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== Ultumately Western Europeans and especially Britons are also Hispanic or Iberian. == |
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== Are Dutch and Belgians "Hispanic"? == |
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Because they belonged to the Spanish Empire about the same time most Spanish American colonies did, and following Anglo's logic, they should be called Hispanics as well. |
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This fact is already well known since the advent of genetic research. These so-called anglos are Hispanic too. |
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--] (]) 19:34, 24 October 2018 (UTC) |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQHX_MwhN80 |
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:Please provide a reliable source that they are considered hispanic. ] 20:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC) |
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Ignorance is so incredible. Goob. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:: The poster was arguing from logical consistency, not from a source. ] (]) 20:13, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:You've posted almost identical topics to ], ], ] and ]. As per ], please limit the thread to one talk page (I suggest ] as it is the most relevant) to avoid fragmentation of the discussion. ] ] 08:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== Brazilians == |
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::Please don't feed the troll. ] (]) 21:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC) |
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"Brazilians may identify as Latin-Americans, but refute being considered Latinos or Hispanics" - What is the basis for this claim (It's contrary to what one Brazilian-Jew says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm521AmMLX8 ca. 53.:30.) ] (]) 20:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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Yeah, let us kill the messenger!. Gooffy. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Proposal: deletion of the entire "Spanish-speaking countries and regions section" == |
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:::Aaah, the cute Y Chromosome, such a good marker of invasions, population changes, founding effects and shared origins. Nice to see that WASPs and Mexicans use to share the ''Western European'' R1b Y-ADN haplogroup. The former because of the Thirteen Colonies. The latter because of the handsome and virile Spanish Conquistadors. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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A list of this is already on the ] article. Notably, I am also questioning the relevance of the ethnic/racial demographics included in the section. Some parts like the whole FS of Micronesia stuff is even less relevant and belongs in an article covering the influence of the Spanish Empire or whatever. As a reminder, the article is supposed to address "people, cultures, or countries" dealt with by the term "Hispanic". |
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==Proper classification: Hispanic as a cultural heritage is more accurate== |
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Being that this talk page is obviously not very active, I'll wait a while if anyone wants to give any input. If no one objects or no one bothers to respond, I'll do the big chop. ] (]) 09:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC) |
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An ethonym doesn't sound right. Since we mention the US' definition, we need to classify it with a term that's just as vague and broad as their definition and includes all kinds of people--not just those of certain ethnicities like 'ethnonym' means. Ties to a Spanish-speaking country (with ties meaning anything like lineage, birth, culture, and language to name a few) doesn't describe an ethnonym because it doesn't group ethnicities. Classifying 'Hispanic' as a cultural heritage or lingual heritage better suits the US definition. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</small> |
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:'''Update:''' I'm going to do it now. ] (]) 22:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Are Dutch and Belgians "Hispanic"? == |
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Because they belonged to the Spanish Empire about the same time most Spanish American colonies did, and following Anglo's logic, they should be called Hispanics as well. |
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== Inclusion of ethnic designation in lead == |
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@] You and I have a dispute over an edit I made to the article: |
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:Please provide a reliable source that they are considered hispanic. ] 20:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC) |
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''In some contexts, ], "Hispanic" is used as an ] or ] term.'' |
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:: The poster was arguing from logical consistency, not from a source. ] (]) 20:13, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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In order to avoid an edit war, I am going by what the community recommends and bringing the dispute to the talk page, so we can settle this reasonably. ] (]) 03:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Brazilians == |
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== Parallel designations == |
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"Brazilians may identify as Latin-Americans, but refute being considered Latinos or Hispanics" - What is the basis for this claim (It's contrary to what one Brazilian-Jew says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm521AmMLX8 ca. 53.:30.) ] (]) 20:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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Hello, |
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to use the word precedence case basic to the United States I would like to know: which words corresponding to Hispanic do exist? ] (]) 22:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC) |
Because they belonged to the Spanish Empire about the same time most Spanish American colonies did, and following Anglo's logic, they should be called Hispanics as well.
In order to avoid an edit war, I am going by what the community recommends and bringing the dispute to the talk page, so we can settle this reasonably. Evaporation123 (talk) 03:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
to use the word precedence case basic to the United States I would like to know: which words corresponding to Hispanic do exist? Sarcelles (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)