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Please see Talk:Bed_and_breakfast#External links.

Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 16:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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I've responded to you on Talk:Bed_and_breakfast#External links.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Gaimhreadhan 13:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Misplaced Pages, as you did in Bed and Breakfast. Misplaced Pages is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Misplaced Pages. Thank you. Mwanner | Talk 14:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe that we have already reached a modus vivendi over on your own talk page at Talk, Sir.

If I am wrong,it is rather academic since my request for page protection has now been acceded to (albeit with your version of Bed and breakfast without any external links whatsoever) since you serially reverted my edits (as did I yours and in ignorance of 3RR) after I made my request for temporary protection of only three external links (wry grin).

Nevertheless I do not wish your implied slur on my character to stand unchallenged on my talk page.

I will, therefore, rebut your allegations again here with a paraphrasing of what I wrote (rather more intemperately) there:

Removing external links

Please do not simply delete appropriate external links in Misplaced Pages, as has been done in Bed and Breakfast.

Please first discuss in the Discussion page of Bed and Breakfast why you think the specific links you personally have scheduled for removal (especially if you intend to delete all and any external links) do not conform to particular guidelines.

If you are a seasoned and valued contributor to Misplaced Pages you should know that it is better to reach a consensus before deleting material willy nilly.

For the avoidance of doubt I wish to clarify again that the two links I have added (one to DMOZ and one to privatestay.com) do not turn the Misplaced Pages Bed and Breakfast article into a mere directory of links and nor do I intend them for for advertising or self promotion and I find it offensive that some contributors persistently ignore my clarifications in this respect.

I believe that there is a policy that one should assume good faith.

The two links I added are NOT inappropriate links and are NOT links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which I am affiliated, or links that exist only to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guidelines and for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate.

If you feel a particular link should be deleted from the article, then please discuss that specific link (rather than links in general) on the article's Discussion page rather than spoiling other's efforts unilaterally. See the welcome page to learn more about Misplaced Pages. Thank you. Gaimhreadhan 00:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

South Island independence

I don't have a problem with a link to any genuine SI independence movement. I do question whether the link you have readded represents such. The image of a woman's bouncing breasts on the website makes it clear that this is someone's idea of a joke. The other images fail to dispel that impression. I think the whole page, if not a prank, is an advertisement for a book publisher. Please actually look at the website before readding.-gadfium 01:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Your advice to look at a site before you jump to conclusions is appropriate, Gadfium, and one I always try to practice (especially in my professional life).

This is a multiple page site that has had a lot of effort expended on it. The jokes may not be to your taste or mine but it is NOT a pornographic or joke site.

If you actually read the text you will see that the bouncing breasts draw attention to the news item that women in Nelson (in the South Island) have the biggest breasts - not the clincher in a political argument, I agree, but please also look at the economic and health arguments for independence this site advances befoer you condemn it as being without merit - there are at least 4 separate pages you need to thoroughly read...

Gaimhreadhan 02:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I did read that. I don't consider it authoritative. I also don't consider the website as evidence that a modern South Island independence movement exists. I think this is someone with a strange sense of humour and too much time on their hands. I'll suggest that more people consider the matter by asking at the Misplaced Pages:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board.-gadfium 05:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not just insert the same links into a different article when there is clear consensus against them in the South Island Independence article. This is disruptive behaviour. If you think you have any case, please continue to discuss it at the talk page of that article. I also suggest you read WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF.-gadfium 18:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Gadfium, as an administrator yourself, you should know that the talk pages of separate articles are not linked.

• I do not necessarily concede that a consensus was reached. A vote does not necessarily imply a consensus. (I think we're just beginning to realise that here in Ireland after a long and bloody millenium...)
• Even if a consensus had been reached, that consensus was not necessarily binding on a different article's contents. Please play fair and according to the rules....Gaimhreadhan • 18:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

United Kingdom

Purpose of your recent edit on United Kingdom

Hi, can you explain why you used the comment added "and member of the Security Council of the United Nations" on your recent edit on United Kingdom? Your edit appears to be wholly unrelated to the comment. Superficially it appears to be a case of vandalism with a bluffed a countrycomment line to attempt to mask this. Do you have any comments on this? Thanks. MarkThomas 14:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

G'Day, Mark.

