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			] Archived March 11, 2006.
	The fact that not everyone agrees with certain information does not invalidate that information. In addition, the cultural context added provides far more useful information about Big Spring, than census data, geographical coordinates and the fact that a 35 year old movie was filmed there.

			==Sidebar changes==
	Yes, Big Spring sucks, we get that. I've been to Big Spring too many freaking times on stupid high school functions to not get that. But, this article is bad. Incredibly. Needs major cleanup work.
			I updated the city council and added the population changes as reported in the 2020 Census, using the land area already in the sidebar. I dunno where to look to see if that's changed. ] (]) 02:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

			==Photo==
	== Culture and Economics (advert) ==
			Nice picture, Applejuicefool! That adds a lot to the article. <b>]]]</b> 03:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			: Thanks :) ] 03:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			: I will try to get a new photo uploaded soon. The "Old Settles Hotel" in the current one has now been lavishly refurbished and reopened and the pic could do with an update. There's construction on the Municipal Auditorium, so I may wait until that is complete, or just take from a different angle. ] (]) 02:07, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

			== Native Americans? ==
	The ] section reads like an advert. I was going to add the advert template, but I'm sure it will get reverted. I'll mention it here instead. Warning, hyperbole and adverts below...

			Noticed just now the discrepancy between Shawnee in the intro and Pawnee in my history addition. I got Pawnee from the Handbook of Texas Online. I did a quick web search on Shawnee and Big Spring, and sure enough, the Big Spring City WP says Shawnee. I went back and double checked the HTO, and it indeed says Pawnee. Misplaced Pages shows little maps of areas where each nation was located; neither is right on top of Big Spring (which the Comanche are) but the Pawnee looks closer (Shawnee are up near New England area). Not sure what to do about this, ATM. Any ideas? ] 03:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:''The people are the friendliest you'll meet! And if you like barbecue and Tex-Mex food Big Spring has some outstanding restaurants. Brenda’s Barbecue is highly recommended, although residents of Big Spring are quite opinionated when it comes to a discussion of barbecue or Tex-Mex food. There is one truly amazing display of Christmas lights at the Partee residence. The "Live Drive Through Nativity" is one of a kind. Housing costs are unbelievably inexpensive and many people have adapted to the arid climate by xeriscaping their lawns.''
			:The HTO is usually right...let me go get my texas history books and check. <small>]]] \| ]</small> 03:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:I will write an email to the city to see what the source of their info is. ] 03:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			::Where's this map on wiki? ] 03:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::The maps are on the articles for the various Indian tribes. Do a search on the name of the tribe. ] 03:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:DOH! The HTO Big Spring article says Shawnee! The HTO Howard County article says Pawnee! ] 03:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:: I wondered about that too, but the ] article does mention this: ''Several hundred Missouri Shawnee left the United States in 1815 together with some Delaware people and settled in Texas, which was at that time controlled by Spain. This tribe became known as the Absentee Shawnee; they were once again expelled in 1839 after Texas had gained its indepedence three years earlier. '' I've been unable to find any mention of where in Texas they lived before going back to Oklahoma. <b>]]]</b> 03:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::I'm thinking the Absentee Shawnees are probably closest to the truth. I found a similar article on http://www.tolatsga.org/shaw.html - dunno the sources for that article, though. They say the Shawnee were welcomed by the Spanish to serve as kind of a buffer between Mexico and the U.S. ] 03:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::And yet HTO Howard County clearly mentions "Skidi Pawnees." Things that make you go hmmm... ]

			== Portuguese! ==
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			Excellent! We now have a Big Spring stub in Portuguese! ] 04:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	I would be good to have some photographs of Big Spring included in the article. <small>—''The preceding ] comment was added by'' ] (] • ]) {{{2\|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->

			==Jake Pickle==
	== Disputed Cultural And Economics Section==
			Why is there no mention of ] who grew up in this area? ]

