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| == On the apparent article slant == | |||
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| It's pretty obvious why the CDCs "vaping" illness has been brought into this article. But you're gonna need a better rationale on not clarifying the distinction between e-cigarettes and THC vaping. And it's not overly becoming of an encyclopedia to assist in conflating the terminology. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:04, 10 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| <small><em>(Notice cross posted to: ], ], ], ], ], ] & ]. Please focus any discussion on the ]</em></small><p> | |||
| There is an ] pending related to this family of topics. ] (]) 11:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Now that the CDC has admitted that the primary cause aren't nicotine products, why is it all of a sudden not documentation-worthy? You can clearly come up with a neat euphemism to sugarcoat the CDCs "new findings" and "research breakthrough" - as if it wasn't clear 3 months / 30 deaths ago. | |||
| == Public Health England Report August 2015 == | |||
| == Germany == | |||
| I saw the PHE report today, don't have time to add it but it's relevant. ] (]) 10:26, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Link copied from the the main EC talk: E-cigs estimated to be "95% less harmful to health than tobacco products". Press release, with links to the review ] (]) 09:56, 19 August 2015 (UTC) - indeed this is important, but it's 111 pages! The key findings are at the start. ] (]) 12:23, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::There are a couple of recent round-ups of UK statements at and - both Guardian. ] (]) 14:24, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| What's the thought process behind featuring the 2013 article on cigalikes/ego-class devices? And why cherrypick concerns from halfway in, instead of the actual conclusions? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:15, 10 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| "In 2015 ] released a report stating that e-cigarettes are estimated to be 95 per cent safer than smoking.<ref name=McNeill2015>{{cite web|last1=McNeill|first1=A, SC|title=E - cigarettes: an evidence update A report commissioned by Public Health England|url=https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/454516/Ecigarettes_an_evidence_update_A_report_commissioned_by_Public_Health_England.pdf|website=www.gov.uk|publisher=Public Health England|accessdate=19 August 2015|location=UK|date=2015}}</ref>"{{reflist|close=1}} Editors can add it to this page. For the main page the current evidence has not changed among reviews. ] (]) 18:55, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == The source does verify this == | |||
| "Over the past few months, however, several reports have suggested that EC may pose more risks than previously thought." See page 76. The . ] (]) 21:23, 20 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Read on - the report then criticises them one by one. Certainly misleading just to add this. are you actually reading the report? ] (]) 21:37, 20 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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On the apparent article slant
It's pretty obvious why the CDCs "vaping" illness has been brought into this article. But you're gonna need a better rationale on not clarifying the distinction between e-cigarettes and THC vaping. And it's not overly becoming of an encyclopedia to assist in conflating the terminology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.52.13.108 (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Now that the CDC has admitted that the primary cause aren't nicotine products, why is it all of a sudden not documentation-worthy? You can clearly come up with a neat euphemism to sugarcoat the CDCs "new findings" and "research breakthrough" - as if it wasn't clear 3 months / 30 deaths ago.
Germany
What's the thought process behind featuring the 2013 article on cigalikes/ego-class devices? And why cherrypick concerns from halfway in, instead of the actual conclusions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.52.13.108 (talk) 22:15, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
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