Appearances can be deceptive. I added "and member of the Security Council of the United Nations" because it is a factually correct and relevant statement. Why do you think it is not appropriate in the starting paragraph of the United Kingdom article?

I take the strongest possible exception to your allegation of vandalism. Please withdraw it.

I think you may be really referring to my excision of the incorrect categorisation of the UK as a single country. As its very title makes clear, the United Kingdom is a Union of countries (UK is a state composed of separate countries - NOT a single country with a unitary culture, banknotes or stamps and the previous reference (No 10's site) offered no support whatever for the contrary viewpoint!)Gaimhreadhan 15:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Was this your ::edit on United Kingdom? MarkThomas 17:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Sir, I believe it was. Some of my reasoning is expounded here and on the article's talk page. If you have a problem with the idea that the UK is (paradoxically or not) a country made up of distinct and ancient countries and a nation made up of distinct and ancient nations, then I would prefer that discussion takes place on that talk page rather than my talk page. Thanks for your anticipated co-operation in this matter...Gaimhreadhan • 18:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair comment, actually, reviewing the edits, I apologise as I think I was getting a bit confused in the thick of it as to what edit you actually made! MarkThomas 18:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Imperial `peace keeping' (grin)

LOL! Was that a blue UN NPOV helmet Gaimhreadhan or a green one? :-) Anyway, you miss-spelled archipeligos. I think! Does it have an "e" in the end when it's plural? MarkThomas 17:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It's basically UN standard issue light blue (the irish Quartermasters haven't got any other colour left apart from the navy blue ones they got gifted by Securicor for escorting the money trucks) but with a kind of weird green (fungus growth) striped effect due to the number of years since I was last in uniform (wry smile).

I think you can have either spelling for the plural but the usage I've deployed is more usual in my neck of the woods (not too many Greeks in South Armagh and County Louth...Gaimhreadhan • 17:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

If I was in the UN, I would demand pale purple. :-) I have to admit, you are more knowledgeable on Britain's overseas "posessions" than I am - never even heard of "BIOT" - sounds like a yoghurt. All goes to increase my respect for the nationalist and republican traditions. MarkThomas 17:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes I used to be quite creative in my use of jurisdictions for some law suits. Scotland still has an extant law of promise (which neither of the Irish, nor any of the other British jurisdictions still have) which I've used to successfully sue such entities as HMG and BP when they pleaded `no contract' due to `lack of consideration'.

BIOT is an acronym for British Indian Ocean Territories. You might know the largest atoll, Diego Garcia.

...Gaimhreadhan • 18:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Operation

How are you today Gaimhreadhan? I have been following your contributions of late, because I enjoy them. You make Misplaced Pages a more entertaining place. MarkThomas 11:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

That's very kind and thoughtful of you to enquire, Sir. I'm quite lucky in that the oncology centre now has wireless access. However, it's a two edged sword 'cos the web can get quite addictive and it's not ideal in bed with your legs outstretched - I tend to get lower back pain.

Enjoy the spring sunshine that I can see outside!...Gaimhreadhan • 11:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Your new Cat

I dont like the name of your new Category - its sounds unsuited and POV - have another other suggestions - maybe IRA Operations.--Vintagekits 18:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it is short and factual. We already have a categories for incidents where no loss of human life occurred such as

However, I think it appropriate that any further discussion take place at Category_talk:IRA_killings where I have taken the liberty of reproducing your introductory comment above and this my response....Gaimhreadhan • 19:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Stop canvassing!

I am not impressed by your behaviour over the past few hours - we can all carry on like this and canvas a group but we do not - please read - WP:CANVAS--Vintagekits 19:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• Provisional IRA actions