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== Rasa-Lila == | |||
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Can we work on this lead sentence? | |||
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"The '''Rasa lila''' or '''Rasa dance''' is a dance included in the traditional story of Krishna, as described in the religious texts of ]." | |||
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I had "The ''']-]''', also known as the '''“] dance”''' and as the '''“Dance of Love”''', is a ] of ]..." | |||
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I like using the ], based on the way I read stuff on the Internet- I skim and I rarely read articles all the way through. | |||
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But really, based on ], I think that we should change the first sentence. We're looking for "the shortest possible relevant characterization of the subject." In my opinion, "pastime of Krishna" is this. That is what it is. If you don't know what a pastime is, you can't understand what it is. It's like "The Ford Thunderbird is a car manufactured in the United States by the Ford Motor Company.", "The ''']-]''' is a ] of ]." It is not fundamentally a dance, it is fundamentally a pastime. And I'm not just speaking from and ISKCON perspective, am I? And all of this kowtowing to "Krishna is a mythological figure in stories". I'm not saying he isn't. What I'm saying is that we don't need to bend our backs saying again and again that it is a story only. I think it's fine to say that it's a pastime, because if you don't think pastimes are real then you don't have to believe it's real, but you do have to believe that it's a pastime. Do you agree with this? All I'm saying is that "pastime" is a more specific, descriptive word for what the rasa-lila is considered to be than "dance" or "story". And that's how WP is cool, you know, you say "Hmm, it's a pastime? Hmm, what's a pastime? Oh, that's what a pastime is". It's like the article for some sports car should say "the such-and-so car is a ]" rather than "the such-and-so car is a ]." It's just more precise than "dance" or "story"- it doesn't make it opinionated, does it? But really, I don't know why I'm writing this, if I were you I don't think I'd change my opinion because somebody wrote this, so I am also going to go do something else. | |||
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Also, for the same reason that is better to be more defined, as defined as possible, "Bhagavat purana and gita-govinda" is better than "the religious texts of Hinduism" . (Did you notice that I didn't put "Srimad Bhagavatam"? Hahaha, I know how to behave in the material word of WP, hahaha.) | |||
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The SB quote is actually found at the end of the chapter on Rasa-lila- it is in reference to it. Ys, ] (]) 02:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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I suppose you're right, and there was no reason for it to be there. So, according to Prabhupad you can put on a performance of pastimes like in Ramayana performances- but then you can't even think or dream about ''imitating'' pastimes. It is a little confusing to me and I interpreted it that performing it was bad when I read the chapter on Rasa-Lila in the Krishna book, but now I realize that Prabhupad is OK with putting on the Ramayana and stuff, but it seems that that would be thinking about imitating it. Do you know the significance of the term "imitating" to Prabhupad? Ys, ] (]) 18:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== Articles related to Hinduism == | |||
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::Since the article has stabilised and I have added proper references as well as provided a NPOVs references, I suggest final edits by the editors who were contributing to the article. Following the general proofing and copyedit, I would suggest nominating it towards GA (Good Article). <span style="font-family:Tahoma;">]]]</span> 14:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
<blockquote>Please speedy delete in order to create space for a technical page move to this title. Thank you! पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 08:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)</blockquote> | |||
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I defined it as correctly as I remembered. Long ago I was very interested in ] and what he meant by "transmigration of the soul". I received help from an Origen scholar at the Catholic University of America. ] (]) 01:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
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I see you have an interest in Krishna. I enjoy seeking the first version of heroic tales. Just because they are the earliest version does not mean they are true. You are probably familiar with the textual evidence that indicates the ] is the earliest surviving text that tells of Jesus' life. The other gospels expand and modify the story making it more grandiose and in line with later Christian theology. Supposedly the Gospel of Mark was not warmly received in Rome and almost disappeared. The Legend of Krishna by Nigel Frith presents the early (earliest?) version of the life of Krishna. It is rough, erotic, and delightful. I have read it many times when I get the blues. It always cheers me up. Frith is a master story teller. His goal is to entrance the reader like the oral story tellers of old. Be warned this is not the glorified politically correct Krishna of the passing years and today. Some people find the early (earliest?) version disgusting. Frith lovingly dedicates this passionate love story to his parents. Willing to take a chance? ] (]) 12:53, | |||
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The Other amazon review- Sharp was unprepared for the eroticism of India. Obviously Sharp had never met and talked with an educated person from India. Why the hell would you want to do that? Learn something first hand from a distant culture? I was delighted with what I learned from my Singh, Hindu and (even a Zoroastrian!) friends. | |||
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Basically, Frith took the 10th canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam and turned into a childish fairy tell. He places many limitations on Krishna, saying the reason he didn't know he was a "god" (more like "<b>The</b>" God) because a demigod slipped him a memory altering potion. No. Krishna did not know He was God because he willingly placed himself under the potency of Yogamaya to enjoy his childhood Pastimes, no other reason. | |||
They try to make this into a stupid legend like Hercules. Imagine if Nigel Frith wrote a book "The Legend of Jesus" where the only reason why he was raising people from the dead was because one of his Jewish friends slipped him a magical potion. Would this not be a travesty? This is no different. (I wonder if Sharp ever read the Gospel of Mark? Only Mark counts the possessed swine; there are about TWO THOUSAND of these porkies possessed by the demons from ONE person! Wow! Mark 5:13) | |||
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In addition, in the end of the book, it portrays Krishna as engaging in activities -- that were VERY inappropriate. Like Frith wanted to write a porn story or something. I found this extremely inappropriate! Frith totally fabricated some of these stories and activities of Krishna, and as such, has created great offense to Vaishnavas everywhere. The only pro is that this book is out of print. Well, so it goes... ] (]) 18:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
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