			== Refinery Explosion ==
	There is an ongoing effort to sanitize and whitewash the Cultural and Economics discussion in this article. There have been repeated attempts to delete relevant and factual (if unpleasant) information about Big Spring in favor of a "Chamber of Commerce" POV that removes any and all references to the real challenges faced by the City of Big Spring, TX. <small>—''The preceding ] comment was added by'' ] (] • ]) {{{2\|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->
			Not sure hwo to add the information well, but this is the most up to date info out there:
	: Please cite specific passages that you believe violate ]. <b><font face="Arial" color="#D47C14">]</font><font color="#7D4C0C">]</font>]</b> 00:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
			http://news.google.com/news?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS249&q=Big+Spring+Texas+explosion&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn
	:: If you can't cite any specifics, the "disputed" tag will be removed. <b><font face="Arial" color="#D47C14">]</font><font color="#7D4C0C">]</font>]</b> 16:57, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
			] (]) 17:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
			:Been keeping my eye on it. It's the same information I have. Are you local? ] (]) 17:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
			::Nope, out of Ohio, just saw it on CNN. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			== Education links? ==
	==The return of the disputed tag==
	Once again, you'll need to cite exactly which section(s) you think violate ]. <b><font face="Arial" color="#D47C14">]</font><font color="#7D4C0C">]</font>]</b> 01:41, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

			Is there a reason to provide external links for Howard College and the school district, when these have Misplaced Pages articles? shouldn't we link to the Misplaced Pages articles, and then put the external links in those for people who want more info? ] (]) 14:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
	The continued deletionist bullying tactics by "ohnoitsjamie" to sanitize and whitewash information about a community I love dearly and that my family has called home for four generations is the reason for the disputed tag. {{unsigned\|65.122.236.133}}
			::Done ] (]) 14:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
	: How is removing sections that are clearly ] "deletionist bullying"? You still haven't cited any specific examples of problems with the current revision. If you cannot do so, the tag will be removed. <b><font face="Arial" color="#D47C14">]</font><font color="#7D4C0C">]</font>]</b> 02:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

			== Name ==

			Unbelievable, but there's a BIG SPRING and then there's a tiny little spot in Eastern TX called BIG SPRINGS. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:I suppose this is possible, but I cannot find any reference to "Big Springs, Texas" anywhere online, nor does it appear in Misplaced Pages's list of communities in Rusk County, nor on the map available on Rusk County's website. I am going to delete the sentence from the article referencing Big Springs; please post a link to a site where I can confirm the existence of Big Springs, and we can put it back. ] (]) 18:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

			:: The Rusk County town of Big Springs, Texas is located at 32.067386 N, 94.967440 W. It can be found by typing "Big Springs, Texas" into Google Earth. ] (]) 21:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

			== Photo? ==

			I can understand replacing my photo of the Municipal Auditorium with the Settles Hotel in the background as the title photo of the article. What I'm wondering is, why whoever did so could not at least include it in the gallery. There is no other photo in there showing the Municipal Auditorium... The Auditorium is still there... ] (]) 04:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
			:NVM I fixed it. ] (]) 04:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

			== Census Data needs Update ==

			The 2010 data should be added to or replace the 2000 info, shouldn't it? ] (]) 16:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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			== Sonny Dykes ==

			I removed my cousin Sonny Dykes from the list of notable people. He might have lived briefly there while his Dad, Spike Dykes, was an assistant coach at Big Spring High School, but he's not really "from" Big Spring. ] (]) 19:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

			:] has as a source for that claim. Do you have another source saying otherwise? ]<sub style="color:#b766d2;">⧼]·]⧽</sub> 19:32, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
			::It's possible that he was born in Big Spring while Spike was an assistant coach. He wouldn't have been there for long, though. However I suppose if he was born there, one could say he is "from" there. I concede the point. ] (]) 19:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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Sidebar changes

I updated the city council and added the population changes as reported in the 2020 Census, using the land area already in the sidebar. I dunno where to look to see if that's changed. Applejuicefool (talk) 02:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Photo

Nice picture, Applejuicefool! That adds a lot to the article. OhNo itsJamie 03:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :) Applejuicefool 03:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I will try to get a new photo uploaded soon. The "Old Settles Hotel" in the current one has now been lavishly refurbished and reopened and the pic could do with an update. There's construction on the Municipal Auditorium, so I may wait until that is complete, or just take from a different angle. Applejuicefool (talk) 02:07, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Native Americans?

