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| I reinstated this wikilink at ], with the needs of the project's international readership in mind, but the 'bot countermanded me. I think that acre should be linked ''wherever'' it appears, but I'm only concerned with being reverted at this page just now. I have a ''very'' vague recollection that 'bots weren't supposed to revert real editors, but I may be wrong on this. --] (]) 09:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
| *Whilst I might be inclined to agree with you that a link to this rather 'parochial' unit may be desirable as a word that is not universally well known, the fact that the bot inserts {{tl|convert}} template, which gives other alternative measurements (e.g. hectares or sq km) means that it is unlikely to be misunderstood as something else. Linking would appear to be superfluous. --<small>] ]</small> 10:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Feel like doing some units standardization work at ] again? I updated the article today to add the findings of a seismic survey at a drilling license. There're also some figures that use superscripts that don't look right, but I'm not sure what the convention is.—] (]) 10:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm sorry you got reverted. Some mass fixes of technical issues are one-off, or very rare and are therefore unlikely to do that. Tackling units of measure is a janitorial job that has to go on all the time so it's unfortunately more likely. I think the consensus is that a link is less necessary in the presence of a conversion than without. That doesn't mean a link shouldn't be present at all. Just so we're clear, can you confirm that you want 'acre' to be linked always, with and without conversions? ] (]) 10:08, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for the prompt response. Yes, my point was that it's sufficiently obscure to merit a link, and no, it's silly if I'm advocating an exception for just one page. On reflection I'm suggesting that ] should keep its link on all pages. --] (]) 10:26, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| I don't think the word 'acre' is obscure. It's actually a fairly common word in English texts. However, I definitely think it's difficult for metric readers to visualise in the absence of a conversion. That's why I think 'acre' should always have a conversion. We know from web statistics that low-added-value links don't get clicks. A link to 'acre' in that article is one of the lowest value links it has. I'm fairly sure it won't get clicked. However, I've updated the article to give acre a link. I'll have a think about what to do next with the bot based on your welcome feedback. ] (]) 10:53, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
| I do not understand . As far as I know, unlike for "]", "degree" is part of the unit name ("]"). --] 11:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| I question the benefit of using {{tl|convert}} to do dynamic conversion of (e.g.) km to miles (as you have done in various articles), especially where the equvialent has already been provided. Such conversions need to be done only once, not every time an article is generated. And if an editor feels a "round" number is appropriate then you should not be unilaterally replacing it without ''prior'' discussion. – ] (]) 22:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi. Arbitrators have been that people use this instead of Ohconfucius' script, but it looks from the path as if it only works on monobook. Any comment? --] (]) 09:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :I note the comment: ''"conversions need to be done only once, not every time an article is generated''". Is that the source of your unhappiness with templates? ] (]) 00:03, 5 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| :My watchlist is full of these diffs, as far as I can tell you're simply doing a mass rollout of the {{tl|convert}} template under a deceptive edit summary. I'm blocking. ] 00:06, 5 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Hey, that's unreasonable. There's no evidence that I'm trying to deceive you or anyone else. You haven't provided a reason why the edits are harmful and yet I've explained why they're helpful. You've made multiple assertions and instead of a two-way debate, you reach for your gun. A thirty minute cycle from asking a question to pulling the trigger. Shame on you! ] (]) 00:16, 5 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::I blocked a malfunctioning bot account. Bot accounts have no claim on my civility. Nor has blocking a bot account any impact on my ability to engage in discussion. ] 00:23, 5 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| :::Sorry for butting in. A note to Lightmouse: templates do overload long articles due to the wikimedia parsing limits, and substituting them with plain text does speed up loading (experimentally verified). ] (]) 00:58, 5 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Modiin Energy
Feel like doing some units standardization work at Modiin Energy again? I updated the article today to add the findings of a seismic survey at a drilling license. There're also some figures that use superscripts that don't look right, but I'm not sure what the convention is.—Biosketch (talk) 10:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
(degrees) Celsius
I do not understand this Lightbot edit. As far as I know, unlike for "kelvin", "degree" is part of the unit name ("degree Celsius"). --Lambiam 11:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
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Season's tidings!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:30, 25 December 2011 (UTC).
Repetition
Lightbot's user page says not to leave messages on his talkpage (but on yours instead) twice. It only needs to say it once. Pdiddyjr (talk) 19:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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Notice of move request
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Hi. Arbitrators have been suggesting that people use this instead of Ohconfucius' script, but it looks from the path as if it only works on monobook. Any comment? --Mirokado (talk) 09:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Season's tidings!
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Template talk:Height
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please, dont add convert template to the urls
About your AWB edit: Strategic Petroleum Reserve (United States) diff 392798962 15:09, 25 October 2010 "Mostly units using AWB (7290)". Text before edit:
Strategic Petroleum Reserve Plan Expansion To One Billion Barrels Submitted To Congress (Page 5), United States Department of Energy</ref>.
Text after edit with incorrect URL:
billion barrels (160×10^m).pdf Strategic Petroleum Reserve Plan Expansion To One Billion Barrels Submitted To Congress (Page 5), United States Department of Energy</ref>
I think we should not change units inside the URLs. Does current version of AWD convert it? Should we report bug to AWB developers? `a5b (talk) 08:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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