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In bio's of politicians is it normal to refer to them by their given names? It reads as though it was written by one of her friends or admirers (and probably was). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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In bio's of politicians is it normal to refer to them by their given names? It reads as though it was written by one of her friends or admirers (and probably was). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Requested move== |
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a ]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a ]. No further edits should be made to this section. '' |
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The result of the move request was: page '''moved'''. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC) |
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] → {{no redirect|Virginia Bottomley}} – Recently moved to current title, but it seems to meet the exception in ] that she is best known by her personal name and received her peerage on retiring from politics. ] <small>(])</small> 11:40, 22 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:: Disagree. '''Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley''' is best compromise as her title is inherently linked to her political existence, unlike, say ] or ]. ] 12:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:::"Baroness Bottomley" is inaccurate as it's only part of her title. ] (]) 18:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC) |
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::::: Either way, as '''Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley''' or '''Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone''', whichever is more accurate. ] 18:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC) |
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::::::If a politician spent much of their career as a member of the House of Lords it is appropriate to have the peerage in the title, but Bottomley's notable political career was as a member of the Commons and she received the peerage on stepping down. This is consistent with the examples in ] of politicians who are not at their peerage titles (], ]). ] <small>(])</small> 09:54, 23 March 2014 (UTC) |
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::::: '''But''' it is a bit off-balanced to put Virginia Bottomley and/or other life peers, who don't happen to be former PMs, in the same category as actual (former) Prime Ministers (such as Thatcher and Eden). ] 17:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC) |
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::::::The exception is for "Peers who are very well known by their personal names and who only received a title after they retired", it is not exclusively for prime ministers. Bottomley was a cabinet minister and was highly notable under her personal name. ] <small>(])</small> 18:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:: You've convinced me. '''Support''' move to simply ]. ] 11:49, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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==Jeremy Hunt cousin rumour== |
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The claim that ] is a cousin seems false. Roland Charles Colin Hunt was the son of Colin and Dorothea Hunt, Sir ] was the son of John Montgomerie Hunt and Elizabeth Yates. Internet rumours claim Roland Charles Colin Hunt and Sir ] were brothers and that's why Virginia Bottomley and Jeremy Hunt must be cousins, but I see no evidence to back up this claim. ] (]) 02:52, 21 May 2016 (UTC) |
The anagram might not be the most important fact about her life, but it has been widely quoted and is one of the more interesting anagrams of celebrity names. Warofdreams 10:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
In bio's of politicians is it normal to refer to them by their given names? It reads as though it was written by one of her friends or admirers (and probably was). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.40.225 (talk) 13:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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