Noticed just now the discrepancy between Shawnee in the intro and Pawnee in my history addition. I got Pawnee from the Handbook of Texas Online. I did a quick web search on Shawnee and Big Spring, and sure enough, the Big Spring City WP says Shawnee. I went back and double checked the HTO, and it indeed says Pawnee. Misplaced Pages shows little maps of areas where each nation was located; neither is right on top of Big Spring (which the Comanche are) but the Pawnee looks closer (Shawnee are up near New England area). Not sure what to do about this, ATM. Any ideas? Applejuicefool 03:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The HTO is usually right...let me go get my texas history books and check. psch e mp | talk 03:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I will write an email to the city to see what the source of their info is. Applejuicefool 03:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Where's this map on wiki? Joe I 03:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The maps are on the articles for the various Indian tribes. Do a search on the name of the tribe. Applejuicefool 03:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

DOH! The HTO Big Spring article says Shawnee! The HTO Howard County article says Pawnee! Applejuicefool 03:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I wondered about that too, but the Shawnee article does mention this: Several hundred Missouri Shawnee left the United States in 1815 together with some Delaware people and settled in Texas, which was at that time controlled by Spain. This tribe became known as the Absentee Shawnee; they were once again expelled in 1839 after Texas had gained its indepedence three years earlier. I've been unable to find any mention of where in Texas they lived before going back to Oklahoma. OhNo itsJamie 03:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking the Absentee Shawnees are probably closest to the truth. I found a similar article on http://www.tolatsga.org/shaw.html - dunno the sources for that article, though. They say the Shawnee were welcomed by the Spanish to serve as kind of a buffer between Mexico and the U.S. Applejuicefool 03:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

And yet HTO Howard County clearly mentions "Skidi Pawnees." Things that make you go hmmm... Applejuicefool

Portuguese!

Excellent! We now have a Big Spring stub in Portuguese! Applejuicefool 04:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Jake Pickle

Why is there no mention of Jake Pickle who grew up in this area? Varun Rajendran

Refinery Explosion

Not sure hwo to add the information well, but this is the most up to date info out there: http://news.google.com/news?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS249&q=Big+Spring+Texas+explosion&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn 65.185.147.196 (talk) 17:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Been keeping my eye on it. It's the same information I have. Are you local? Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. (talk) 17:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, out of Ohio, just saw it on CNN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepshep (talk • contribs) 18:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Education links?

Is there a reason to provide external links for Howard College and the school district, when these have Misplaced Pages articles? shouldn't we link to the Misplaced Pages articles, and then put the external links in those for people who want more info? Applejuicefool (talk) 14:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Done Applejuicefool (talk) 14:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Name

Unbelievable, but there's a BIG SPRING and then there's a tiny little spot in Eastern TX called BIG SPRINGS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.78.21 (talk) 00:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I suppose this is possible, but I cannot find any reference to "Big Springs, Texas" anywhere online, nor does it appear in Misplaced Pages's list of communities in Rusk County, nor on the map available on Rusk County's website. I am going to delete the sentence from the article referencing Big Springs; please post a link to a site where I can confirm the existence of Big Springs, and we can put it back. Applejuicefool (talk) 18:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The Rusk County town of Big Springs, Texas is located at 32.067386 N, 94.967440 W. It can be found by typing "Big Springs, Texas" into Google Earth. Leaflet (talk) 21:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Photo?

I can understand replacing my photo of the Municipal Auditorium with the Settles Hotel in the background as the title photo of the article. What I'm wondering is, why whoever did so could not at least include it in the gallery. There is no other photo in there showing the Municipal Auditorium... The Auditorium is still there... Applejuicefool (talk) 04:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

NVM I fixed it. Applejuicefool (talk) 04:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Census Data needs Update

The 2010 data should be added to or replace the 2000 info, shouldn't it? JeanEva Rose (talk) 16:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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Sonny Dykes

I removed my cousin Sonny Dykes from the list of notable people. He might have lived briefly there while his Dad, Spike Dykes, was an assistant coach at Big Spring High School, but he's not really "from" Big Spring. Jonl (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Sonny Dykes has this as a source for that claim. Do you have another source saying otherwise? ℰmi1y_⧼T·C⧽ 19:32, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

It's possible that he was born in Big Spring while Spike was an assistant coach. He wouldn't have been there for long, though. However I suppose if he was born there, one could say he is "from" there. I concede the point. Jonl (talk) 19:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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