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| ⚫ | == Listing BSL-3 Sites == | ||
| Surely it is a fool's errand to include a list of BLS-3 labs, given that the start of this section indicates that there are over 1000 in the US alone. Why not make the list of facilities only those with BSL-4 facilities? This would be an actually possible task and would may resolve the factual inaccuracy complaint. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 2012-08-24T14:29:56</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
| I agree. This list would go on forever. BSL-3 labs are much too common to list. ] (]) 12:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
| {{agree|I agree too.}} After the COVID pandemic there was a boom of BLS-2 labs upgrading to BLS-3 in Brazil, it doesn't seem to make much sense to list it all. —] (]) 01:55, 12 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
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| == Plagiarism in the ] section == | |||
| After reading through this article, and then doing a little bit of Googling, I realized that there are 4 BSL-3 labs within walking distance of my current location, and at least 10 within 30 minutes. I am at UNC-CH. Anyways, point is, the number of BSL-3 labs has skyrocketed at a rate so high that it is no longer relevant to list BSL-3 labs in this article. Such a list would warrant a separate article possibly. ] (]) 21:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :What's usually done on Misplaced Pages is to start a new article titled ]. Change notability "Level 4 are accepted because of the nature of their work. If the facility is 3 or below, it must be linked to an article elaborating on it", by requiring an article be associated with the entry, it exposes it to ]. Does this help? ] (]) 04:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Well, you are in a university/agricultural town, but I see your point. If done, perhaps list these labs by their public/private funding?biopunk 09:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)biopunk | |||
| I have to agree here, most hospitals dealing with pathology have at least a small level 3 lab for things like TB, a list of all the level 3 labs in the world would run into the many thousands! A more interesting list would be of all the level 4 labs, as these are much rarer.] (]) 17:52, 13 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| This section had blatant plagiarism. We cannot directly copy/paste what a report says like that. We must, instead, summarize and paraphrase. And where we quote, we must use quotation marks, and restrict ourselves to as little direct quotation as possible. Misplaced Pages is not simply a repository for quotes about stuff. An encyclopedia is much more than that. The relevant guideline is ].--] <sup>(]</sup> <sup>])</sup> 21:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
| I would agree - remove the list of BSL 3 labs. I know of several in Montreal, Canada (my home) alone (I work in one). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I have removed those BL-3s with no claim to notability and/or no citation. I, personally, would go further as to remove all BL-3 labs; they are, as mentioned above, commonplace in virology labs. ]] 11:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == New(ish) source and more == | |||
| I disagree with the calls to remove all BSL-3 listings due to their supposed insignificance. To the Wiki-er from UNC-CH, that's near Research Triangle? Of course you'd have so many labs within walking distance. You also have many top notch research universities within walking distance. I second the follow-up post that says you are from a major research university hub and therefore your argument is too anecdotal. However, I would not be opposed to the idea of creating a separate article listing BOTH BSL-3 AND 4 labs in separate tables. | |||
| is the most recent source I found about the number of high-containment biological laboratories (roughly meaning BSL-3 and BSL-4). It looks reliable, but mostly based on older sources that this article is already using (guess it can still be useful for finding other sources or filling up the BSL-4 list). The sentence about the USA Today report seems a bit misleading (in 2015 it was well known that there were far more than 200 BSL-3 facilities, their locaton/identity is what wasn't public or easy to find; 's the original artice, which may be a better source than the current one; the sentence about the GAO report also uses the verb "identify", but that's a number likely closer to the actual total number and the report doesn't disclose their location; the above linked more recent source uses 1,643, that looks like 1,362 with DSAT + 281 with APHIS, it's based on a slightly newer, but not much different GAO report, probably a lower estimate, not sure if some laboratories figure in both counts). Not sure what to do with this, so I'll just drop the links and leave eventual edits to other editors. ] (]) 21:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Furthermore, there are only three BSL-3/4 labs in Canada according to a list by the Federation of American Scientists<ref>http://www.fas.org/programs/bio/biosafetylevels.html</ref>. In fact, even that list is not up-to-date as I have just added one lab from Vietnam (setup in 2006) that does not even appear on it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:37, 3 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Orphaned references in ] == | |||
| == Some info about the Institute of Virology and Immunoprophylaxis (IVI) == | |||
| I check pages listed in ] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for ] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of ]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. | |||
