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			== Requested move 8 February 2024 ==

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			The result of the move request was: '''not moved.''' Consensus is that the film is primary over the franchise. <small>(])</small> ] ] 07:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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			– I think it is better if the franchise page removed the "(franchise)" part. The of the TV show roughly the same as the first film. ] (]) 21:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' ] (]) 05:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)</small>
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			*'''Support''' - pretty common way to handle this, per ]. -- ] ] 08:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			*'''Oppose''' because ] gets more pageviews than ], and I see no evidence that the franchise has "greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term". The TV series article is ], which is plural and makes a difference, like all the varying topics called ] versus the TV series ]. With just two articles actually called "The Santa Clause", and nothing compelling to put the franchise over the original film, I don't see a need to change the status quo. ] (] \| ]) <sup>(])</sup> 13:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			*'''Oppose''' per Erik.— ''']'''<small> • '']'' •</small> 23:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			*'''Oppose''', per Erik and the most recognizable use of the term (the first film).<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
			*'''Oppose''' per Erik's statement. ] (] - ]) 00:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
			*'''Oppose''' A good rule of thumb when deciding whether to disambiguate the first film or the franchise is to consider which is more notable. In this case, it's the first film. ] (]) 01:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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On 8 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to The Santa Clause (film). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 8 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is that the film is primary over the franchise. (non-admin closure) Bait30 07:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

– I think it is better if the franchise page removed the "(franchise)" part. The of the TV show roughly the same as the first film. Ebbedlila (talk) 21:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Film has been notified of this discussion. – robertsky (talk) 05:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Disney has been notified of this discussion. – robertsky (talk) 05:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Support - pretty common way to handle this, per WP:NCFILM#Media franchise. -- Netoholic @ 08:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose because The Santa Clause gets more pageviews than The Santa Clause (franchise), and I see no evidence that the franchise has "greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term". The TV series article is The Santa Clauses, which is plural and makes a difference, like all the varying topics called The American versus the TV series The Americans. With just two articles actually called "The Santa Clause", and nothing compelling to put the franchise over the original film, I don't see a need to change the status quo. Erik (talk | contrib) 13:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per Erik.— Crumpled Fire • contribs • 23:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose, per Erik and the most recognizable use of the term (the first film).— Preceding unsigned comment added by Randy Kryn (talk • contribs)
Oppose per Erik's statement. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose A good rule of thumb when deciding whether to disambiguate the first film or the franchise is to consider which is more notable. In this case, it's the first film. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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