these teasings may come back to haunt us. --] 18:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


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Well, since its an encyclopedia, the descision to include things shouldn't be made on who said what to who. That being said, my 1st posting today might have been a bit over the top. You do have to get to know me though. Clearly my cow catapult comment was just humor, and not meant to offend or sway debate. ] 18:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
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For which I received the answer:
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, I doubt he has any intention of taking you up on your offer, he just doesn't want to look truculent to a potential mediator. I have come to the conclusion that James and I (at least) are heading to ArbCom as I have been at this of and on since Nov of last year with little or no progress. --] 20:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Depleted uranium dispute resolution ==

As agreed, I had the DU article unlocked and replaced it with the /basic verson with links to the Health effects and Gulf War syndrome pages, bringing this round to an end. I think the fact that we managed to hammer this out by ourselves is a feather in our caps and an example to all who are in conflicts on the 'pedia. I thank you all. --] 01:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== Cowbell! ==

Thank you very much for supporting the ]. However, I don't feel I can support your category, as it is not utterly necessary, and as the List has been nominated for deletion twice now, I am loath to do anything that would bring the exclusionists knocking back on the door. As it is, from the ] article anyone can reach the list. Since the cowbell is such an interesting and rare instrument in Western popular music, it is more likely that the link to the list from the main instrument article would be more helpful to those interested than a category linking all the songs on the list that have their own articles.
Better to put the list in a "see also" section than to add a category to every song's article. That's my opinion. But thank you again for supporting the List! --] 22:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


==]==
I noticed you created the ] article, and immediately blanked it. Did you want to have it speedily deleted? If so, you may want to put in the <nowiki>{{db|Page created by accident}}</nowiki> or a similar tag. If you're planning to expand it and didn't like that text, you may want to use <nowiki>{{inuse}}</nowiki>, which lets other users know more is coming in the immediate future. Please feel free to write a note on my ] if I can help with anything. --] 03:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

==DU==
I am at my wits end with James and the DU article. Suggestions would be nice because his behavior is leading me to beleive that arbitration might be the only avenue to deal with this. ] 19:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


*In response to your inquiry, I need to know more about what the dispute is about before I can do anything. I am completely unknowledgable in this area, and the "edit war" seems low key at this point for protection.--] 22:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on the situation...it appears you and TDC are dealing with one editor...before I can objectively intervene, summarize what the two sides of the story are for me.--] 22:27, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I will look at it agin later on tonight and see what I can do.--] 23:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

==Time for RfArb==
Time for RfArb

Since ] cannot have his way on ] he has decide to scrap the outcome of the mediation. , , , . I see little other option at this point. ] 19:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

:The dispute has not even entered mediation yet; if you or TDC wish to request a return to mediation, I will agree and cooperate. --'']'' 19:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

:: We are, to put it mildly, beyond that. ] 19:30, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

==Medical doctorate==

Dr U, you claim a medical doctorate, but this claim can not be verified. What is your name, and what are the names and titles of the people who signed your M.D.? --'']'' 19:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I have an MD, but as I am neither diagnosing nor treating anyone, my identity and credentials are my own damn business. ] 19:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

:I am not surprised that you refuse to reveal your identity, because if you did, your attempt at disclaiming diagnostic activities would not keep the gross scientific, medical, and ethical misconduct apparent in your edits from reflecting directly on you and potentially endangering your professional standing. If you can not own up to your credentials, then you have no business claiming the benefit of them. There is no way to distinguish you from a pretender, and the slant of your edits suggests worse. --'']'' 20:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I claim nothing. I only read the articles and cite the sources. I am not posting original research, and have never said my edits were more important than anyone elses because of my degree. Once again, AS I AM NOT DIAGNOSING OR TREATING ANYONE, MY IDENTITY IS MY OWN DAMN BUSINESS. You are committing libel, and I suggest you cease your personal attacks now. ] 20:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

: The RfArb is posted, please make a statement if you want. ] 20:24, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

: Hey, make a statement and provide links on the Rfarb. ] 20:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

For what reason do you claim that "Any connection between Gulf War Syndrome and depleted uranium exposure is purely speculative...." is not a diagnostic statment? --'']'' 21:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I didn't diagnose anybody with anything. If you are suggesting that such statements constitute a diagnosis, you are severely misinformed. If that was true, the YOU would be guilty of practicing medicine without a license. ] 22:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

:Are you willing to take personal responsibility for the statements made on the subject of the profession you claim, or will you continue to hide behind anonymity? What do you think would happen to a physician who went on TV and said that a known teratogen isn't toxic? --'']'' 22:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

James, should we ban the NEW ENGLAND JOURANAL OF MEDICINE, the source of that statement? I have never said that my statements carry any special weight because of my life experiences. I AM NOT DIAGNOSING ANYBODY WITH ANYTHING. I AM NOT DISPENSING MEDICAL ADVICE. I AM POSTING OTHER AUTHORS CONCLUSIONS. And most of all, I NEVER EVER EVER said DU was not toxic, so don't put words in my mouth.] 22:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

: The NEJM never said that DU wasn't toxic. If you think you can make general diagnostic statements, expressing your opinion of the medical condition of tens if not hundreds of thousands contrary to peer-reviewed research, and not run afoul of professional misconduct regulations, then I would like to know why. M.D.s are frequently charged with just such misconduct. It is no wonder that you refuse to associate your name with your edits. --'']'' 22:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I have warned you to discontinue your personal attacks. Yet you persist. The edit you point to clearly reflects a mass revert, and not an individual change by me. Even if I did make that change originally (which the history shows that I clearly did not), so freakin what? Making an opening paragraph NPOV and saying "uranium is not toxic" are two different things. ] 22:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

:Are you saying that you think my complaints about your edits reflecting misconduct are personal attacks? I disagree. I am complaining about what you have said, not who you are. --'']'' 23:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


] has been warned against personal attacks. Feel free to contact me if he persists, and I have your page watched as well. --] 13:37, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==Don't fall into his trap==
Doc, James is trying to provoke all of us by attacking our credentials. I suspect that he hopes to get us to make an actionable statement, or bias ArbCom. The best thing to do is not engage - he is going to be hoist on his own petard over the next few months and he is experienced enough around here to know it. Getting one or more of his enemies suspended or otherwise disciplined for coming on too strong is about the only thing that will delay the inevitable. Stay cool and we will put this nonsence to rest. --] 02:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

It good advice Doc, the merits of James' works will be decided in mediation, his conduct in arbitration. Like water off a duck's back. ] 05:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Your comments on arbitration ==
I understand your feelings about the personal attacks which you have suffered. If you are correct in your judgment, the issue will soon return before ArbCom (not that it has actually left ArbCom for the moment). If not, there will be better articles on these topics and a saner editing environment. If you wish to join in the mediation debate, you will find it at ]. ] ] 01:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Notice of joinder ==

I have joined you to our ]. --'']'' 18:16, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks... ==

... for the barnstar Doc, I hope I can live up to the accolade --] 23:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== UO3 (gas) ==

Sorry for interfering with U03! I will help when the dispute is over. I will try to follow the discussion, but I am away for a week.] 15:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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