| It is correct, that there are treated only animal diseases, but some are also dangerous for humans <br />(rabies, avian flu, porcine flu, etc...), therefore in some experiments suits are worn! | |||
| Please, somebody with a wiki-account, correct the info. | |||
| I don't have one, and I don't want to create one just for this. | |||
| <b>Reference named "feldman07":</b><ul> | |||
| Regards. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| <li>From ]: {{cite journal |doi=10.1086/520539 |title=Dedication: Jim Orzechowski (1944–2003) and Michael Kiley (1942–2004) |year=2007 |last1=Feldmann |first1=Heinz |last2=Geisbert |first2=Thomas |last3=Kawaoka |first3=Yoshihiro |last4=Johnson |first4=Karl M. |journal=The Journal of Infectious Diseases |volume=196 |pages=S127–S128 }}</li> | |||
| <li>From ]: {{cite journal |doi=10.1086/520539}}</li> | |||
| </ul> | |||
| I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. <small>Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs.</small> ]] 14:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Missing Level 3/4 Facility == | |||
| == AI upscaled image == | |||
| On the table, there is an entry to say a Level 4 facility is being built in the United Kingdom, but not where, nor who the owner of the building/land is currently. Most likely to be the DSTL or even QinetiQ, although the latter is highly unlikey. Perhaps a research university such as Oxford, Cambridge, Birmingham or perhaps Imperial College? | |||
| ] | |||
| == Hendra virus is NOT a BSL-3 pathogen == | |||
| It seems as if in 2022 user Fargoh replaced the image in this article with a version that was upscaled using AI, attributing it as "Improvement of quality and resolution". The upscaled version features some artifacts telling of neural network-generated and "improved" imagery. Is there any reason for the higher resolution version to be kept or should the change be reverted? ] (]) 08:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| It is a BSL-4 pathogen. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Listing BSL-3 Sites
Surely it is a fool's errand to include a list of BLS-3 labs, given that the start of this section indicates that there are over 1000 in the US alone. Why not make the list of facilities only those with BSL-4 facilities? This would be an actually possible task and would may resolve the factual inaccuracy complaint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.51.113 (talk • contribs) 2012-08-24T14:29:56
I agree. This list would go on forever. BSL-3 labs are much too common to list. Artur The Third (talk) 12:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree too. After the COVID pandemic there was a boom of BLS-2 labs upgrading to BLS-3 in Brazil, it doesn't seem to make much sense to list it all. —Arthurfragoso (talk) 01:55, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Plagiarism in the Safety Concerns section
This section had blatant plagiarism. We cannot directly copy/paste what a report says like that. We must, instead, summarize and paraphrase. And where we quote, we must use quotation marks, and restrict ourselves to as little direct quotation as possible. Misplaced Pages is not simply a repository for quotes about stuff. An encyclopedia is much more than that. The relevant guideline is Misplaced Pages:Plagiarism.--Shibbolethink 21:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
New(ish) source and more
This is the most recent source I found about the number of high-containment biological laboratories (roughly meaning BSL-3 and BSL-4). It looks reliable, but mostly based on older sources that this article is already using (guess it can still be useful for finding other sources or filling up the BSL-4 list). The sentence about the USA Today report seems a bit misleading (in 2015 it was well known that there were far more than 200 BSL-3 facilities, their locaton/identity is what wasn't public or easy to find; here's the original artice, which may be a better source than the current one; the sentence about the GAO report also uses the verb "identify", but that's a number likely closer to the actual total number and the report doesn't disclose their location; the above linked more recent source uses 1,643, that looks like 1,362 with DSAT + 281 with APHIS, it's based on a slightly newer, but not much different GAO report, probably a lower estimate, not sure if some laboratories figure in both counts). Not sure what to do with this, so I'll just drop the links and leave eventual edits to other editors. 109.119.248.146 (talk) 21:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Biosafety level
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Biosafety level's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "feldman07":
- From Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health: Feldmann, Heinz; Geisbert, Thomas; Kawaoka, Yoshihiro; Johnson, Karl M. (2007). "Dedication: Jim Orzechowski (1944–2003) and Michael Kiley (1942–2004)". The Journal of Infectious Diseases. 196: S127–S128. doi:10.1086/520539.
- From National Microbiology Laboratory: . doi:10.1086/520539.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
AI upscaled image
It seems as if in 2022 user Fargoh replaced the image in this article with a version that was upscaled using AI, attributing it as "Improvement of quality and resolution". The upscaled version features some artifacts telling of neural network-generated and "improved" imagery. Is there any reason for the higher resolution version to be kept or should the change be reverted? Polinet68 (talk) 08:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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