| Revision as of 10:53, 23 June 2024 editExplodingCabbage (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users673 edits →Reverted edits to List of fatal dog attacks in the United Kingdom: ReplyTags: Reverted Reply← Previous edit | Revision as of 13:13, 23 June 2024 edit undoFlightTime (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, File movers, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers, Template editors157,390 edits Ahh, hell no, don't come here with your POV wall of textTag: Manual revertNext edit → | ||
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| == Reverted edits to List of fatal dog attacks in the United Kingdom == | |||
| Your edit summary at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom&oldid=1230463057 claims that my edits you were reverting consisted of "Unsourced date changesand other apparetly OR FROM A DISRUPTIVE USER". Not only is this false, but every edit you reverted consisted of me implementing changes proposed by others on the article's Talk page. In addition, you've reintroduced material sourced solely from the Daily Mail, which just seems crazily counterproductive given that the thing our beef started over was your objection to Daily Mail citations in that article. | |||
| Going one reverted edit at a time: | |||
| * https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom&oldid=1230388447 - eliminates a Daily Mail citation and replaces it with a non-deprecated source. Note the linked Talk page discussion in which I observe that, although some entire paragraphs of the Mirror article appear to be close paraphrases of paragraphs from the Daily Mail article, which had initially led me to dismiss it as merely plagiarised from the Mail, there are also inquest quotes in the Mirror article that are ''not'' included in the Mail article - so clearly it is at least not ''purely'' plagiarised from the Mail. (Perhaps it isn't at all and both papers just close-paraphrased content from the same press release.) | |||
| * https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom&oldid=1230390472 replaces a Daily Mail article citation with a citation of a BBC News article that provides a similar (but not identical) account of the facts about how the dog was kept and treated and the mental impact of those conditions. It also rewrites the section about the dog's conditions to reflect the account in the new source rather than the Daily Mail, and then - because that makes those sentences a bit longer - splits the section into two paragraphs and tightens up the prose a bit. Note that removing facts that were only sourced from the Daily Mail was the unanimous consensus of users who discussed what to do about the Daily Mail citations on the article's Talk page, and these two edits implemented that consensus. | |||
| The next three edits begin to implement @]'s ] to include both the date of attack and victim's date of death (where distinct) in the Date column and to mark the date of death with a dagger symbol, following precedent at https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks#Fatalities_in_France. All of the dates added are corroborated by already-cited sources: | |||
| * https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1230417203 adds Damian Holden's date of death as 21 September 2009, as stated in https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/92337/html/, https://www.knutsfordguardian.co.uk/news/9031890.Father_died_after_very_rare_reaction_to_dog_bite/, and https://www.crewechronicle.co.uk/news/local-news/holmes-chapel-man-died-infection-5608636, all three of which were already cited. | |||
| * https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=next&oldid=1230417203 adds William George's date of attack as 9th October. This is the only one where citations are kind of weak (and I'll add more), but even here the date nonetheless ''is'' corroborated by cited sources. The cited Mirror article states that he died on 16th October "a week" after the incident, and the RSPCA source at https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/92337/html/ which is cited elsewhere on the page specifically lists the attack date as 9th October. | |||
| * https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=next&oldid=1230417490 adds Derek Luckie's date of death, which is not only again corroborated by already-cited sources but was ''literally already stated in the "Circumstances" field of the same table row in the article''. | |||
| Since nothing here is OR or unsourced, I'm going to revert your revert. If you see a problem I'm missing, please ''explain'' what your issue is either here on the article Talk page instead of just making vague accusations in the edit summary. | |||
| I find it incredibly frustrating to have to spend an hour meticulously justifying my edit here just to avoid an unwarranted reversion of it. Minimally inspecting the cited sources for each of the modified table rows would've revealed to you that every single factual detail I added was specifically corroborated by a cited source. Glancing at the Talk page - which only has 9 sections, two of which can be immediately seen to be relevant to these edits based on their titles - would've immediately revealed that the edits I was making were implementing the suggestions of other editors. But instead of taking a few minutes to check whether anything you were accusing me of was true, you just reverted my edits and chucked a false accusation into the summary. ] (]) 10:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Oh, and one other thing - the classification of your revert as a "minor edit" was obviously inappropriate here. ] (]) 10:53, 23 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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