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== Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2022 == == Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2023 ==


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Fran Blanche is not in the list as a transgender person. ] (]) 02:16, 29 August 2022 (UTC) Remove list of detransitioned people from contents since the section has been removed ] (]) 00:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] is not a person. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 02:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC) :{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> ] <span style="color:#f535aa">(] • ])</span>''' 00:49, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
::{{replyto|FlightTime}} Um, what did you mean by {{tq|Fran Blanche is not a person}}? Did you mean to say she doesn't have her own Misplaced Pages article? ] (]) 02:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
:::{{re|Funcrunch}} Just going by the link I posted. If I'm wrong, my apologies. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 02:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
::::@] How much of the ] article did you read? There's a whole section on her, with citations. I also did a quick search and found her profiles on and . She appears to be a real person to me... ] (]) 02:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
:::::Well, then excuse me. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 03:02, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> – ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 19:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2022 == == Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2023 ==


{{Edit semi-protected|List of transgender people|answered=yes}} {{Edit semi-protected|List of transgender people|answered=yes}}
add me addie de vries thomson he/him/they to the list ] (]) 15:52, 17 November 2022 (UTC) Add 'Emmy Murphy'; https://en.wikipedia.org/Emmy_Murphy as a notable trans person and mathematician. ] (]) 07:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> &ndash;&nbsp;]<small><sup>&nbsp;]</sup>&nbsp;<sub>]</sub></small>&nbsp;(he/they) 15:52, 17 November 2022 (UTC) :] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 21:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2022 == == Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024 ==


{{edit semi-protected|List of transgender people|answered=yes}} {{edit semi-protected|List of transgender people|answered=yes}}
Add, Kate Lynn Blatt, won constitutional challenge to the ADA 2017
Change Nicole Louise Pierce to Nicole Louise Pearce ] (]) 13:24, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Blatt vs Cabela's retail inc ] (]) 22:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 19:14, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> Also, see ] ] (]) 22:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2023 ==

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Add death year of Michelle Suárez Bértora (2022) ] (]) 07:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

:{{done}} ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 16:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2023 (2) ==

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Add occupation of Chen Lili (singer, model, actress) ] (]) 07:51, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
:{{partly done|Partly done:}}<!-- Template:ESp --> added ''model''. Can you provide ] for the other two occupations? ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2023 (3) ==

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I noticed many small things to add so I'll stop making seperate requests before there are like 10 of them:
* Add nationality to Mary Elizabeth Clark (American)
* Add "transgender activist" to occupations of Lynn Conway
* Add death year for Kate Craig-Wood (2020)
* Correct birth year of Vicky de Lambray to 1950 and ''death'' year to 1986
* Add death year to Dorce Gamalama (2022) ] (]) 10:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
: 1. {{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->: supported by included source. ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:17, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
: 2. {{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->: using new source. ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:23, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
: 3. {{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->: using new source. ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:26, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
: 4. {{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->: simple error. ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:29, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
: 5. {{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->: using new source. ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:33, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
: Thank you for your suggestions. Please provide specific sources next time. ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 17:34, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
::Everything was from each person's respective Misplaced Pages page, didn't realise I still had to cite sources, my bad ] (]) 09:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2023 ==

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Charlie newbolt, Endocrinologist, 2001 - 2023 Shot to death ] (]) 19:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> no Misplaced Pages page. --<span style="background-color: indigo;">]<span style="color: yellow"> ⋆</span>]])</span> 22:48, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2023 ==

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'''All source are citations from the person's Misplaced Pages page'''

Thanks so much btw <3

* Add death year for Jeffery Catherine Jones (2011), source: https://web.archive.org/web/20121005010513/http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32407
* Add death year for Bambi Lake (2020), source: https://48hills.org/2020/11/remembering-bambi-lake-a-san-francisco-underground-icon/
* Add death year for Lily McBeth (2014), source: https://eu.dailyrecord.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2014/09/30/lily-mcbeth-nj-transgender-teacher-dead/16473039/
* Add death year to Leslie Elaine Perez (2005), source: https://www.houstonlgbthistory.org/misc-perez.html
* Add death year of Stu Rasmussen (2021), source: https://eu.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2021/11/21/silverton-oregon-first-openly-transgender-mayor-stu-rasmussen-dies-cancer/8711451002/
* Add death year fro Monica Roberts (2020), source: https://web.archive.org/web/20201010151018/https://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/features/article/Monica-Roberts-a-towering-advocate-for-15632154.php
* Add nationality to Amanda Simpson (American), source (that she was born in the US): https://archive.ph/20121230231643/http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/obama-appoints-sex-change-woman-to-top-security-job/story-e6frf7jx-1225816422931
* Add nationailty for Misty Snow (American), source (that she is in American politics): https://web.archive.org/web/20170915133546/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/misty-k-snow-transgender_us_577fd846e4b01edea78dad24
* Remove duplicate entry for Michelle Suárez Bértora (the one without her death year ;))
* Remove duplicate entry for Demoria Elise Williams (Kornbread Jeté)
* Add ] to list, source: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/11/actor-ezra-miller-says-doesnt-identify-man-woman/
* Possibly add ] to list as he uses he/they, source: https://twitter.com/gerardway/status/607733754015006720 ] (]) 10:51, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

: {{done}} ] (]) 20:43, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

== Submission ==

Has anyone heard of the actress “Shauna Brooks” ? ] (]) 09:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

:Yeah; added to list. --<span style="background-color: indigo;">]<span style="color: yellow"> ⋆</span>]])</span> 14:33, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

== Non-binary = Transgender? ==

? As far as I know, transgender is not the same as Non-binary, and the name of the article is LIst of transgender people, not list of transgender or non-binary people. ] (]) 23:45, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

:Please allow me to quote the very first paragraph of the article ]:
:{{tq|"Non-binary and genderqueer are umbrella terms for gender identities that are not solely male or female (identities outside the gender binary). '''Non-binary identities fall under the transgender umbrella''', since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from their assigned sex, though some non-binary people do not consider themselves transgender."}} (Emphasis mine)
:Multiple non-binary people are already listed in the article and your insistence on removing one specific person is inexplicable to me. As I see it, including non-binary people here is completely uncontroversial. The only reason to avoid it would be in the specific cases of individual non-binary people who do not consider themselves to be trans. We do not want to apply a label that the subject explicitly rejects.
:So... What is the problem here? Why is that one entry different from the others? ] (]) 15:45, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
::It was one entry that I saw. I did . As far as I can tell from the quote, non-binary is not the same as transgender, not withstanding the fact that the line separating the two is somewhat blurred. In my opinion, unless someone unambiguiously identifies as transgendender, they should not be listed in an article called "list of transgender people". That is, unless, we rename the article to list of transgender and non-binary people. --] (]) 20:44, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
:::I think that both the article I quoted and simple logic make it clear that a non-binary person is generally considered transgender by default. They were assigned one gender at birth and now they live as a different gender. They have made a transition. As such, being non-binary people is considered to be a type of transgender. It's not the same as being a trans man or a trans woman but they are still trans. Of course, nobody is obliged to embrace that label, and we should not include people here if they have said that they do not, but ''by default'' a non-binary person is eligible for inclusion here assuming that they meet the other inclusion criteria. ] (]) 21:21, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
::::As expressed in the part of the quote you chose not to put in bold, there are a substantial number of people who identify as non-binary but who would not identify as transgender, if asked: they have rejected gender as a category, rather than adopting a different one. In other words, rather than being a "third" gender, they don't accept the premise of the question. The question at hand is whether we assume non-binary people are transgender ''unless they object'', or only include non-binary people who also ''affirmatively identify'' as transgender. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:43, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</small>
:Unless we want to merge this article with ] and rename it, per ] I think we have to only include people for which there is sourcing where the person explicitly identifies themselves as transgender. I understand the argument that non-binary identities falls under the trans category, and there's a lot of overlap, but since the terms aren't synonymous, and a lot of non-binary people don't identify as transgender, I don't we can use sources that say the person is non-binary to say they are trans. ] (]) 02:20, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
::Good point for exclusion. I was not aware of the existence of ].
::We need to scrub this list of all non-transgender people whose inclusion is based solely on their gender non-binary. ] (]) 05:51, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
:::I very strongly disagree. This is beginning to sound like a grudge against non-binary people and I am this close to handing out warning templates for blanking. This needs to stop now! We are not getting into some weird hierarchical bullshit where binary trans people are treated as more "real" than non-binary ones. This is a list of transgender people not a list of only binary transgender people. That is made clear in the introduction. ] (]) 03:11, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

''Note: I have notified ] about this dispute and invited people there to give their opinions. ] (]) 03:22, 8 May 2023 (UTC)''

== "Detransition" section ==

This list is supposed to be about transgender people, and I don't see the point of including those who ''don't'' identify as trans. Consensus to remove section? I get that he used to identify as trans, but considering how there is only one person currently in this section and how it doesn't fulfill the purpose of the article... <span style="background-color: indigo;">(''']''' ]])</span> 01:44, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

:Yeah. I think that's a no-brainer. I've done it. ] (]) 03:08, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
:In future, I think detransitioners should just be removed from the list. It is very unlikely that any detransitioner would want to be included here. Conceivably they could be listed separately somewhere else although I think having a category for them might be sufficient. ] (]) 03:25, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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Remove list of detransitioned people from contents since the section has been removed SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:49, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

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Add 'Emmy Murphy'; https://en.wikipedia.org/Emmy_Murphy as a notable trans person and mathematician. Wikipediussy (talk) 07:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 21:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

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Add, Kate Lynn Blatt, won constitutional challenge to the ADA 2017 Blatt vs Cabela's retail inc 2601:985:4401:FC0:ECE9:FD22:1359:EC62 (talk) 22:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

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